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Late Friday night, early Saturday charts, thanks to Dave Taylor (daverictaylor@yahoo.co.uk). This week, we have the latest album chart, film and DVD charts, the most up to date singles chart in Britain, all back to back, with a look back to March 1992.

 

So here are this week`s albums...

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01 01 ROCKFERRY - DUFFY

02 NE DREAMING OUT LOUD - ONE REPUBLIC

03 04 ALL THE RIGHT REASONS - NICKELBACK

04 NE FLOORFILLERS 08 - VARIOUS

05 03 BACK TO BLACK - AMY WINEHOUSE

06 06 BREAKDOWN 08-VERY BEST OF EUPHORIC DANCE - VARIOUS

07 NE MASSIVE R + B SPRING COLLECTION 08 - VARIOUS

08 08 MASH UP MIX 08 - VARIOUS

09 07 SOUND OF BASSLINE - VARIOUS

10 05 SEVENTH TREE - GOLFRAPP

11 NE ORACULAR SPECTACULAR - MGMT

12 25 SPIRIT - LEONA LEWIS

13 12 THRILLER 25 - MICHAEL JACKSON

14 10 VERSION - MARK RONSON

15 14 THIS IS THE LIFE - AMY MACDONALD

16 11 LIFE IN CARTOON MOTION - MIKA

17 08 19 - ADELE

18 16 GOOD GIRL GONE BAD - RIHANNA

19 13 CALL ME IRRESPONSIBLE - MICHAEL BUBLE

20 02 DIG LAZURUS DIG - NICK CAVE/BAD SEEDS

 

The albums, are swamped with dance compilations, pushing the TEMPTATIONS, GET CAPE WEAR CAPE FLY, and YOUNG KNIVES and HERCULES/LOVE AFFAIR to the bottom, of the top 30.

 

Meanwhile, back in 1992...

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01 02 DIVINE MADNESS - MADNESS

02 01 TEARS ROLL DOWN - TEARS FOR FEARS

03 03 STARS - SIMPLY RED

04 NE AFTER HOURS - GARY MOORE

05 NE GOING BLANK AGAIN - RIDE

06 NE SOUL EMOTION - VARIOUS

07 04 HORMONALLY YOURS - SHAKESPEARS SISTER

08 05 SEVEN - JAMES

09 NE DOPPELGANGER - CURVE

10 08 HIGH ON THE HAPPY SIDE - WET WET WET

11 09 ULTIMATE HARDCORE - VARIOUS

12 NE TECHNOSTATE - VARIOUS

13 NE WOODFACE - CROWDED HOUSE

14 22 ACTUNG BABY - U2

15 11 HEAVENLY HARDCORE - VARIOUS

16 16 REAL LOVE - LISA STANSFIELD

17 13 FROM THE HEART - ELVIS PRESLEY

18 12 SIMPLY THE BEST - TINA TURNER

19 14 TENDER LOVE-17 ROMANTIC LOVE SONGS - VARIOUS

20 24 NEVER MIND - NIRVANA

 

A lot of long-stayers in the top 20 albums in 1992, with the return of MADNESS, dethroning other 80s favourites TEARS FOR FEARS (coincidently compared to ONE REPUBLIC, 16 years on). CROWDED HOUSE and WOODFACE contained the single "WEATHER WITH YOU"...."Walking round the room, singing Stormy Weather, at 57 Mount Pleasant Street, etc"...SHAKESPEARS SISTER`s album contained the smash hit single "STAY", featuring one ex-member of BANANARAMA. At this point there were a lot of left overs from Valentines Day, still hanging in, with ELVIS, and also the TENDER LOVE comp. The Hardcore series, was also doing well...the Brits, pushed NIRVANA and also U2 back up the chart, and whatever happened to RIDE, and CURVE? They both released E.P. singles, as well as these 2 albums.

 

Who remembers the singles chart in 92?

