I reckon had this power been there earlier on when there was more players, it might have made things a bit more exciting in some respects.

 

But as there's so few left and as things stand, all Jake and Leanne need to do is eliminate the people with heat to win the money - Alexander and now Charlotte too. And then they'll probably be 50/50 on weather to keep Frankie or not and eliminate her to be on the safe side

I can’t see them four trusting each other fully but I can’t imagine Alexander turning against Frankie so it’ll be messy. Frankie and Alexander surely will get the money possibly with Jake but they’ll all be paranoid because they won’t know if Charlotte really was. So it’s possible Jake and leanne win as I’m sure Leanne will say she can’t trust Alexander and Jake will go with her

I can’t see them four trusting each other fully but I can’t imagine Alexander turning against Frankie so it’ll be messy. Frankie and Alexander surely will get the money possibly with Jake but they’ll all be paranoid because they won’t know if Charlotte really was. So it’s possible Jake and leanne win as I’m sure Leanne will say she can’t trust Alexander and Jake will go with her

 

I imagine they’ll get rid of Charlotte. Then vote not to end the game. Banish Alexander.

 

Then it’ll be weather or not Jake and Leanne decide to banish Frankie or not.

 

Saying that I think a lot of heat has probably gone off Alexander due to Freddie being a Traitor. But at the end game they kinda have to trust 100%. Frankie’s fate will probably be down to how good Charlotte is at deflecting

As delightful as it was seeing Charlotte's plan play out beautifully, I did sense she might have been flying too close to the sun as Freddie's vote for her could've doomed her even before the seer. Still, will certainly be interesting to see if she can somehow pull a blinder here x

Och I do feel bad for Freddie, as much as I like Charlotte, after this episode I'd rather see the faithfuls (specifically Frankie and Leanne) win

 

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Freddie really f***ed it for himself with that Minah lie, it really caught up on him. Poor bean.

 

Ooooooooh at that twist :o I wouldn't mind seeing Frankie win it, I really like her a lot! She has that "nice teacher at school" type of vibe and personality.

I actually feel so bad for Freddie, he was a faithful majority of the game , had people questioning him when he was a faithful and at VERY END gets made a Traitor gets set up and goes out as a Traitor. :(

 

 

I don’t know what it is but something in me is rooting against Charlotte winning . I get it’s the name of game but I don’t particularly like how dirty she’s played in setting up Freddie and especially Minah , So I’m kind of glad Frankie picked her to be the one to reveal her identity as it now makes very vulnerable and I’d be surprised if she ends up winning .

Och I do feel bad for Freddie, as much as I like Charlotte, after this episode I'd rather see the faithfuls (specifically Frankie and Leanne) win

 

I actually feel so bad for Freddie, he was a faithful majority of the game , had people questioning him when he was a faithful and at VERY END gets made a Traitor gets set up and goes out as a Traitor. :(

I don’t know what it is but something in me is rooting against Charlotte winning . I get it’s the name of game but I don’t particularly like how dirty she’s played in setting up Freddie and especially Minah , So I’m kind of glad Frankie picked her to be the one to reveal her identity as it now makes very vulnerable and I’d be surprised if she ends up winning .

 

Agree with both of you. Freddie was royally stitched up there. :( basically had to choose between being stitched up by Charlotte and go out as a Traitor despite only being one for 24 hours or be murdered. -_- I was rooting for Charlotte even though she was so cut-throat with Minah but the whole recruiting-to-stitch-up move is not it. It looks like her gameplay is going to come back and bite her though and glad Freddie threw her under the bus while he still could lol. I can't believe Frankie has managed to select the traitor through no other process than to just wanting to affirm who she thinks is a faithful. She is going to be speechless bless her.

The stitch up always happens though, it happened with Kieran in Season 1 and Andrew in Season 2. At that point in the game it's impossible. I thought Freddie actually did a really good job, but the lie caught him out in the end, otherwise he would have got away with it. The irony being if Alexander gets banished, Charlotte would 100% win the show.

