44 minutes ago, Adelita said:

Paul McCartney, Kylie Minogue, Sabrina Carpenter, Katy Perry, Miley Cyrus, U2, Alex Warren, Tate McRae, Kelly Clarkson, Justin Bieber, Chris Brown, Bryan Adams, Ed Sheeran, Boyz II Men, Bob Dylan, Maroon 5, John Denver, Bruce Springsteen and every K-Pop and country act.

If I remember any others, I'll let you know.

Take it the goalposts have moved because at least half of these have written some of their biggest hits themselves, heck Eds even written the biggest hits of other artists 🤣🤣

2 minutes ago, 777666jason said:

Take it the goalposts have moved because at least half of these have written some of their biggest hits themselves, heck Eds even written the biggest hits of other artists 🤣🤣

Moved? The goalposts have never been still, every post they contradict themselves, I mean they list a load of acts and misses almost every boyband that has existed.

Edited Saturday at 18:514 days by steveh31

3 minutes ago, steveh31 said:

Moved? The goalposts have never been still, every post they contradict themselves, I mean they list a load of acts and misses almost every boyband that has existed.

I'm starting to think they hate literally everyone except lady Gaga 😅

7 hours ago, JosephCarey said:

I think Kylie being called an industry plant is one of the top 5 most ridiculous things I've read on here (and that's saying something x)

Ridiculous to you, but it's still true. I already brought the receipts. This woman didn't write any of her biggest hits and she was never an acclaimed singer like Adele or an acclaimed dancer like Janet Jackson, always mid at everything and depending on other people's pens.

TikTok didn't invent industry plants, they've existed for decades, and it doesn't matter if they lasted 40 years or just 4 months, they are still industry plants.

3 minutes ago, 777666jason said:

I'm starting to think they hate literally everyone except lady Gaga 😅

Probably peeved that Kylie is the first woman to score #1 hits in 4 different decades and only her and Cliff Richard have had top 3 singles on 5 consecutive decades.

Such a plant

6 hours ago, 777666jason said:

Seriously you do realise about 90 per cent of artists don't actually write their own music 🤣🤣

If those 90% aren't excellent in some area of talent (to compensate for a lack of talent for writing their own songs), they can't be called artists at all. Let's raise our concept of what it means to be an artist, please.

Just now, Adelita said:

Ridiculous to you, but it's still true. I already brought the receipts. This woman didn't write any of her biggest hits and she was never an acclaimed singer like Adele or an acclaimed dancer like Janet Jackson, always mid at everything and depending on other people's pens.

TikTok didn't invent industry plants, they've existed for decades, and it doesn't matter if they lasted 40 years or just 4 months, they are still industry plants.

Janet Jackson 😄😄 I mean she made her own way didn't she never used the surname to get anywhere

1 minute ago, Knightr634 said:

Probably peeved that Kylie is the first woman to score #1 hits in 4 different decades and only her and Cliff Richard have had top 3 singles on 5 consecutive decades.

Such a plant

They won't like Cliff as he apparently didn't write The Millennium Prayer, I believe he was in contact with the writer most days but has not paid the Lord any royalties in the last 26 years. Cliff you are shameful. 😁

1 minute ago, Adelita said:

If those 90% aren't excellent in some area of talent (to compensate for a lack of talent for writing their own songs), they can't be called artists at all. Let's raise our concept of what it means to be an artist, please.

Well just been reading Gagas history on Wikipedia and I can't see how she is any less of a industry plant than the people you have suggested, 🤷

6 hours ago, 777666jason said:

By that logic we can argue that Gaga is a gimmick that only got huge because of her outlandish outfits

Except that Gaga always wrote and produced all of her hits, her outfits were just the icing on the cake, which was more than necessary at a time when all female artists dressed like housewives.

10 minutes ago, Knightr634 said:

Probably peeved that Kylie is the first woman to score #1 hits in 4 different decades and only her and Cliff Richard have had top 3 singles on 5 consecutive decades.