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01 01 STAY - SHAKESPEARS SISTER

02 02 I LOVE YOUR SMILE - SHANICE

03 05 AMERICA: WHAT TIME IS LOVE - KLF

04 03 MY GIRL - TEMPTATIONS

05 NE HUMAN TOUCH - BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN

06 09 WEATHER WITH YOU - CROWDED HOUSE

07 06 IT`S A FINE DAY - OPUS III

08 07 ONE - U2

09 04 NOVEMBER RAIN - GUNS N` ROSES

10 12 COME AS YOU ARE - NIRVANA

11 24 TEARS IN HEAVEN - ERIC CLAPTON

12 31 TO BE WITH YOU - MR BIG

13 NE FINALLY - CE CE PENNISTON

14 28 DEEPER LOVE - CLIVILLES AND COLE

15 13 I KNOW - NEW ATLANTIC

16 08 IT MUST BE LOVE - MADNESS

17 34 WE ARE EACH OTHER - BEAUTIFUL SOUTH

18 30 TIME TO MAKE YOU MINE - LISA STANSFIELD

19 11 I`M DOIN` FINE NOW - PASADENAS

20 23 FEELS LIKE FOREVER - JOE COCKER

21 22 PLACES THAT BELONG TO YOU - BARBRA STRIESAND

22 19 MAKE IT ON MY OWN - ALISON LIMERICK

23 10 THOUGH I`D DIED AND GONE TO HEAVEN - BRYAN ADAMS

24 NE DEEPLY DIPPY - RIGHT SAID FRED

25 NE MORE THAN LOVE - WET WET WET

26 32 STEAL YOUR FIRE - GUN

27 35 RAVE GENERATOR - TOXIC TWO

28 16 FOR YOUR BABIES - SIMPLY RED

29 41 WE`VE GOT TO LIVE TOGETHER/WE GONNA GET - RAF

30 NE DO NOT PASS ME BY - HAMMER

31 49 LIFT EVERY VOICE (TAKE ME AWAY) - MASS ORDER

32 17 THE ONLY LIVING BOY IN NEW YORK - EVERYTHING BUT THE GIRL

33 NE SWEET HARMONY - LIQUID

34 14 DRAGGING ME DOWN - INSPIRAL CARPETS

35 46 FAR GONE AND OUT - JESUS AND MARY CHAIN

36 40 EVERY KINDA PEOPLE - ROBERT PALMER

37 44 UNDER THE BRIDGE - RED HOT CHILLI PEPPERS

38 39 LOST IN YOUR LOVE - TONY HADLEY

39 36 COLOUR MY LIFE - M. PEOPLE

40 15 REMEMBER THE TIME - MICHAEL JACKSON

 

1992, was the final full year, of DAVID JENSEN and the NETWORK CHART (Being repaced in Aug 93, with NEIL FOX, and the PEPSI CHART, and nothing to do with the NETWORK CHART origins). This was the 5th week at the top for SHAKESPEARS SISTER, and the rather scary video! That kept SHANICE and the MOTOWN label, off the top totally. THE TEMPTATIONS are back in the album chart, this week, but in 92, a re-issue from the MacCauley Culkin film, was at last a UK hit. MADNESS were back in the singles, with a re-issue of a 1981 top 5 hit. OPUS III, told us that it was "Gonna be a fine day today, and a fine day tomorrow"....MR BIG were on their way to a MRIB number one. The chart was a mixed bag all round, with NIRVANA, JOE COCKER and BARBRA STRIESAND. Could WET WET WET follow up, a number one with MORE THAN LOVE? Nope, all they achieved with this was number 19, which of course came from the album HIGH ON THE HAPPY SIDE. NEW ATLANTIC, TOXIC TWO, and LIQUID supplied us, with what was left of the "rave" scene. JESUS AND MARY CHAIN were well supported by NME in the 80s, and early 90s, but by now the hits were drying up...The late ROBERT PALMER supplied us with another re-issue (from 1978). TONY HADLEY went solo, from SPANDAU BALLET, It was first time around for the CHILLIS, and MICHAEL JACKSON, fell a massive 25 places!! Meanwhile outside the 40, so did the WEDDING PRESENT at 43, with THREE (their 3rd release, in 3 months, because they released a single every month, for the whole of 92....anyone collect them alll?

 

Back up to date, with this week`s films...

