And quite honestly I'm still not convinced the problem lies with the chart, but more with the wider industry - where are the big new releases?

Scrap the compilation chart and move compilations back to the albums chart and remove Christmas songs that are over 3 years old from the singles chart

I feel we are going around and around in here

29 minutes ago, Henessy Lake said:

I feel we are going around and around in here

That’s just some rules I’d change and I’d remove streaming and create a brand new combined sales and streaming chart

So youd remove streaming to create a new chart which is the exact same as we have now HUH ?

46 minutes ago, JosephStyles said:

And quite honestly I'm still not convinced the problem lies with the chart, but more with the wider industry - where are the big new releases?

Honestly this - RMI hasn’t been doing untouchable/record breaking numbers week in week out the fact there’s nothing to mount a considerable challenge to it after 21 weeks says a lot about the industry, release schedule and big new music pushes.

6 minutes ago, 777666jason said:

So youd remove streaming to create a new chart which is the exact same as we have now HUH ?

Yes and the singles chart will be sales only or if I wasn’t to remove streaming, I’d make it 1 stream per sale person rather than 10 streams per person per sale meaning if a person streams a song 10 times, only one of those streams will count

Edited yesterday at 13:571 day by Hadji

2 minutes ago, Hadji said:

Yes and the singles chart will be sales only

They already have those, a singles chart and the combined one is the official 1 😅

2 minutes ago, 777666jason said:

They already have those, a singles chart and the combined one is the official 1 😅

Swap them round so the official singles charts will be sales only and the combined chart will be what the charts would look like with streaming. Removing streaming might encourage people to switch back to sales

No random resets for old songs either. The charts will be strictly new music

Streaming won't be removed from the singles chart so I don't think we should be entertaining that idea.

People also don't care about the charts enough to make a switch back to downloading if streaming were to stop counting. It just wouldn't happen.

9 minutes ago, Hadji said:

Swap them round so the official singles charts will be sales only and the combined chart will be what the charts would look like with streaming. Removing streaming might encourage people to switch back to sales

They wont because the public dont even care about the charts anymore , youd be lucky to get a number 1 with 500 sales 😅

Edited yesterday at 14:181 day by 777666jason

1 hour ago, JosephStyles said:

And quite honestly I'm still not convinced the problem lies with the chart, but more with the wider industry - where are the big new releases?

To be fair we have had some expected "big releases" from Harry Styles, Drake, Olivia R, Ariana and BTS - they just haven't had as much long-term domination as you'd expect. The Weeknd/Taylor released last year, I'm not sure who else who hasn't released could possibly outdo what has already come this year. (Adele maybe?)

3 minutes ago, 777666jason said:

They wount because the public dont even care about the charts anymore , youd be lucky to get a number 1 with 500 sales 😅

The chart runs would be 1-57-22-98-71-11-out ☠️

17 minutes ago, Hadji said:

Swap them round so the official singles charts will be sales only and the combined chart will be what the charts would look like with streaming. Removing streaming might encourage people to switch back to sales

Banning WhatsApp could also encourage people to switch back to sending letters in the post.

1 hour ago, Hadji said:

…and remove Christmas songs that are over 3 years old from the singles chart

Haven’t you been commenting for weeks that you want Last Christmas to break Rein Me In’s record, now you want Last Christmas removed from the chart?

5 hours ago, Scone1 said:

Good grief no. radio plays would ruin things further IMO, only music paid for should be eligible.

I’m talking about audience data not actual number of plays. Only music paid for - so no data used from free users then?

 

3 hours ago, gasman449 said:

Radio is absolutely not the solution, it means songs by indie artists or songs that don't fit what an executive wants their station to sound like have an instant disadvantage. Not to mention radio is nowhere near as big as it once was and it would just prolong the chart runs of songs that are already past their peak. The best part about the UK chart is that it has no direct radio influence and it truly is the "people's chart". And yes curated playlists on streaming services are similar but at least in that case the listener has the option to skip a song.

I never said it was a solution. It’s another way people consume music. Have you looked at the airplay chart recently- there’s far more variety and movement! Skip a song > change the station.

Edited yesterday at 15:151 day by reissus123

3 hours ago, JosephStyles said:

Adding radio would be a terrible idea and it's not remotely similar to streaming - you can very easily skip songs on curated playlists so it really isn't the same thing. The last thing we want to do is give more power to industry bigwigs who decide which artists are and aren't relevant, especially when it seems like Radio 1, for example, are moving past that a little, given recent Madonna playlistings for example.

Yes it is- people choose to listen to curated playlists on both streaming and radio.

Wasn’t Madonna recently #1 on the radio airplay chart! Inclusion of this data would certainly balance legacy acts total exclusion from streaming

Edited yesterday at 15:261 day by reissus123

Just now, reissus123 said:

Yes it is- people choose to listen to curated playlists on both streaming and radio. Wasn’t Madonna recently #1 on the radio airplay chart!

Entirely possible but she was famously snubbed from Radio 1 for years, much like Kylie and other artists that are deemed to be past it. Many make it to Radio 2 of course but it's all in the hands of the stations themselves as to which songs get the opportunity to break through. It's not like streaming where Hot Hits UK exists, but if a song makes a big enough impact, it breaks through on its own! There's no option for that on radio.

26 minutes ago, ___∆___ said:

Haven’t you been commenting for weeks that you want Last Christmas to break Rein Me In’s record, now you want Last Christmas removed from the chart?

May as well seeing the longer Rein Me In stays at number 1, the longer it’s gonna take for Sam Fender to have to rescind his award to Andrew Ridgeley