Posted March 19, 200718 yr well im not into all this notion that man were created/bred by aliens.... BUT... why did man evolve to be the clever trevors? why mamal? why not reptiles who have lived far far longer then mamals.. the thing though that strikes me most.... the planet doesnt need mankind, everything else in nature would get on in a pristine environment ad infinitum. you could argue that the human race is a disease, killing the host, like a cancer.... looking at it from that perspective is rather depressing tbh, instead of being masters of the planet, the bees knees, top dog, we are the lowest form of life with no relevance whatsoever. having a brain we should know better, but that just makes our environmental crimes even worse... pre-meditated distruction.
March 19, 200718 yr I think Agent Smith in "The Matrix" put it well - "Mankind is a disease.. A virus on the planet"... :lol: When you think about it, we behave a bit like locusts, we come along to a fertile place, use up all the natural resources in that place and then move on to the next place in more or less the same manner as locusts who destroy whole fields of crops and then move onto another field... I reckon the thing that stopped reptiles/dinosaurs from being the 'clever trevors' as you put it, was the massive 'extinction level event' which happened millions of years ago... The dinos got too big for their boots and were killed off, I reckon something similar is on the way for us sooner or later.... And then after that..? Who knows, maybe it'll be the insects' or the fishes' turn to have a go.... Probably fish, because the way the polar ice caps are melting I reckon in the next thousand years the whole world'll be underwater....
March 19, 200718 yr Author the polar icecaps actually grow and shrink as part of a natural cycle... :) i havnt seen 'the matrix' too modern! lol but that quote is spot on...
March 19, 200718 yr I don't believe we are the 'clever trevors'. For humans to assume we are the most intelligent species on the planet would seem to be a affirmation of our ignorance. It seems to me that Dolphin/Whales are the most intellectual species. It's more the physical/mechanical side that allows humans to be dominate, the ability to create tools which is from things mainly because we have hands, including the important thumb. Without a thumb, grabbing and holding things is far more difficult allowing us on land at least - to create and hold weapons to attack others and defend ourself.
March 19, 200718 yr Haha 'clever trevors'. I love that phrase. :lol: I don't know. Maybe it's just a complete accident that we ended up being the sentient beings. Or maybe we are some kind of experiment by god or a higher intelligence, and they're just watching us destroy ourselves.
March 19, 200718 yr the way the polar ice caps are melting I reckon in the next thousand years the whole world'll be underwater....Not enough water to do that. the polar icecaps actually grow and shrink as part of a natural cycle... :) i havnt seen 'the matrix' too modern! lol but that quote is spot on...Agree it's a natural cycle but not ones humans have encountered before in humanities known history. It's quite easy really, you just move to land 10m or so above sea level. What do we do? Well we are still build homes on the shore line including homes below sea level. Talk about stupidity. And humanity thinks it's clever :arrr:
March 19, 200718 yr well im not into all this notion that man were created/bred by aliens.... BUT... why did man evolve to be the clever trevors? why mamal? why not reptiles who have lived far far longer then mamals.. Because if we were reptiles you would ask "why not mammals?", and it´s obvious that the more primitive animals have to exist for longer then the ones evolved from them. And then reptiles are not so able to adapt themselves to different ambients like us because of their body temperature. the thing though that strikes me most.... the planet doesnt need mankind, everything else in nature would get on in a pristine environment ad infinitum. you could argue that the human race is a disease, killing the host, like a cancer.... looking at it from that perspective is rather depressing tbh, instead of being masters of the planet, the bees knees, top dog, we are the lowest form of life with no relevance whatsoever. having a brain we should know better, but that just makes our environmental crimes even worse... pre-meditated distruction. The planet doesn´t need manking, as far as I know it doesn´t need any type of life, life just exists, it´s not necessary to exist life, why do the universe exists? It´s not necessary at all, I mean, it´s useful for us, but if we weren´t here this planet would be nothing but a rock floating in the nothing.