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01 NE VANTAGE POINT

02 NE THE OTHER BOLEYN GIRL

03 NE THE GAME PLAN

04 01 THE BANK JOB

05 04 THE ACCIDENTAL HUSBAND

06 03 JUMPER

07 06 BE KIND REWIND

08 05 JUNO

09 NE SEMI PRO

10 07 THERE WILL BE BLOOD

 

Lots of new films this week, and very good too.

 

Here are the off-line dvd rentals...

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01 NE SAW IV

02 NE RENDITION

03 01 STARDUST

04 04 RUN FAT BOY RUN

05 06 THE BRAVE ONE

06 NE THE INVASION

07 07 MR BROOKES

08 NE THE HEARTBREAK KID

09 09 THE KINGDOM

10 08 RATATOUILLE

 

The big finish coming....but how are we doing on the physicals, and downloads alone? Well, the top 5 physicals are 1) LEONA, 2) DUFFY, 3) H TWO 0, 4) ONE REPUBLIC, 5) TAIO CRUZ...The download top 5 thus, 1) DUFFY, 2) ONE REPUBLIC, 3) LEONA, 4) FLO RIDA, 5) ALPHABEAT.

 

Here comes the combined singles, and download top 50, the most up to date chart, in Britain...

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50 NE RUN - GNARLS BARKLEY *

49 NE GONNA BE MINE - T2/ADDICTIVE *

48 44 CALL THE SHOTS - GIRLS ALOUD

47 51 TIME TO PRETEND - MGMT

46 50 TAKE YOU THERE - SEAN KINGSTON *

45 41 RELAX - MIKA

44 40 ELVIS AIN`T DEAD - SCOUTING FOR GIRLS

43 45 BLEEDING LOVE - LEONA LEWIS

42 NE CHURCH - T-PAIN

41 33 SUPERSTAR - LUPE FIASCO

 

40 34 NO ONE - ALICIA KEYS

39 22 THOUGHT IT WAS OVER - FEELING

38 35 RIDE IT - JAY SEAN

37 NE LONELY BOUY - JOE LEAN

36 24 A & E - GOLDFRAPP

35 46 YOUNG LOVE - MYSTERY JETS/LAURA MARLING

34 26 RULE THE WORLD - TAKE THAT

33 15 AFTER HOURS - WE ARE SCIENTISTS

32 21 VALERIE - RONSON/WINEHOUSE

31 NE I SHALL OVERCOME - HARD-FI

 

30 27 CRANK THAT - SOULJA BOY

29 25 PIECE OF ME - BRITNEY SPEARS

28 23 JUST FOR TONIGHT - ONE NIGHT ONLY

27 28 MY DESTINY - DELINQUENT

26 29 APOLOGISE - ONE REPUBLIC

25 16 GREAT DJ - TING TINGS

24 18 WORK - KELLY ROWLAND

23 08 US AGAINST THE WORLD - WESTLIFE

22 48 CASSIUS - FOALS

21 13 CHASING PAVEMENTS - ADELE

 

20 12 SUN GOES DOWN - DAVID JORDAN

19 09 WOW - KYLIE MINOGUE

18 31 BEGINNING OF THE TWIST - FUTUREHEADS

17 NE GROUNDS FOR DIVORCE - ELBOW

16 38 DENIAL - SUGABABES *

15 20 CAN`T SPEAK FRENCH - GIRLS ALOUD *

14 17 WITH YOU - CHRIS BROWN

13 11 DON`T STOP THE MUSIC - RIHANNA

12 19 SCREAM - TIMBALAND/HILSON/SCHWERZINGER

11 06 NOW YOU`RE GONE - BASSHUNTER

 

10 NE 9 IN THE AFTERNOON - PANIC AT THE DISCO *

09 14 SOMETHING GOOD 08 - UTAH SAINTS VS VAN SHE *

08 07 COME ON GIRLS - TAIO CRUZ

07 10 LOW - FLO RIDA *

06 05 FASCINATION - ALPHABEAT

05 03 ROCKSTAR - NICKELBACK

04 02 WHAT`S IT GONNA BE - H TWO 0

03 04 STOP AND STARE - ONE REPUBLIC

02 01 MERCY - DUFFY

01 30 FOOTPRINTS IN THE SAND/BETTER IN TIME (ALL SINGLE/DOWNLOAD VERSIONS) - LEONA LEWIS

 

