February 4Feb 4 He’s got both countries to spend large resources on the border fulfilling his promise to reduce illegal immigration and clear up the opioid epidemic. The point of tough rhetoric with tariffs is that you can follow through if you don’t get good concessions and while you both lose they lose considerably more so the onus is on them to make a deal. Tariffs are used by so many countries worldwide and most leaders aren’t real business people hence they often make terrible deals. How is any of this a loss for the US? Companies now will think twice before leaving the US as tariffs might come at any moment. The border is now being patrolled from all angles. Compare to the UK who have been outmanoeuvred by countries they give large aid too. The UK has big trade deficits with certain countries and still can never hold leverage over them when they need something. Rwanda played Sunak like crazy, they got billions for absolutely nothing. People don’t like the optics because it seems like bullying almost but ultimately it’s win for America. The big clash will be with the EU nobody is more arrogant and stubborn than EU bureaucrats and the EU is a lot more powerful than Canada. That’s one I’d like to see who wins the negotiations How is it a win when the US have literally got nothing extra back! It’s a bit like all those trade deals the Tories signed that were actually worse than we had than when in the U.K. You make it out like Trump is some mastermind businesses man. How many companies has be bankrupted? You’re looking at everything through a completely blinkered lense. What’s more likely (as Brexit proved) is people won’t invest in an instability that’s not going to be cost effective and can’t take advantage of local trading partners.
February 4Feb 4 How is it a win when the US have literally got nothing extra back! It’s a bit like all those trade deals the Tories signed that were actually worse than we had than when in the U.K. You make it out like Trump is some mastermind businesses man. How many companies has be bankrupted? You’re looking at everything through a completely blinkered lense. What’s more likely (as Brexit proved) is people won’t invest in an instability that’s not going to be cost effective and can’t take advantage of local trading partners. Compared to most leaders I’ve seen in the western world he is. The Tories were woeful nobody is disputing that. Bankrupting businesses is just cutting losses on ventures. You just have new ventures. The vast majority of businesses fail. Failing in business is almost a necessary step in the process. You can’t be scared to fail or scared to gamble. Most western leaders are scared of both and that’s why the UK is a mess. They have Canada spending 1.5 billion extra on border security. They have Mexico permanently putting 10k guards on the border. This inevitably reduces border crossings by a very high percentage and reduces their wild drug problem. That’s all without spending a dime. He had the leverage knowing they rely on the US much more than the other way around and he used that to get other countries to act instead of treating the US as an easy option where you ignore criminals/drugs crossing and just say “that’s their problem now” Once you have no real chance of getting in illegally or if you do you’ll likely be deported you stop trying. That’s a huge problem solved. Look at Europe. People are going from Italy to France to the UK all illegally, knowing these countries won’t do anything they’ll just let it be the UK’s problem and the UK will just put them in a hotel and hope they escape and go undetected so they don’t have to deal with it. How is that going to create a safe society? it’ll just lead to record numbers coming for the rest of time. When you have a national health service that’s pretty costly. People will only admit the obvious once the UK is totally bankrupt.
February 4Feb 4 Trump blinked. He backes down and all he got for it was a loss of soft American power. Oh, loads from Canada boycotting US goods from red states and refusing tk trabel there too, soo... Disaster for Trump. He has tk act like the tiny concessions, Mexico and Canada continuing what they were doing anyway, is a major win lol. The right wingers kn Twotter will believe it. No one else will.
February 4Feb 4 I think Liam youre also assuming the borders are being patrolled like crazy following the deals when the deals haven’t been put into effect yet your just making a assumption they will be. Taking Trumps word for it. Also, industries aren’t all situated on one country these days, certain parts of cars are all made in various different countries based on workforce skill and expense so tariffs will just make it more expensive to buy cars for example, in general for everyone.
February 4Feb 4 Author Compared to most leaders I’ve seen in the western world he is. The Tories were woeful nobody is disputing that. Bankrupting businesses is just cutting losses on ventures. You just have new ventures. The vast majority of businesses fail. Failing in business is almost a necessary step in the process. You can’t be scared to fail or scared to gamble. Most western leaders are scared of both and that’s why the UK is a mess. They have Canada spending 1.5 billion extra on border security. They have Mexico permanently putting 10k guards on the border. This inevitably reduces border crossings by a very high percentage and reduces their wild drug problem. That’s all without spending a dime. He had the leverage knowing they rely on the US much more than the other way around and he used that to get other countries to act instead of treating the US as an easy option where you ignore criminals/drugs crossing and just say “that’s their problem now” Once you have no real chance of getting in illegally or if you do you’ll likely be deported you stop trying. That’s a huge problem solved. Look at Europe. People are going from Italy to France to the UK all illegally, knowing these countries won’t do anything they’ll just let it be the UK’s problem and the UK will just put them in a hotel and hope they escape and go undetected so they don’t have to deal with it. How is that going to create a safe society? it’ll just lead to record numbers coming for the rest of time. When you have a national health service that’s pretty costly. People will only admit the obvious once the UK is totally bankrupt. Right and to get all of that he just had to throw away all sorts of business confidence that their very important cross-border trades wouldn't be impacted and make America an unpredictable economic partner in the eyes of its allies. This high-risk brinksmanship has me asking the question, what is Trump's actual intention? Is he trying to extract concessions, or will he actually go through with tariffs if another nation doesn't blink? If he only ever does the former, then he risks a nation doing the latter, and if he does the latter, he brings all the pain of tariffs and whatever countermeasures they put in, and all the while no one knows reliably what will be going on. I'm not sure that's an environment an economy trying to stand up against China really wants to be in for the long-term.
