They are grim and boring.

I have a very strong hatred for Coldplay for the pure fact that they're boring. Seeing as they are supposed to be working with Timbaland on their next album hopefully the quality of their music will improve. :D

 

probs not. apart from that timberlake/ti tune, most of the recent Mosley output has been comercial bordom esp the last few nelly f records (note: i've got the first two of her albums). dont think any improvements will be made, just even more bordom

 

Sorry mate, cant stand them... They pretty much single-handedly destroyed everything that was great about Indie and Britpop.. Fukkin' "Dad Rock" piffle.... Travis are also guilty as charged, but on a lesser scale because at least they had the decency to disappear into obscurity....

 

my thought exactly. they have made some alright tunes but ts totally q magazine we are talking about here. its supposed to be an 'alternative focused genre'.

 

so should u2 appear here?

 

 

 

so should u2 appear here?

 

No, U2 are neither Indie nor Alternative these days.... Their 80s stuff, up until they did "Rattle and Hum", and especially the first three albums, could probably be just about termed "indie" or maybe even Post-Punk when you consider tracks like "Sunday Bloody Sunday" or "Gloria" (and wasn't Island Records a fairly small label at this juncture as well...?).. When I think about it, I actually really should have put "Sunday Bloody Sunday" into my Indie Faves Thread.... :unsure:

 

But these days....? AOR, Stadium Rock whores.... Pop Forum fodder...

No, U2 are neither Indie nor Alternative these days.... Their 80s stuff, up until they did "Rattle and Hum", and especially the first three albums, could probably be just about termed "indie" or maybe even Post-Punk when you consider tracks like "Sunday Bloody Sunday" or "Gloria" (and wasn't Island Records a fairly small label at this juncture as well...?).. When I think about it, I actually really should have put "Sunday Bloody Sunday" into my Indie Faves Thread.... :unsure:

 

But these days....? AOR, Stadium Rock whores.... Pop Forum fodder...

 

My arse do they belong in the pop forum mate! :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

The pop forum is for mainly manifactured meaningless drivel these days, certainly no place for Bono and the boys. U2 are a rock band, they are rock stars, not pop stars. Last I checked they don't do silly dance routines, lip-sync or make meaningless music. Their 90's experimental material could be critisized but at least they can't be desribed as boring and sticking to the same formula like 90% of other bands do. In each decade they have released a completelly different type of music and I respect them for that. Their last two albums are two of the most consistant and stongest records of not only their career but the decade so far imo, it is very rare these days when I listen to an album where I can listen to every single song without skipping and really enjoy it. The lryics on 'All That You Can't Leave Behind' in patricular are fantastic, the melody is brilliant and Bono's voice is at it's best and gets better as each year goes by. The Edge has said himself he has never played better than he is right now, and has promised their next album will once again be completelly different from the last.

 

And I take it you have'nt been to see them live on their Vertigo Tour over the past few years? If you can call gigs such as the ones I saw, both live in Croke Park in Dublin, and on DVD, gigs by a 'pop' act then clearly you have a completelly different definition of the word to me. :lol: They're not bloody Bon Jovi mate, if they were I certainly would'nt be a fan. :P

 

As for Coldplay, well I do like a few of their singles, but I find it extremly hard to listen to even half of an album without getting a little depressed. I don't know wether it is Chris Martin's voice or the music itself, I reaken his voice is the main problem for me. Just too dreary imo.

My arse do they belong in the pop forum mate! :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

The pop forum is for mainly manifactured meaningless drivel these days, certainly no place for Bono and the boys. U2 are a rock band, they are rock stars, not pop stars. Last I checked they don't do silly dance routines, lip-sync or make meaningless music. Their 90's experimental material could be critisized but at least they can't be desribed as boring and sticking to the same formula like 90% of other bands do. In each decade they have released a completelly different type of music and I respect them for that. Their last two albums are two of the most consistant and stongest records of not only their career but the decade so far imo, it is very rare these days when I listen to an album where I can listen to every single song without skipping and really enjoy it. The lryics on 'All That You Can't Leave Behind' in patricular are fantastic, the melody is brilliant and Bono's voice is at it's best and gets better as each year goes by. The Edge has said himself he has never played better than he is right now, and has promised their next album will once again be completelly different from the last.