* Denotes download only available

 

LEONA takes the top, in the top 50. Selling 900 more than Duffy. All versions, plus the download of FOOTPRINTS listed together here. For the simple reason, that how can you tell, which song is being bought/played physically? You can`t buy a physical version, without the other side. Will it top, the Official chart? Probabably not, because of the almost understandable rule, they have! PANIC AT THE DISCO, come from nowhere, is that the next number one, at number 10? As WE ARE SCIENTISTS plummet this week, it just coincidently has the same title, as the 1992 album, by GARY MOORE! Outside the 50 this week are, two umbrellas...with the MANICS at 51, and the RIHANNA/JAY Z version is 53...turning GABRIELLA CILMI into an umbrella sandwich, at 52!!, meanwhile the WOMBATS go down to 54, and SCOUTING FOR GIRLS reclaim a top 60 place, with SHE`S SO LOVELY.

 

Don`t forget Next Week`s Chart, here on Monday, when we will once again, get out our crystal ball...this week, when compared to today, we had the top 5, spot on!

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01 01 STAY - SHAKESPEARS SISTER

 

My favourite song of the year, and the video scared the pants of me, when I first saw it

 

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On a further note regaring next week's #1

 

I don't think Panic will be the next #1, I think it will hit top 3 at the beginning of the week, but it will trail off by the end of the week to around 5 or 6. We should be seeing a lot of deadwood leaving the top 10

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My favourite song of the year, and the video scared the pants of me, when I first saw it

 

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On a further note regaring next week's #1

 

I don't think Panic will be the next #1, I think it will hit top 3 at the beginning of the week, but it will trail off by the end of the week to around 5 or 6. We should be seeing a lot of deadwood leaving the top 10

What are your feelings on Leona, Mart!n? Do you think that the OCC, should also, list the lot together? It looks very like, she will lose out by the seperation of OCC, by around 2,000+!!

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What are your feelings on Leona, Mart!n? Do you think that the OCC, should also, list the lot together? It looks very like, she will lose out by the seperation of OCC, by around 2,000+!!

 

 

They should combine the whole lot together in my opinion, saves a lot of pain explaining the rules to every Tom, Dick and Harry, every 5 minutes. :lol:

Haha at Mart!ns post lol

 

But like many people have said if they were to count the whole lot together then artists may as well release the whole album as a single :lol: then they will have like 12 number 1's in one go! (Not to that extent but you catch my drift yeah?? lol)

w/k ending 21st Mar 2008

01 NE SAW IV

02 NE RENDITION

03 01 STARDUST

04 04 RUN FAT BOY RUN

05 06 THE BRAVE ONE

06 NE THE INVASION

07 07 MR BROOKES

08 NE THE HEARTBREAK KID

09 09 THE KINGDOM

10 08 RATATOUILLE

 

 

 

Do you know What the sales are of at least the Top 5?? - If not no worries! :) Thanks!

 

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Haha at Mart!ns post lol

 

But like many people have said if they were to count the whole lot together then artists may as well release the whole album as a single :lol: then they will have like 12 number 1's in one go! (Not to that extent but you catch my drift yeah?? lol)

Yeah but, how can the officials actually tell what side of said single, the public prefer? In our record shop on Tuesday....a couple came in saying "We must buy, Footsteps in the Sand, it`s a good charity single". Obviously, they prefer that side, of the single. If, to be fair, it was seperate on the chart, they would have to decipher how many preferred FOOTSTEPS, and how many preferred BETTER IN TIME!! How can that be deciphered? It can`t!!

 

Anyway, if you compare it to other famous double A sides, i.e ROD STEWART and I DON`T WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT/FIRST CUT IS THE DEEPEST...and you seperated sides, it would have denied ROD and anyone else, a number one!! Obviously, in the 50s and 60s, it was easy to seperate sides, because people, would have to go to the record shop, and ask for the title, over the counter. Definately, can`t be decided today.

 

If a fair option, was viable, then a double A, should maybe not allowed to be released. Why not put out 2 physicals, instead? But, that said, as the physical single, is practically finished anyway, it will obvious to tell which side is preferred, because singles, will soon be totally download.