Such a plant

Cliff actually had Top 3 singles in 6 consecutive decades

(a factoid probably wasted in this thread)

1 minute ago, Adelita said:

Except that Gaga always wrote and produced all of her hits, her outfits were just the icing on the cake, which was more than necessary at a time when all female artists dressed like housewives.

I just feel so sorry for you. I really think if Lady Gaga - someone you clearly love - was to read your posts, she would be absolutely ashamed to have you as a fan. Taking down other artists to suit your agenda is just sad.

4 minutes ago, Adelita said:

Except that Gaga always wrote and produced all of her hits, her outfits were just the icing on the cake, which was more than necessary at a time when all female artists dressed like housewives.

So Red One had nothing to do with it then if she wrote and produced ALL her hits?

6 hours ago, Knightr634 said:

I just need to say, I’m so sorry. Genuinely I really am. If you can’t enjoy music because you feel the artist doesn’t “immerse themselves in their own art”. I just feel so saddened for you that your letting your ego get in the way of enjoying music. I dont like some artist or songs l, their not to my taste (Jessie J being one of them - I only like Domino) but I don’t feel the need to go on the internet so enraged by it.

By the way there is more to a pop star then writing songs. Kylie is very hands on the music video treatments, her tours, arrangements, costumes.

Maybe an actor isn’t authentic as they have been given a script rather than write it themselves? My advise, don’t go to the theatre any time soon….

You don't need to feel sorry for me for telling the truth, I know not everyone can handle it. And you missed the point, it doesn't matter if an artist writes their own songs, as long as they are excellent in some area to the point that no one questions their lack of commitment to their own art, Whitney being a great example, because with that voice, no one ever dared to question how far she'd come, which is clearly not the case with Kylie, who has always been mid at everything, didn't write her biggest hits and sings through her nose.

6 minutes ago, Adelita said:

Except that Gaga always wrote and produced all of her hits, her outfits were just the icing on the cake, which was more than necessary at a time when all female artists dressed like housewives.

Fairly certian she literally name checks a Producer in the first line of her first hit Just Dance 🤷

Just now, Adelita said:

You don't need to feel sorry for me for telling the truth, I know not everyone can handle it. And you missed the point, it doesn't matter if an artist writes their own songs, as long as they are excellent in some area to the point that no one questions their lack of commitment to their own art, Whitney being a great example, because with that voice, no one ever dared to question how far she'd come, which is clearly not the case with Kylie, who has always been mid at everything, didn't write her biggest hits and sings through her nose.

Err Whitney? Yeah she wrote so many of her biggest hits, that famous one she wrote err what was it "I Will Always Sing My Own Song?" "I Wanna Have A Hit With Somebody Else Who Wrote It"

6 hours ago, steveh31 said:

So I ask again if you are a music writer who cannot sing does that mean no one gets to hear your songs?
So Bernie Taupin should have sung all the hits Elton John sang?

You really need to think what you are saying, some people sing some people write, some are lucky to do both.

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Elton always wrote his songs with Bernie, stop comparing apples to oranges.

Just now, Adelita said:

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Elton always wrote his songs with Bernie, stop comparing apples to oranges.

Bulls**t he is quoted as saying he rang Bernie Taupin and asked him to re-write Candle In The Wind

For her work as songwriter for "Slow" from Body Language (2003), Minogue received two nominations for Ivor Novello Awards for "Best Contemporary Song" and "International Hit of the Year".

Gaga herself respects Kylie and even publicly thanked her, ahem, for being ‘a supportive female’.

Do you think we can maybe put this ridiculous thing to bed now, Gaga would no doubt be pretty ashamed about any of her fans talking about Kylie like this. Let’s support other female artists and not tear them down, like Gaga herself does.

Both are brilliant ARTISTS, let’s respect that they are in different ways.

I thought it was that Pork guy from the other thread you were all arguing with!