So it wasnt top 100 in pjysicals this week so if people in UK did get some of the vinyls then these sales figures are obviously being held back for 16th October which is good news!!!

Madonna team learning

3 x CD for 2.99 with Charlie XCX on Danceteria now available

We need 3 x Love Sensation Remix CDs too please with a famous DJ lol

Edited Tuesday at 04:374 days by SmileyKylie

Vinyl sold out now on her page. Wonder if they have closedthe sales ready to release another 3 CDs or a cassette

53 minutes ago, SmileyKylie said:

Vinyl sold out now on her page. Wonder if they have closedthe sales ready to release another 3 CDs or a cassette

I really don’t think we’ll get anything else - they wanted a Top 10 and they got it, the track has shown no legs and throwing out some extra CDs or a cassette won’t change its fortunes.

I doubt it

I think they've moved on now to the 'Danceteria' remix. It's done its job.

Even Taylor Swift is doing the 3 x CD thing and ships from 13th October a few days before Madge and Kylie vinyl lol

Interesting that Madonna and Charli XCX are no 3 on NMF U.K. with the remix of Danceteria when Love Sensation wasn’t included at all. It really feels that at times that Spotify have it in for Kylie - no wonder she went to Amazon for XMAS.

7 minutes ago, iain said:

Interesting that Madonna and Charli XCX are no 3 on NMF U.K. with the remix of Danceteria when Love Sensation wasn’t included at all. It really feels that at times that Spotify have it in for Kylie - no wonder she went to Amazon for XMAS.

Was just coming to post this!

At the time everyone was saying because the Kylie one was a duet/collab of a previously released song that Spotify don’t support them however they’ve put Madonna and Charli straight to #3 on NMF.

It’s hard to not feel that they ignore anything Kylie related when they support nothing - collabs, hit songs (Padam, Tension) etc.,

I wonder why they do it especially as kylie as a person just seems liked by everyone.

I'm not fully understanding how it all works but does label payments make a difference?

There has always been the claim that labels pay however I’m not convinced that is a widespread thing.

Not that they supported Kylie much before but guessing she’s been further ‘blacklisted’ after giving Amazon a streaming exclusive last year - historically they seem to punish artists that have had an Amazon exclusive with their subsequent releases.

It's manipulation really which really is how a large part of the charts are these days. Least in the physical days you had to put in the effort to buy the format where now its a case where streaming sites push songs your way rather than choosing them.

In a way kylie was lucky to have her biggest success pre streaming as she made tones of money where as these days a 3 million selling number 1 single earns very little.

It's crazy cos the other Danceteria remix a few weeks ago was high too.

Looks like Kylie is defo not going to be in LA tomorrow. She seemingly not rushing to leave the AFL finals day lol

17 hours ago, Padamic_Tension said:

It's manipulation really which really is how a large part of the charts are these days. Least in the physical days you had to put in the effort to buy the format where now its a case where streaming sites push songs your way rather than choosing them.

In a way kylie was lucky to have her biggest success pre streaming as she made tones of money where as these days a 3 million selling number 1 single earns very little.

This such a BS - surely an artist (or label or anyone involved) earns MORE money from a song that is streamed for like 2 billion times than a song that sold 200k copies in 1992? Even if the payment is like 0.001 pounds per stream, 2 billion streams would be 2 million pounds in royalties (+ whatever airplay would give). Not to mention, old songs get some streams all the time so it's all extra income.

It's true that artists earned more per single release in a short term earlier, but the sales completely stopped when the single was out of stock like went 80k per week to couple of pounds in a month. For instance Kylie with Tears on My Pillow. It was out of chart after 8 weeks so she didn't earn much on the 9th week any more.

17 minutes ago, Sour Candy said:

This such a BS - surely an artist (or label or anyone involved) earns MORE money from a song that is streamed for like 2 billion times than a song that sold 200k copies in 1992? Even if the payment is like 0.001 pounds per stream, 2 billion streams would be 2 million pounds in royalties (+ whatever airplay would give). Not to mention, old songs get some streams all the time so it's all extra income.

It's true that artists earned more per single release in a short term earlier, but the sales completely stopped when the single was out of stock like went 80k per week to couple of pounds in a month. For instance Kylie with Tears on My Pillow. It was out of chart after 8 weeks so she didn't earn much on the 9th week any more.

I’m not sure it is ‘such BS’ as you so eloquently put it.

A billion streams on Spotify earns between £2.3 to £3.8 million.

However there are huge variables - generative income from countries where premium plans are much lower (in some countries Spotify Premium costs as little as £2), exchange rates, publisher costs, co-writers etc., - some of which would have been in play in the physical world however when taken into account I’m not convinced a 1 billion streamed song earns anymore than a 600,000 platinum single that was only released physically.

It's not always black and white but the point is: the eternal availability brings long time income to artists. I'm fairly sure XMAS in 2025 is more profitable for Kylie than let's say one of her top ten hits of the 90s, even though it's a streaming era release.