March 19, 200718 yr I think Agent Smith in "The Matrix" put it well - "Mankind is a disease.. A virus on the planet"... :lol: When you think about it, we behave a bit like locusts, we come along to a fertile place, use up all the natural resources in that place and then move on to the next place in more or less the same manner as locusts who destroy whole fields of crops and then move onto another field... But I think it´s better to see fields destroyed by us then see fields serving to nothing... Imagine vast tropical forests existing on Mars or in Jupiter... would be useful for nothing. None of these vegetables will ever write a symphony or a sonet. We should preserve them only for our own good because without us they wouldn´t be worth at all. Why is everyone worried because of the global warming, if the entire planet is covered with water life will go on and evolve, and adapt itself... since most of the living species on this planet are extint it´s only natural that the current ones will be extinct too and give place to the next ones... We are not worried because of the forests, the cute animals, and stuff... We are only worried because of ourselves. So what in 2 million years this planet might be water only and there will be marvellous new types of aquatic animals and vegetables of all colours, but who cares, we won´t be here to see it and our species is damned. And by the way I don´t think dinosaurs ever been intelligent/clever, neither wales or dolphins, they just to what every animals do, sleep, have sex, eat, give birth, get old, die... What makes our species important is the stuff we do in between these ones that evert animal does.
March 19, 200718 yr Author Because if we were reptiles you would ask "why not mammals?", and it´s obvious that the more primitive animals have to exist for longer then the ones evolved from them. And then reptiles are not so able to adapt themselves to different ambients like us because of their body temperature. the notion is that they would evolve so dont judge them by what they are now but how they could have adapted... they had much longer to do so..
March 19, 200718 yr Author I don't believe we are the 'clever trevors'. For humans to assume we are the most intelligent species on the planet would seem to be a affirmation of our ignorance. It seems to me that Dolphin/Whales are the most intellectual species. i dont agree...if they are so intelligent why cant they work out that we are hostile and evade us? it aint rocket science!
March 19, 200718 yr Agree it's a natural cycle but not ones humans have encountered before in humanities known history. Well, 12,000 years ago, the 'Ice Age' had enveloped Northern Europe, and Neanderthal man was around to witness it... Mind you, Ice Age is a bit of a misleading term, it should be called the Dramatic Change Age really, as there were periods of hot and cold weather fluctuating over thousands of miles. This is due to the earth tilting on its axis as it travells around the sun, over time. Man could be made extinct by the next dramatic change,,,
March 19, 200718 yr Well, 12,000 years ago, the 'Ice Age' had enveloped Northern Europe, and Neanderthal man was around to witness it... Mind you, Ice Age is a bit of a misleading term, it should be called the Dramatic Change Age really, as there were periods of hot and cold weather fluctuating over thousands of miles. This is due to the earth tilting on its axis as it travells around the sun, over time. Man could be made extinct by the next dramatic change,,, If we survived 12k years ago without any technology then we can go a bit further now...
March 19, 200718 yr If we survived 12k years ago without any technology then we can go a bit further now... Aah yes, but 'we' were not 'we' then. Neanderthals were slightly different to modern humans.
March 20, 200718 yr i dont agree...if they are so intelligent why cant they work out that we are hostile and evade us? it aint rocket science! This is largely what they do by living in the water.
March 20, 200718 yr Well if I see some people, the though does occur to me..:) :rofl: That was a good one... Now, seriously speaking, I guess manking is not gonna dissapear, but we will just evolve... As we passed from N eantherthals until how we are now, we will change with the nature that will follow... For sure there will not be 5 billion people like now, but the ones that remain, will survive to those diseases that killed all the big mass of humans. And this has always been our evolving way :unsure: xox. Edited March 20, 200718 yr by Cornholio
March 20, 200718 yr If you've got an hour to spare, take a look at this program: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3...35653&hl=en It's a pretty well-done documentary on the factors that could/will eventually render humans extinct. From asteroids to mega-volcanos, global warming to nuclear winter... It's sensationalistic but entertaining and informative.
March 21, 200718 yr If you've got an hour to spare, take a look at this program: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3...35653&hl=en It's a pretty well-done documentary on the factors that could/will eventually render humans extinct. From asteroids to mega-volcanos, global warming to nuclear winter... It's sensationalistic but entertaining and informative. Watched every single second of that! Really fascinating and quite scary in some places..
March 28, 200718 yr Did you know that 'we' did not actually evolve from Neanderhals? Apparently Neanderthals were a completely different species to homo sapiens. They now think Neanderthals and 'our lot' co-existed for a few thousand years. And there is no evidence of cross-breeding either. :P They still don't know exactly why the Neanderthals died out. Maybe 'man' annihilated them. :o I find all this quite fascinating. Anorak. :lol:
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