 

Now we've got to a stage where Leanne & Jake win. There is no way they don't from here on out. Freddie rightly through Charlotte under the bus there, but otherwise she'd have won easily. I like the Seer twist and it's good the show is experimenting with new ideas to keep the format the same but fresh too. Agree that at this late stage in the game it seems a bit wasted, but it makes for a good last episode at least. Not sure the Season 2 finale will be beaten with that Harry vs Jaz finale. To be fair to Jake, he has been a good faithful, but he's so irritating :lol:

 

Also, Frankie obviously only picked Charlotte as Freddie's vote spooked her. I think it was a bad play on her behalf now as Charlotte will spin it and put heat on Frankie. Jake could definitely be convinced, Leanne possibly could be too.

Ohhh I was wondering how this twist would work and I think I like it but I agree that it's happened a bit *too* late in the game for me. But still interesting to see how it'll all play out tomorrow.

 

I love Alexander so much! He's been the absolute heart of the series for me. He's helped me warm to Leanne too. It really irritated me that Leanne gets really defensive and couldn't grasp that people were allowed to believe it to be her (with a very solid theory too) but expected people to be ok with the idea that she thinks it's them... like... that is literally the game? But then when she got up and immediately hugged Alexander... that was such a lovely moment! I really would love Alexander and Leanne to win together tbh because it'd be such a full circle moment for them both.

 

I've gone from wanting Minah/Traitors to win to actually being OK with the Faithfuls winning. I'm really interested to see if Charlotte has pulled the wool over everyone's eyes enough to turn them against Frankie.

When I saw the rumours about the twist, I was highly sceptical of it, and this is precisely why. Charlotte's playing so well and that's exactly why she's been picked, because she's convinced Frankie so well that she's a faithful... of all the things to stop her winning it's a little unsatisfying, as great as the tension was during last night's episode, to see someone so effortlessly strategic effectively having their entire game ruined by something out of their control. I felt bad for Freddie but that was a masterful move from Charlotte and is *exactly* what this sort of game is about, so it's baffling me to see people using that as a reason not to root for her.

 

I loooove Minah but Charlotte is a mastermind and I've been firmly rooting for her (well, both her and Minah when she was still in). I can't see past a Jake and Leanne win at this stage. Charlotte won't go down without a fight so it'll probably end up with Frankie being banished too, and Alexander still has too much doubt on him in Leanne's mind for her to take the risk I imagine. I'm not huge on Leanne and the way she acts as if anyone's personally offending her when they're suspicious of her, but Jake's grown on me more over the series.

When I saw the rumours about the twist, I was highly sceptical of it, and this is precisely why. Charlotte's playing so well and that's exactly why she's been picked, because she's convinced Frankie so well that she's a faithful... of all the things to stop her winning it's a little unsatisfying, as great as the tension was during last night's episode, to see someone so effortlessly strategic effectively having their entire game ruined by something out of their control. I felt bad for Freddie but that was a masterful move from Charlotte and is *exactly* what this sort of game is about, so it's baffling me to see people using that as a reason not to root for her.

 

I loooove Minah but Charlotte is a mastermind and I've been firmly rooting for her (well, both her and Minah when she was still in). I can't see past a Jake and Leanne win at this stage. Charlotte won't go down without a fight so it'll probably end up with Frankie being banished too, and Alexander still has too much doubt on him in Leanne's mind for her to take the risk I imagine. I'm not huge on Leanne and the way she acts as if anyone's personally offending her when they're suspicious of her, but Jake's grown on me more over the series.

 

Charlotte was picked because Freddie was a traitor and he voted for Charlotte randomly. The logical thing to do would have been to vote for Alexander. The vote for Charlotte from Freddie sewed a seed of doubt and now she will know if Charlotte is a traitor or a faithful.

 

Charlotte was playing a blinding game, but that stitch up of Freddie was a good and bad move. Of course he would try and throw her under the bus too, it was naive of Charlotte to think this in the round table unless she calculated it could be a Freddie/Alexander split in the vote. It was TOO random a vote, similar to Kieran voting Wilf in season 1. If I’m honest, I think Charlotte almost got too clever. The heat was already on Freddie and she had the numbers to win in a vote. She didn’t need to do that shield decoy.

