October 4, 200717 yr Getting sick of the f***ers :manson: :manson: Whatever legitimate points they have over pay or whatever this is not the way to go about it and turns the public and business against their cause All this will do is benefit more private mail companies particularly in the business sector and will lead to loads of posties losing their jobs and when that happens it will be hard to find any sympathy We all want pay rises posties are no different but this ain't the way to achieve it Well done Postman Prat
October 4, 200717 yr for one week???? dont they know i'm waiting for my pink calendar that i ordered :lol:
October 4, 200717 yr I've supported the 24 hour strikes because they didn't cause too much disruption and I do think that they have some very valid points in their arguments, but a whole week is going way too far, and it will just play into the Private Mail firm's hands.... Even a pro-trade unionist such as myself cant really find any sort of justification for this sort of action...
October 4, 200717 yr Author Yes a whole week, its over cutting staff, and they want to modernised the Postal industry.
October 4, 200717 yr 1 Week is way to much.. What about bills that have to be posted and important letters? Stupid
October 4, 200717 yr everytime a business needs modernising the workforce understandably react. but tbh its a waste of time, modernisation is and always be a fact of life as progress is made. they clearly DO NOT have public sympathy, and i agree with craig, itll play straight into their rivals hands!
October 4, 200717 yr The post lady that comes to where I work to pick up the post is bloody sick of going on strike, she's really fed up of it... They said they's pick up our post today at 12:00 but they never turned up.
October 4, 200717 yr everytime a business needs modernising the workforce understandably react. but tbh its a waste of time, modernisation is and always be a fact of life as progress is made. It aint progress though mate, it's essentially about the Govt wanting to eventually privatise the postal service, they've been tinkering with the Royal Mail for quite some time now, as did teh Tories before them and it's hardly improved the service, in fact, it's just gotten worse.. I feel we should all be against this happening.. How does it really improve a PUBLIC service to cut 40,000 jobs...? It doesn't...
October 4, 200717 yr My dad is a postman and people really beed to take time to understand the reason for the strike instead of just shooting their mouths off. The changes that this Crozier guy (somebody who knows f**k all about royal mail) wants to bring in are ridiculous. My dad has been paying into his pension for 30 years & if they accept these changes, he'll get far less than he's put in. They also want workers to cover people's holiday leave unpaid. Thats two of a large number of ludicrous changes they want to enforce. I'm totally in favour.
October 4, 200717 yr The changes that this Crozier guy (somebody who knows f**k all about royal mail) wants to bring in are ridiculous. My dad has been paying into his pension for 30 years & if they accept these changes, he'll get far less than he's put in. They also want workers to cover people's holiday leave unpaid. Thats two of a large number of ludicrous changes they want to enforce. I'm totally in favour. I would be in favour of a one day or even a two day strike, but two 48 hour strikes rolling over is a bit much to take... I used to work for Royal Mail myself and I did pay into their pension scheme for the five years that I was employed there, if what you're saying about the pensions is true, then that is totally bang out of order, but it's just indicative of how these companies are getting away with shafting their workers over company pension schemes.. Oh, and of course our "wonderful" PM, Mr Brown-noser just let these w/ankers get totally off the hook didn't he...? <_<
October 4, 200717 yr My dad is a postman and people really beed to take time to understand the reason for the strike instead of just shooting their mouths off. The changes that this Crozier guy (somebody who knows f**k all about royal mail) wants to bring in are ridiculous. My dad has been paying into his pension for 30 years & if they accept these changes, he'll get far less than he's put in. They also want workers to cover people's holiday leave unpaid. Thats two of a large number of ludicrous changes they want to enforce. I'm totally in favour. yeah but it aint all about that. i absolutely agree that they shouldnt have their pensions messed about with, after all, its their money and they deserve it. so on the pension thing im with them. but modernisation, getting machines in to do the sorting, is inevitable. the union are obviously against job cuts (as less members = less power), but you cant have a victorian mail service in the 21st centuary. changes in working practices are inevitable and it will cost jobs... that might not be very popular, but its gone on ever since the luddites smashed up them machines back in the 18th centuary! its tough luck on some, but modernisation is a fact of life and we all must learn to adapt.
October 4, 200717 yr does this affect the entire country? coz i know sum areas weren't affected last time
October 4, 200717 yr modernisation, getting machines in to do the sorting, is inevitable. the union are obviously against job cuts (as less members = less power), but you cant have a victorian mail service in the 21st centuary. Rob, there have been sorting machines, which sort mail according to postcodes, for bloody years now in sorting offices. If you'd actually worked for Royal Mail you'd know that... But even they cant get it right all the time and it will rely on manual sorting when it actually gets to the delivery office, especially when you take into account that not everyone uses or can remember a postcode, or sometimes wrong or partial postcodes are on letters, a machine which does the sorting according to the postcode will not be able to sort that mail, and there's a lot more of that than you'd think - there are millions of items of mail in the system on any given day, even 10% of that mail that doesn't have a post code or has a wrong post code still amounts to a hell of a lot.... Why is it that all you people who've never even worked for the Royal Mail before and have no idea of the logistics involved in mail delivery seem to think you're experts....? NeverWasteGltter is right, people simply dont know what they're talking about.... And you think you're gonna be able to find a machine to be able to actually deliver the mail...? Drive the vans..? Collect the Mail from the mailboxes and post offices...? Dont be silly.... 40,000 job losses WILL have an incredibly adverse effect on mail deliveries.. And the facts are, they've already been screwed up enough - there used to be TWO deliveries in one day, now only one, there used to be three separate mail collections in any given day, now only one... It's no wonder First Class Mail is taking up to two or three days to actually be delivered when before it would generally arrive within 24 hours....
October 4, 200717 yr Rob, there have been sorting machines, which sort mail according to postcodes, for bloody years now in sorting offices. If you'd actually worked for Royal Mail you'd know that... But even they cant get it right all the time and it will rely on manual sorting when it actually gets to the delivery office, especially when you take into account that not everyone uses a postcode or sometimes wrong or partial postcodes are on letters, a machine which does the sorting according to the postcode will not be able to sort that mail... Why is it that all you people who've never even worked for the Royal Mail before and have no idea of the logistics involved in mail delivery seem to think you're experts....? And you think you're gonna be able to find a machine to be able to actually deliver the mail...? Drive the vans..? Collect the Mail from the mailboxes and post offices...? Dont be silly.... of COURSE im fully aware that there have been 'sorting machines' for decades now, according to the news reports the royal mail want to bring in MORE machines for sorting, maybe they are better ones now, after all , time moves on. i can only go off what the bbc report, and part of the problem is modernisation due to new machines. as for delivering the mail.... dont be silly! no one has ever said that they are getting rid of all posties in favour of robots delivering the mail... god .. you dont half go ott sometimes!
October 4, 200717 yr I was under the impression that part of the issue was also the addition of "leaflet / junk mail" deliveries taken on by the Post Office. So instead of visiting the houses on their rounds that actually had mail the post person now has to visit every house, for no extra ££. No wonder post takes so long. But I agree that the week long disruption will make them no friends and lose them a lot of sympathy.
October 4, 200717 yr I hate it when the postmen go on strike. I mean good on them for fighting for what they want, but it always seems to happen when I have a ton of imports waiting to be delivered to me. Make Exceptions RM! :angry: xD
October 4, 200717 yr Sack the lot of them I say and bring the army in to do the job. They'll be back to work like a shot. They make me sick. Want want want. Me Me Me. What about the public they're inconveniencing. Oh and I have worked as a postman in the 80's. Easy job, finish at 12. Edited October 4, 200717 yr by Crazy Chris
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