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Last year’s thread: http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=268573

 

Positions are accurate thanks to the fabulous weekly subscription publication, UKChartsPlus. Sales estimates are all my own. Estimating singles sales is never entirely straightforward as the weekly chart has rules applied, but I do my best. Feel free to chip in at any point with more accurate information.

 

I will aim to post the updated YTD Top 40 with sales each week, and some selected others.

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    Week 9: 1 1 Lola Young Messy 434,000 610,000 2 2 Rosé and Bruno Mars APT. 412,000 770,000 3 3 Gracie Abrams That's So True 384,000 820,000 4 4 Lady Gaga and Bruno Mars Die With A Smile 344,000 980,00

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As a special one off treat I’m giving the full Top 100; back to a Top 40 for future weeks.

 

1 47,000 480,000 Gracie Abrams That's So True

2 42,000 400,000 Rosé and Bruno Mars APT.

3 36,000 670,000 Lady Gaga and Bruno Mars Die With A Smile

4 36,000 210,000 Lola Young Messy

5 30,000 630,000 Gigi Perez Sailor Song

6 28,000 1,250,000 Billie Eilish Birds Of A Feather

7 28,000 1,780,000 Sabrina Carpenter Espresso

8 27,000 1,230,000 Chappell Roan Good Luck, Babe!

9 26,000 820,000 Sabrina Carpenter Taste

10 24,000 1,810,000 Benson Boone Beautiful Things

11 23,000 1,750,000 Teddy Swims Lose Control

12 22,000 Chrystal The Days

13 22,000 1,490,000 Hozier Too Sweet

14 21,000 1,360,000 Shaboozey A Bar Song (Tipsy)

15 21,000 690,000 Teddy Swims The Door

16 20,000 1,030,000 Myles Smith Stargazing

17 20,000 2,540,000 Noah Kahan Stick Season

18 20,000 680,000 Chappell Roan Hot To Go

19 20,000 1,160,000 Sabrina Carpenter Please Please Please

20 19,000 500,000 Gracie Abrams I Love You, I'm Sorry

21 19,000 260,000 Teddy Swims Bad Dreams

22 17,000 1,170,000 Dasha Austin

23 17,000 490,000 Sonny Fodera, Jazzy & D.O.D. Somedays

24 17,000 Cynthia Erivo and Ariana Grande Defying Gravity

25 16,000 410,000 Sabrina Carpenter Bed Chem

26 16,000 240,000 The Weeknd and Playboi Carti Timeless

27 16,000 6,220,000 Wham! Last Christmas

28 15,000 Myles Smith Nice To Meet You

29 15,000 6,080,000 The Killers Mr Brightside

30 14,000 670,000 Bl3ss & CamrinWatsin featuring BbyClose Kisses

31 14,000 920,000 Post Malone featuring Morgan Wallen I Had Some Help

32 14,000 480,000 Adam Porte and Stryv featuring Malachiii Move

33 14,000 530,000 Billie Eilish Wildflower

34 13,000 5,560,000 Mariah Carey All I Want For Christmas Is You

35 13,000 300,000 Jimin Who

36 13,000 510,000 Charli XCX & Billie Eilish Guess

37 13,000 Sam Fender People Watching

38 13,000 Pawsa and The Adventures Of Stevie V Dirty Cash (Money Talks)

39 12,000 230,000 KSI featuring Triple Redd Thick Of It

40 12,000 440,000 Chappell Roan Pink Pony Club

41 12,000 530,000 Chase & Status and Stormzy Backbone

42 12,000 2,240,000 Taylor Swift Cruel Summer

43 12,000 3,820,000 Goo Goo Dolls Iris

44 12,000 430,000 Charli XCX Apple

45 11,000 3,590,000 Coldplay Viva La Vida

46 11,000 3,590,000 Fleetwood Mac Everywhere

47 11,000 450,000 Charli XCX 360

48 11,000 3,230,000 Fleetwood Mac Dreams

49 11,000 3,800,000 Journey Don't Stop Believin'

50 11,000 3,210,000 Coldplay Yellow

51 11,000 2,970,000 Brenda Lee Rockin' Around The Christmas Tree

52 11,000 4,250,000 Vance Joy Riptide

53 11,000 Ariana Grande Popular

54 11,000 Ariana Grade & Cynthia Erivo What Is This Feeling?