Whilst Charlotte did throw Freddie under the bus, it would've been better for her game to use that last round table to banish Alexander, ie team up with Freddie. It wouldn't have taken much for the vote to go the other way. As it was Freddie panicked earlier in the day then his story fell apart - which Charlotte jumped on board with.

 

Had Alexander been banished and revealed he was a Faithful. Eyes would've turned to Freddie anyway, and the Seer power used to check on him. Charlotte probably would've been able to sneak through a bit more. Instead focus has shifted onto her as she went in so hard with Freddie so quickly.

 

Basically Charlotte is going to go in a similar way to Wilf (Series 1) and Kieron's 'parting gift' being a similar downfall.

 

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Charlotte could have murdered someone else and took down the numbers instead she kept Leanne to throw Freddie under the bus(someone nobody trusted anyway) who in turn made various signals she was also a traitor. Her fake Welsh accent is also a bit more on the overthinking it lane. So we shall see she might slither out of it and win but if not I think she’s been a bit overrated with a few very unnecessary moves that really served no purpose.

I sometimes don't mind Leanne, but the way she often behaves so childishly and uber-defensive makes it difficult to warm to her.

 

"How dare you mention my name and suspect me!"... like, duh. That's what the game is about.

 

Alexander is an absolute sweetheart! :heart:

Charlotte was picked because Freddie was a traitor and he voted for Charlotte randomly. The logical thing to do would have been to vote for Alexander. The vote for Charlotte from Freddie sewed a seed of doubt and now she will know if Charlotte is a traitor or a faithful.

 

Charlotte was playing a blinding game, but that stitch up of Freddie was a good and bad move. Of course he would try and throw her under the bus too, it was naive of Charlotte to think this in the round table unless she calculated it could be a Freddie/Alexander split in the vote. It was TOO random a vote, similar to Kieran voting Wilf in season 1. If I’m honest, I think Charlotte almost got too clever. The heat was already on Freddie and she had the numbers to win in a vote. She didn’t need to do that shield decoy.

Frankie literally explained in the show that she picked Charlotte to confirm her faithfulness...! A smart move if Charlotte actually were a faithful then they could form an alliance and ensure they're the final 2. Obviously, it won't work that way given Charlotte's actually a traitor.

Really hoping that Frankie thinks on her feet enough to realise that saying that Charlotte's a Traitor will pretty much always lead to her own banishment and tells the rest of the group instead that Charlotte's a Faithful.

 

Which does massively increase the odds of Charlotte winning, but it sets up a potentially really interesting set of final banishments where Charlotte and Frankie are working against each other to swing the rest of the group in their favour (and pretty much the only way that my preferred option of Alexander and Frankie sharing the prize pot comes to fruition x)

Really hoping that Frankie thinks on her feet enough to realise that saying that Charlotte's a Traitor will pretty much always lead to her own banishment and tells the rest of the group instead that Charlotte's a Faithful.

 

Which does massively increase the odds of Charlotte winning, but it sets up a potentially really interesting set of final banishments where Charlotte and Frankie are working against each other to swing the rest of the group in their favour (and pretty much the only way that my preferred option of Alexander and Frankie sharing the prize pot comes to fruition x)

 

I don't see how Frankie can say Charlotte is a faithful though - it would completely kill her trying to banish Charlotte in any forthcoming banishments. If she then says she lied that Charlotte was a faithful, it would just bring more heat back on her.

 

Really the only option for Frankie is to be truthful with everyone, its a question of how she is going to do it. Go in guns blazing, or take people aside and say it. Its annoying tough that if they take Frankie's word and Charlotte is banished then she wont be automatically vindicated as no one left will reveal their true identities.

 

Hope Frankie manages to pull of winning though, really grown to like her over the last couple of weeks, after being non-existent during the first week.

Really hoping that Frankie thinks on her feet enough to realise that saying that Charlotte's a Traitor will pretty much always lead to her own banishment and tells the rest of the group instead that Charlotte's a Faithful.

 

Which does massively increase the odds of Charlotte winning, but it sets up a potentially really interesting set of final banishments where Charlotte and Frankie are working against each other to swing the rest of the group in their favour (and pretty much the only way that my preferred option of Alexander and Frankie sharing the prize pot comes to fruition x)

That would be very silly for Frankie to do why would she do that ?