February 4Feb 4 Compared to most leaders I’ve seen in the western world he is. The Tories were woeful nobody is disputing that. Bankrupting businesses is just cutting losses on ventures. You just have new ventures. The vast majority of businesses fail. Failing in business is almost a necessary step in the process. You can’t be scared to fail or scared to gamble. Most western leaders are scared of both and that’s why the UK is a mess. They have Canada spending 1.5 billion extra on border security. They have Mexico permanently putting 10k guards on the border. This inevitably reduces border crossings by a very high percentage and reduces their wild drug problem. That’s all without spending a dime. He had the leverage knowing they rely on the US much more than the other way around and he used that to get other countries to act instead of treating the US as an easy option where you ignore criminals/drugs crossing and just say “that’s their problem now” Once you have no real chance of getting in illegally or if you do you’ll likely be deported you stop trying. That’s a huge problem solved. Look at Europe. People are going from Italy to France to the UK all illegally, knowing these countries won’t do anything they’ll just let it be the UK’s problem and the UK will just put them in a hotel and hope they escape and go undetected so they don’t have to deal with it. How is that going to create a safe society? it’ll just lead to record numbers coming for the rest of time. When you have a national health service that’s pretty costly. People will only admit the obvious once the UK is totally bankrupt. Steve puts it far more eloquenty than me, but you are assuming all these "wins" that Trump has got as good strategic plays. He's literally not achieved anything, taken away the tariffs that were proposed and you're assuming there will be extra guards there to protect borders. Nobody will know either way - you have assumed it will happen, whereas there is no proof it will actually happen. Everything it taken at face value. Most politicians know how to play Trump - check out what Boris Johnson was saying on election night. Unfortunately for America fentanyl is rife and a few extra guards aren't going to make the world of difference. I think we have different definitions of a businessman, as while Trump is undoubtedly super successful, how he made and acquired his wealth (along with most billionaires) through dodgy, unethical and is idebidly corrupt. He took advantages of the system and certianly played a risky game that worked out well for him. Some of the ideas you are putting through are full of pure right wing populism. Oh yes, the health service is expensive and nobody can get an appointment cos of illegal immigrants! When actually the welfare state was designed decades ago for a much smaller population we have now and we have an aging population. Some while it is great that people live longer, there is also a knock on effect. And anyway as far as I am aware on the health service if you're not a UK national, you also have to pay in to the system a lot more.
February 7Feb 7 Going after paper straws next :rofl: Making all the big decisions. In a more genuine speech though, it is all a bit concerning though as you can already see the seeds for which way America is going to go next socially. Some bonkers rhetorics on Twitter today.
February 8Feb 8 Pretty annoying hes went for straws, yeh the paper ones are annoying but you only use them for 5 mins and throw them out. I’m sure people will survive with that first world problem instead of a single use plastic!
February 12Feb 12 People are normal-washing Trump's Presidential address being interrupted by Musk who spoke over him, Musk having also brought his pre-school aged child into the room. This is being described as cute and endearing instead of bizarre and alarming.
February 12Feb 12 Author Musk: 'I have detractors?' there's no way this preposterous imbecile doesn't know he's widely hated, and to have him standing up there grinning like the real president, god I hope the Democrats continue hammering this attack line.
February 12Feb 12 Musk: 'I have detractors?' there's no way this preposterous imbecile doesn't know he's widely hated, and to have him standing up there grinning like the real president, god I hope the Democrats continue hammering this attack line. People don't like Musk, as soon as the cult understand this. I'm not against the efficency work he's doing, but it's all in the wrong areas and there's a clear political bias in there too in terms of the agencies being targeted.
February 12Feb 12 Not to mention WILDLY illegal. There is a separation of powers and he is usurping Congress'. Also, he is closing down the consumer protection bureau. That is bad.
February 13Feb 13 People are normal-washing Trump's Presidential address being interrupted by Musk who spoke over him, Musk having also brought his pre-school aged child into the room. This is being described as cute and endearing instead of bizarre and alarming. I haven’t seen one part of my feed saying that about his child they’ve all said the opposite that it’s weird.
February 13Feb 13 People don't like Musk, as soon as the cult understand this. I'm not against the efficency work he's doing, but it's all in the wrong areas and there's a clear political bias in there too in terms of the agencies being targeted. I’m not sure it’s entirely political as much of it is very personal to Musk going after agencies that are investigating him and the myriad of companies he bought and pretends he runs
February 13Feb 13 I’m not sure it’s entirely political as much of it is very personal to Musk going after agencies that are investigating him and the myriad of companies he bought and pretends he runs Exactly right. Total grifter.
February 13Feb 13 Also, aren't billionaires constantly defending their wealth, saying they work that many times harder than their workers?! So what is he doing swanning around with Trump all the time and doing press conferences ..m instead of working that many times harder than allll his workers at allll his companies? Far right fash.
February 13Feb 13 RFK Jr confirmed as health secretary published at 16:31 16:31 BREAKING RFK Jr has been voted in as health secretary and is the latest of Trump's nominees to be selected for their chosen roles. He was approved by 52 to 48 votes. As a reminder, some of his priorities include tackling obesity and cutting out ultra-processed foods. Only Patel left as head of the FBi I actually don’t think he’ll be approved there is something too amateur about him but we shall see
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