55 11,000 Kendrick Lamar & Sza Luther

56 10,000 Tom Grennan It Can't Be Christmas

57 10,000 690,000 Benson Boone Slow It Down

58 10,000 290,000 Alex Warren Carry You Home

59 10,000 750,000 Mark Ambor Belong Together

60 10,000 3,370,000 Whitney Houston I Wanna Dance With Somebody (Who Loves Me)

61 10,000 Tyla Push 2 Start

62 10,000 3,960,000 Kings Of Leon Sex On Fire

63 10,000 280,000 Addison Rae Diet Pepsi

64 10,000 1,870,000 Sophie Ellis-Bextor Murder On The Dancefloor

65 10,000 820,000 Michael Marcagi Scared To Start

66 10,000 1,580,000 Cassö with Raye & D Block Europe Prada

67 10,000 2,370,000 Bruce Springsteen Dancing In The Dark

68 10,000 Tyler, The Creator featuring Lola Young Like Him

69 9,000 760,000 Ariana Grande We Can't Be Friends (Wait For Your Love)

70 9,000 3,510,000 Queen Don't Stop Me Now

71 9,000 250,000 Sabrina Carpenter Juno

72 9,000 3,100,000 ABBA Dancing Queen

73 9,000 1,870,000 Bobby Helms Jingle Bell Rock

74 9,000 2,320,000 The Police Every Breath You Take

75 9,000 640,000 Taylor Swift I Can Do It With A Broken Heart

76 9,000 4,340,000 Hozier Take Me To Church

77 9,000 4,420,000 The Pogues featuring Kirsty MacColl Fairytale Of New York

78 9,000 3,670,000 Walk The Moon Shut Up + Dance

79 9,000 440,000 Chappell Roan Red Wine Supernova

80 9,000 1,940,000 Natasha Bedingfield Unwritten

81 9,000 250,000 Gracie Abrams Close To You

82 9,000 Kendrick Lamar TV Off

83 9,000 850,000 Artemas I Like The Way You Kiss Me

84 9,000 2,000,000 Naughty Boy featuring Sam Smith La La La

85 9,000 2,390,000 Mark Ronson featuring Amy Winehouse Valerie

86 9,000 830,000 Zach Bryan featuring Kacey Musgraves I Remember Everything

87 9,000 5,860,000 Lewis Capaldi Someone You Loved

88 9,000 780,000 Djo End Of Beginning

89 9,000 340,000 The Kid Laroi Nights Like This

90 9,000 240,000 Marvin Gaye & Tammi Terrell Ain't No Mountain High Enough

91 9,000 3,160,000 Toploader Dancing In The Moonlight

92 9,000 3,040,000 Tears For Fears Everybody Wants To Rule The World

93 9,000 1,830,000 Lord Huron The Night We Met

94 9,000 2,440,000 Wham! Wake Me Up Before You Go Go

95 9,000 2,340,000 Ariana Grande Santa Tell Me

96 9,000 350,000 Zach Bryan Pink Skies

97 9,000 2,470,000 Coldplay A Sky Full Of Stars

98 8,000 Tate McRae It's OK I'm OK

99 8,000 3,230,000 The Kooks Naïve

100 8,000 360,000 Coldplay Feelslikeimfallinginlove

We’re so back!

 

Thanks as always for doing this Julian. Look forward to following throughout the year.

 

 

Ayy glad this is back for another year, thanks Julian! Unlike last year everything in the official top 40 has ended up here. Can already see some interesting oldies, can't wait to see how everything holds up!

Glad this is back for another year :cheer:

Double Wham! in this first top 100, and a lot of songs which didn't appear in any of last year's YTDs, not least 'That's So True' - last year there was no change at the top, kinda hope that isn't the case this year. Will be great to follow how everything will shake up as the weeks go on!

Do we think messy/thats so true will be top 5 at the end of the year? They do have a huge advantage after all. I’m sure DWAS will be top 10 too
Think it's waaaaay too early to make any predictions like that. I'd say give it a couple of months to get a clearer picture

So as I was confused about at the end of last year, Move's position on the Independent Singles chart is not accurate of its actual sales.

 

It is below Dirty Cash on the Independent chart this week but comfortably above it here. I wonder why that is.

 

I assume its something to do with remixes, is the Camila Cabello version on a different (non-independent) record label for example?

So as I was confused about at the end of last year, Move's position on the Independent Singles chart is not accurate of its actual sales.

 

It is below Dirty Cash on the Independent chart this week but comfortably above it here. I wonder why that is.

 

I assume its something to do with remixes, is the Camila Cabello version on a different (non-independent) record label for example?

 

Very strange indeed. Original is on Keinemusik and Spotify credits the remix to "Keinemusik under licence from Interscope" so I doubt labels would have anything to do with it

 

Just noticed "Ransom" by Lil Tecca is number 46 on streaming and 52 on audio streaming but nowhere near this top 100. Must be a very low premium to free stream ratio for it!

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So as I was confused about at the end of last year, Move's position on the Independent Singles chart is not accurate of its actual sales.

 

It is below Dirty Cash on the Independent chart this week but comfortably above it here. I wonder why that is.

Yeah I was pretty sure the week you questioned it that its independent charts placing must be wrong as it had to have done about 14k, and now we know for sure. I don’t know why though.

Maybe streams of the Camila Cabello remix don't count to the Independent chart? The label details say 'under exclusive license to Interscope Records' on the remix while it's just Keinemusik for the original.