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Did I actually post that post last night, I must have been well tired :blink: , I think the best idea is not to release double A sides no more, I can't see the point to be honest. As you said you might as well release 2 physical singles, but that will seem pointless, if both of them are for charity, as they only end up #1 and #2 and the week after #2 might knock the same artist of.
Yeah but, how can the officials actually tell what side of said single, the public prefer? In our record shop on Tuesday....a couple came in saying "We must buy, Footsteps in the Sand, it`s a good charity single". Obviously, they prefer that side, of the single. If, to be fair, it was seperate on the chart, they would have to decipher how many preferred FOOTSTEPS, and how many preferred BETTER IN TIME!! How can that be deciphered? It can`t!!

 

Anyway, if you compare it to other famous double A sides, i.e ROD STEWART and I DON`T WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT/FIRST CUT IS THE DEEPEST...and you seperated sides, it would have denied ROD and anyone else, a number one!! Obviously, in the 50s and 60s, it was easy to seperate sides, because people, would have to go to the record shop, and ask for the title, over the counter. Definately, can`t be decided today.

 

If a fair option, was viable, then a double A, should maybe not allowed to be released. Why not put out 2 physicals, instead? But, that said, as the physical single, is practically finished anyway, it will obvious to tell which side is preferred, because singles, will soon be totally download.

Good point though Trevs. Just thinking about Rod Stwart if it was possible to seperate Rod`s single then, the Sex Pistols could not have been denied a number one :yahoo:

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Did I actually post that post last night, I must have been well tired :blink: , I think the best idea is not to release double A sides no more, I can't see the point to be honest. As you said you might as well release 2 physical singles, but that will seem pointless, if both of them are for charity, as they only end up #1 and #2 and the week after #2 might knock the same artist of.

There was a case of that happening in January 1963. When on EMI`s own compiled chart, they listed all double A sides seperately. Cliff Richard knocked his self off, when the Next Time, was replaced by Bachelor Boy!!

Thanks trevs!

 

It's a bit unfair on all the other songs in the chart that MRIB have amalgamated sales of the CD and downloads of both BIT / FITS for Leona Lewis. If the official chart was to follow this we'd end up with double or probably quadruple A sides for every single.

 

The OCC rule is quite straightforward, physical singles can be double A sides but the only downloads that will be linked to the physical product / digital bundles will be downloads of the main track, which must be nominated in advance.

 

Over the years I can only think of 3 records that may have encountered problems with this rule as the main song changed, in all three cases after Christmas - Last Christmas to Everything She Wants in 1984, When I Fall In Love to My Arms Keep Missing You in 1987 and Heartbeat to Tragedy in 1998. That won't happen again, at least not with sales of the single boosting the position of the other download.

 

It probably happened before 1984, certainly Reason To Believe had charted and flipped to Maggie May on week 3 but it was never a decision made in advance to flip, as happened with those three records above.

I read somewhere else that in 86, Lulu had both copies of her Shout song listed as one on the Radio 1 chart. So why the sudden decision of the Leona saga?
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I read somewhere else that in 86, Lulu had both copies of her Shout song listed as one on the Radio 1 chart. So why the sudden decision of the Leona saga?

It`s certainly true about Lulu. Then, back further in September 1969. they listed 2 record labels, versions of the same banned record "Je`taime Moi Non Plus" seperately. This was exactly the same song, but one was on the Major Minor label, after Fontana, dropped it. All other charts, apart from that of Radio one, listed them together. A very similar story, with Ms Lewis.

The combing of both versions of Shout isn't the same as the Leona decision. Chart rules allow for sales alternate versions of the same song to be combined. Here MRIB have combined download sales of two different songs, effectively giving Leona an advantage. If this rule was applied in the OCC chart then every act would start issuing double, treble or even quadruple A sided CD singles and the chart would turn into a farce.

Panic At The Disco will be #3 I think next week.

Utah Saints top 5. Sugababes and GA will be between 6-10 but I think GA will be higher.

Thanks trevs!

 

It's a bit unfair on all the other songs in the chart that MRIB have amalgamated sales of the CD and downloads of both BIT / FITS for Leona Lewis. If the official chart was to follow this we'd end up with double or probably quadruple A sides for every single.