 

And I take it you have'nt been to see them live on their Vertigo Tour over the past few years? If you can call gigs such as the ones I saw, both live in Croke Park in Dublin, and on DVD, gigs by a 'pop' act then clearly you have a completelly different definition of the word to me. :lol: They're not bloody Bon Jovi mate, if they were I certainly would'nt be a fan. :P

 

As for Coldplay, well I do like a few of their singles, but I find it extremly hard to listen to even half of an album without getting a little depressed. I don't know wether it is Chris Martin's voice or the music itself, I reaken his voice is the main problem for me. Just too dreary imo.

 

I was perhaps a tad harsh, but these days I find them incredibly boring, uninspiring and I just dont care about them. It doesn't help that Bono seems to think he's a cross between Jesus and Jim Morrison... They just sound like some American band now, whereas their 80s material had a certain spikeyness to it.... I would certainly hope that The Edge would be technically a better guitarist than 27 years ago, god knows he's been playing for long enough, but I prefer the guitar work in the first five albums, which has a more organic feel to it, to the rather over-produced sound they've been doing since "Achtung Baby".... I see their 90s excursions as being a sort of attempt at a Nine Inch Nails sound (which you cant deny, Bono has namechecked Trent Reznor in several interviews..), but being a bit too gutless to embrace the idea entirely, Depeche Mode did a better job of it with their two 90s albums IMO... Their more recent material is certainly guitar Pop rock. Who says Pop has to necessarily be a bad thing anyway...? Is it not about time it was reclaimed 'Pop' from all the manufactured tripe...? Okay, U2 aren't as naff as Bon Jovi for sure, but I dont really regard them as a Rock band anymore, I reckon Depeche Mode are more 'rock' than U2 are these days tbh....

Following this lot you had The Stereophonics and Travis, both of whom did more damage to the reputation of 'indie' than Coldplay ever could.

 

Indeed - the Stereophonics were one of the worst most hackneyed unoriginal dirgey bands out there.

 

I don't mind Coldplay's music - his voice is far more listenable than fat boy from Keane, and their songs far more tuneful than Travis. But everything in the right dose and they are waaay overexposed. And I can't stand his preachiness either - I feel sorry for the rest of the band if he does it to them as well.

I love Clodplay... my dad says that they suck... but to me, one of THE bends. Love them.... I love Martin's vocal...

Erm, why was this moved to the Coldplay forum.......? It's a general thread and not a fan-based thing..... As if you're gonna get a 'balanced' answer to the question here.... <_<

Erm, why was this moved to the Coldplay forum.......? It's a general thread and not a fan-based thing..... As if you're gonna get a 'balanced' answer to the question here.... <_<

 

I think Chartmaster moved it, seeing as how he is a Global Mod i aint gonna move it back

Erm, why was this moved to the Coldplay forum.......? It's a general thread and not a fan-based thing..... As if you're gonna get a 'balanced' answer to the question here.... <_>

Well, the posts have been hardly balanced so far (the general concensus seems to be that one of my top bands ever are 'boring' and 'bland' :| ), but I do agree, moved back to Indie and Alternative Rock for more general discussion....

Well, the posts have been hardly balanced so far (the general concensus seems to be that one of my top bands ever are 'boring' and 'bland' :| ), but I do agree, moved back to Indie and Alternative Rock for more general discussion....

 

Don´t worry it happens with every band that achieves sucess, people want to discover the next hyped act cause it´s more fashionable then liking a band that everybody knows.

Don´t worry it happens with every band that achieves sucess, people want to discover the next hyped act cause it´s more fashionable then liking a band that everybody knows.

