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Edited July 28, 2024Jul 28 by Severin

oh my just read about Russell being DQF!!!! didn't see that coming!

 

wish others like Sanz would have done the 1 stop strategy too

I was surprised Sainz didn't do it once it became obvious the hards were holding up well and maintaining pace.

 

Alonso and Stroll were the only others to do it and both effectively made it work, with Alonso only dropping a place (which was essentially Verstappen) and Stroll gained 3 positions by the end despite the car not being very competitive.

Most popular theory for Russell DSQ is that the extra tyre wear from going one stop equates to the 1.8Kg he was found to be underweight, which does actually make some sense given it was unplanned. Normally there's a good chance to pick up extra weight on the cool down lap but with Spa being so long, it doesn't have one and Russell was unable to do that. Mercedes hadn't run the hards in practice at all so had no information about how the re-laid surface was affecting the tyre deg, whereas Aston Martin, who also one stopped, had run them and so knew how much rubber they'd lose and pitted later as planned.

 

Basically, Russell's switch to a one stop and resulting win would probably have stood if he'd pitted 3 or 4 laps later.

Sainz has decided that he is bored of fighting for podiums and has decided to dedicate himself to being lapped by everyone else on the grid for the next couple of the years by joining Williams

Sainz to Williams confirmed. Took all this time to decide and still ended up at the second worst team.

They're not decidedly the second worst team though. It's only Sargeant's skill issues that are dragging the backwards like a massive anchor. If Sainz is equal to Albon (and he's probably better) they'd have more than double the points they have now and be in a big old tussle with Haas, Alpine and possibly RB.

This will be either one unsuccessful gamble or a unlikely driver move which works for Carlos Sainz.

And now we await the news that Perez will be dropped......

 

Was always gutted for Sainz the second he was confirmed as leaving Ferrari & with the limited options available. Will see if Williams can give him a car to challenge for points

Perez keeps his seat for the rest of the season.

oh no Sanz why not Audi!!! :/ seems like the beginning of the end for him sadly

Edited July 30, 2024Jul 30 by Bjork

Perez keeps his seat doe the rest of the season.

 

Red Bull to finish 4th in the constuctors? :lol:

Edited July 30, 2024Jul 30 by Dobbo

Red Bull to finish 4th in the constuctors? :lol:

 

Is it wrong that I kind of want this to happen?

 

(I am from Milton Keynes and my office is round the corner from Red Bull!)

Talking of wanting teams to do well/badly, it kind of sits weird with me and things have definitely changed around this since I first started following the sport. There never used to be much of a thing for following a specific team unless there was a particularly clear reason - the French might support Ligier for example, then later on Renault etc, Generally though, besides everyone wanting Ferrari to do well (everyone was a Ferrari fan at heart), not many stood behind a specific team. Drivers? Absolutely, (although there was never the silly, partisan extremes you see online now) everyone had a favourite driver and the discussions around what made one better or preferred to another were fascinating but not for teams. Almost never for teams. I don't think I ever knew anyone who was a Brabham, Leyton House, Shadow or Jordan fan, for example. Although I'll admit I was once very excited to see Mercedes return.

 

Then sometime in the 90s it started to become noticeable and teams began selling their own merch at races. Now you see whole reams of comments about peoples feeling towards a particular team. Good and bad.

 

It seems to me like it's down to the death of the garagistas, the decline of owner run teams and the works teams becoming far more corporate and having a brand identity to push.

 

Even the teams we have change their setup so wuickly that it's hard to see the current Williams, Mercedes or McLaren team as having any real connection to those from the 50s/70s/80s etc. Only Ferrrari and at a push McLaren seem to have a genuine connection back to their founders. So I guess I'm asking those on here who support a team, why and for what reason? Not judging just curious as it seems pretty alien to me.

the only team I like no matter what pilot they have is Ferrari, mainly cos I've lived in Italy and all. Then I always root for the teams that have my fav drivers like Sainz, so I guess I'll have to back Williams now.

I still can't figure out why Sainz picked Williams. he has no short term/long term future in there. At least with Audi there was the possibility of a long term future but in Williams?

So, for you it's like an extension of the driver you support? I can understand that.

 

I think the thing with pretty much everyone liking Ferrari is that they are so synonymous with F1 and racing in general. There's so much history there, it goes back to the 1920s and the only reason their road cars exist is to fund the racing team (originally at least, it's murkier now), the old man lived and breathed for racing and they've undoubtedly had a high number of the greatest drivers ever in their cars. How can anyone not love that? They are essentially a racing fans team.

 

As Enzo once said, “Ask a child to draw a car, and certainly he will draw it red.” There's a good reason for that.

I've always been a driver fan over a team fan dating back to Mika Hakkinen but will naturally have an affinity to whatever team they drive at the time.

 

I've actually never been much of a Ferrari fan (never liked Schumacher and all those team orders controversies in 2002/2010) and was not keen on Alonso nor Vettel when they drove there. So it will be a strange feeling finally supporting them next season courtesy of Sir Lewis.

 

If I had to pick a team it would be McLaren as they've housed most of my fave drivers through the years and have been the only British team capable of winning in donkey's years.

I see Alpine have appointed their 500th team principal.

I see Alpine have appointed their 500th team principal.

 

 

Must admit, I'm a little disappointed, as I thought it was my turn next

I'm still quite sceptical on the second part of this but I'm hearing a lot of talk about Adrian Newey having agreed terms with Aston Martin, set to be announced ater the summer break. Obviously, this isn't surprising at all as it was the most likely move from the beginning, besides retirement. However, now there's increasingly loud rumours of Vertsappen joining him there.

 

How that might play out would very interesting. Max will understandably want #1 status and yet would not be concerned about Lance but Fernando could be a dealbreaker as he'll rightly see it as his last chance for a title. That pairing would of course be incredible but it could be dynamite. I would love to see it play out. Two of the very best ever, one potentially at the height of his powers and king of the world versus the wily old master, with plenty of guile, a stackful of tricks up his sleeve and a serious point to prove.

 

And if Alonso is the casualty, despite their shared history, Mercedes arguably becomes his and their best option in terms of driver ability.

 

Where would that leave Red Bull though? I'm guessing Ricciardo would be the natural fit alongside Perez (mainly for financial reasons) or preferably Lawson, with Tsunoda and one other at RB. Alonso of course could wind up alongside either Perez, Ricciardo or Lawson at Red Bull

Edited August 7, 2024Aug 7 by Severin