 

The OCC rule is quite straightforward, physical singles can be double A sides but the only downloads that will be linked to the physical product / digital bundles will be downloads of the main track, which must be nominated in advance.

 

Over the years I can only think of 3 records that may have encountered problems with this rule as the main song changed, in all three cases after Christmas - Last Christmas to Everything She Wants in 1984, When I Fall In Love to My Arms Keep Missing You in 1987 and Heartbeat to Tragedy in 1998. That won't happen again, at least not with sales of the single boosting the position of the other download.

 

It probably happened before 1984, certainly Reason To Believe had charted and flipped to Maggie May on week 3 but it was never a decision made in advance to flip, as happened with those three records above.

 

2 other significant problems that would have occurred:

 

1. Boney M - Rivers Of Babylon / Brown Girl In The Ring in 1978 (ROB was initially popular, but then BGITR gained airplay and became the more popular song)

 

2. Kraftwerk - Computer Love / The Model in 1981/82 (apparently the lead track kept switching)

 

Yeah but, how can the officials actually tell what side of said single, the public prefer? In our record shop on Tuesday....a couple came in saying "We must buy, Footsteps in the Sand, it`s a good charity single". Obviously, they prefer that side, of the single. If, to be fair, it was seperate on the chart, they would have to decipher how many preferred FOOTSTEPS, and how many preferred BETTER IN TIME!! How can that be deciphered? It can`t!!

 

Anyway, if you compare it to other famous double A sides, i.e ROD STEWART and I DON`T WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT/FIRST CUT IS THE DEEPEST...and you seperated sides, it would have denied ROD and anyone else, a number one!! Obviously, in the 50s and 60s, it was easy to seperate sides, because people, would have to go to the record shop, and ask for the title, over the counter. Definately, can`t be decided today.

 

If a fair option, was viable, then a double A, should maybe not allowed to be released. Why not put out 2 physicals, instead? But, that said, as the physical single, is practically finished anyway, it will obvious to tell which side is preferred, because singles, will soon be totally download.

 

I dont know! I understand about how can they tell which would be more popular etc... but i think because better in time was the song that did better coming UP TO the physical date, then i think they went by that one! But i really dont have a clue! lol

 

2 other significant problems that would have occurred:

 

1. Boney M - Rivers Of Babylon / Brown Girl In The Ring in 1978 (ROB was initially popular, but then BGITR gained airplay and became the more popular song)

 

2. Kraftwerk - Computer Love / The Model in 1981/82 (apparently the lead track kept switching)

I completely forgot about the Boney M single! That was a genuine case of the public picking up on the flip side and beginning to buy the record for that song. Some reports at the time stated that people who had bought Rivers Of Babylon went out and bought it again as they didn't realise that BGITR was on the B side but instead thought it was the new single - many people just never bothered playing the B side of a single and presumably didn't know they already owned the song... And the Kraftwerk single - yes, that would be a problem. The Model was always the more popular side but on its initial chart entry Kraftwerk were trying to promote Computer Love. However, The Model grew in popularity and eventually the single recharted with that as the main track but the billing mentioned Computer Love too. I'd guess a reissue would be the only way that could be dealt with now.

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The combing of both versions of Shout isn't the same as the Leona decision. Chart rules allow for sales alternate versions of the same song to be combined. Here MRIB have combined download sales of two different songs, effectively giving Leona an advantage. If this rule was applied in the OCC chart then every act would start issuing double, treble or even quadruple A sided CD singles and the chart would turn into a farce.

But in that case so is the Official Chart. If some people are buying Leona, for Footsteps, even the physical sides should be seperate. This taken into account when combining the physical double A also gives Leona a number 2 spot, but in the case of song titles she shouldn`t even be as high as no. 2.

But in that case so is the Official Chart. If some people are buying Leona, for Footsteps, even the physical sides should be seperate. This taken into account when combining the physical double A also gives Leona a number 2 spot, but in the case of song titles she shouldn`t even be as high as no. 2.

 

Whether you agree or not (and you are never going to please everyone) then there has to be rules for this contingency

 

There is no way of seperating physical releases, that's just daft

 

 

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