Yes because a new act never gets slated...

I love them.

Favourite is Fix You.

Yes because a new act never gets slated...

 

Hardly, because most people don´t know them... Coldplay were loved and praised by the critics in the beginning, after they sold millions of albums and everyone knows who they are people start considering them "bland", what´s the definition of bland anyway? Does any of this crappy bands loved by the critics can make a musical piece like Coldplay´s Green Eyes from their 2nd album? They need to be screaming and taking drugs to be considered relevant? Just watch for the Artic Monkeys, next they´re going to flop or be considered bland and boring, even if their debut album was considered one of the ALL TIME Top 5 albums in the week it had just been released... Annoyng. Just look at Joss Stone, what happened to the teenage soul diva, suddenly became a boring and ignored act that is flopping her ass off. The same magazines who made her now as slagging her off.

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Love Coldplay :D

 

Chris Martin writes excellent songs too, 'All Good Things' :wub:

Hardly, because most people don´t know them... Coldplay were loved and praised by the critics in the beginning, after they sold millions of albums and everyone knows who they are people start considering them "bland", what´s the definition of bland anyway? Does any of this crappy bands loved by the critics can make a musical piece like Coldplay´s Green Eyes from their 2nd album? They need to be screaming and taking drugs to be considered relevant? Just watch for the Artic Monkeys, next they´re going to flop or be considered bland and boring, even if their debut album was considered one of the ALL TIME Top 5 albums in the week it had just been released... Annoyng. Just look at Joss Stone, what happened to the teenage soul diva, suddenly became a boring and ignored act that is flopping her ass off. The same magazines who made her now as slagging her off.

 

That's actually fairly accurate.. I remember the NME totally fawning all over them when they did "Parachutes"... I have to say that "Yellow" is probably the ONLY Coldplay song that I can listen to anymore, and when I heard it, I thought, "Hey, this sounds like an interesting band"... Unfortunately about three quarters of "Parachutes" just did not even come close to matching "Yellow" (the NME fukkin' lied to me....) and I took the album back to Virgin to exchange it.... I believe I actually exchanged it for the first My Ruin album, "Speak and Destroy"..... Now THAT fukkin' ROCKED!!!!!

Coldplay ROCKS B) I am Huge fan, I went to their tour here in NY and It was so powerful AMAZING. :heart:

The roots of dadrock are found in Paul Weller, Ocean Colour Scene (Weller acolytes) and Oasis (once Weller started hanging around them). You also have Urban Hymns-era Verve who popularised the 'this song's bland so let's put strings all over it' blueprint and made an entire album out of it.

 

Tell you what man funny thing happened at the pub quiz the other night. The Quiz man is a grey haied dude who loves things like Steely Dan, 70s Rock and Paul Wellers records very much. Of the Paul Weller discography he likes Sunflower (which was a #16 hit in 1993) esp v much which he puts in the quiz every few weeks or so.

 

Now in the quiz that night he played all these Pete Waterman records as part of the quiz like Mel and Kim, Damien and Rick Astley. He pronounced Rick Astley as 'Rick Ghastly' and critised them for all being rubbish and sounding the same. Now the thing is that he also had Paul Wellers Sunflower record in the quiz and even though he played the first verse upto the chorus and featured the record in the quiz three weeks ago everybody this week still thought it was The Changingman (from 1995!!!). I suppose we can analyse this like this: obv loads of Paul Weller records must sound the same and must be as worse or as worse as Pete Waterman's output in another genre (esp since all of those tracks he played that night sounded different).

 

btw the only thing we managed to get completely right was bizarrely the Average White Band - Pick Up The Pieces from 1975. So I suppose those jazzfunk documentaries on bbc4 were so damn v helpful :lol: :lol:

way too overrated

 

granted theyve done a couple of good songs but musically theyre not very interesting imo

 

So far so good, for all that I care