 

edit: oop I missed Maestro and gasman's posts already mentioning this somehow :P (though somehow coming to the opposite conclusion)

Maybe streams of the Camila Cabello remix don't count to the Independent chart? The label details say 'under exclusive license to Interscope Records' on the remix while it's just Keinemusik for the original.

 

edit: oop I missed Maestro and gasman's posts already mentioning this somehow :P (though somehow coming to the opposite conclusion)

 

No I agree with you. I think that has to be it. Seems like the only logical conclusion to me. Actually somewhat impressed that the OCC has that set up.

 

Also relevant in the point from last month on the streaming thread regarding the re-recorded version of Rockin’ Around the Christmas Tree and whether it was combined.

Just fired off an email to the Charts Company's chart rules email asking for clarification on how Move ended up above Dirty Cash. Hopefully will get a reply :)

Jimin better not fraud his way onto the YE.

 

Here are some thoughts and stats based on carry overs etc.

 

 

Songs in the Audio Streaming Chart which didn't make the top 100:

#52 Lil Tecca Ransom (This actually isn't even close based on the Hip-Hop Chart)

#65 Juice WRLD - Lucid Dreams

#85 Jordan Adetunji - KEHLANI

#90 Juice WRLD - Empty Out Your Pockets

#93 Arctic Monkeys - 505

#100 Fleetwood Mac - Go Your Own Way

 

Replaced By:

#79 Chappell Roan - Red Wine Supernova (Surprised this has such a good ratio, almost seems like a mistake)

#91 Toploader - Dancing in the Moonlight

#97 Coldplay - A Sky Full of Stars

#98 Tate McRae - It's ok I'm ok

#99 The Kooks - Naïve

#100 Coldplay - feelslikeimfallinginlove

 

There are 57 songs on the list which made last year's year end list plus nine that have made a previous year end list leaving 34 new entries.

The Re-Entries are:

#60 Whitney Houston - I Wanna Dance with Somebody (Who Loves Me) [#3 1987]

#70 Queen - Don't Stop Me Now [#81 1979, #99 2019, #99 2022]

#72 ABBA - Dancing Queen [#4 1976]

#74 The Police - Every Breath You Take [#16 1983]

#77 The Pogues feat. Kirsty MacColl - Fairytale of New York [#48 1987, #73 2005, #89 2007, #86 2021, #73 2023]

#84 Naughty Boy feat. Sam Smith - La La La [#5 2013]

#91 Toploader - Dancing in the Moonlight [#49 2001]

#94 Wham! - Wake Me Up Before You Go-Go [#11 1984]

#97 Coldplay - A Sky Full of Stars [#40 2015]

 

List of Songs that were on the YTD in Week 1 of 2023 and haven't left:

Taylor Swift - Cruel Summer

Fleetwood Mac -Dreams

Tears for Fears -Everybody Wants to Rule the World

Fleetwood Mac - Everywhere

Zach Bryan feat. Kacey Musgraves - I Remember Everything

The Goo Goo Dolls - Iris

Teddy Swims - Lose Control

The Killers - Mr. Brightside (Pretty sure this hasn't left since week 1 of 2017)

Sophie Ellis-Bextor - Murder on the Dancefloor

The Kooks - Naïve

casso, RAYE & D-Block Europe - Prada

Vance Joy - Riptide

Noah Kahan - Stick Season

Hozier - Take Me to Church

Lord Huron - The Night We Met

Coldplay - Viva la Vida

 

Naive is the most impressive on that list imo

 

Top 5 Songs on last year's YE not present:

#14 Beyonce - TEXAS HOLD 'EM

#18 Tate McRae - greedy

#19 Taylor Swift feat. Post Malone - Fortnight

#26 Eminem - Houdini

#28 Jack Harlow - Lovin On Me

 

 

 

Didn't catch Lucid Dreams being that high in the audio streaming! Can't be too far away from the list based on the hip hop charts. Will hopefully emerge (and stick around) once the Christmas stuff falls out. Would be great to see it on another YE lis, as long as its not to the detriment of a 2025 release
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Thanks so much for that analysis Maestro - all things I’d been thinking to look at myself but hadn’t got round to! :)
Thanks so much for that analysis Maestro - all things I’d been thinking to look at myself but hadn’t got round to! :)

 

No worries. It took me a very long time to find a full YE for 1979. I was pretty sure Don’t Stop Me Now would be on it from its original chart run but Wikipedia didn’t have a 1979 position for it.

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No worries. It took me a very long time to find a full YE for 1979. I was pretty sure Don’t Stop Me Now would be on it from its original chart run but Wikipedia didn’t have a 1979 position for it.

Haven forum has a full list of YTDs since 1970. I think you have to create an account and get it approved before you can view them, but it’s a good little forum (smaller than here).

 

Thinking about it though it may well be worth getting them all added to the chart vault here.

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