Gosh, I am a bit sad for how this all turned out and also seeing the backlash Geri is getting for wearing white and cutting her fringe on Spice Circle...

 

You know what, this project wasnt perfect at all and personally I thought it was just a pointless exercise by a rich, white pop star who has nothing better to do.

 

I have staved off this thread for a while and also from the project as a whole after the first few videos, but I also initially contributed to the backlash without realising how much it would grow to be so nasty.

 

For that, I am sorry and will refrain from the criticism once raised at her as a whole.

 

I think it was a mix of feeling let down that she cancelled the international tour and all the plans they had for after the 2019 tour, feeling dissapointed that she instead chose to do something as pointless and ego-centric as the Rainbow Woman series AND the fact that she is a perfectly happy voting tory and supporting a neo-fascist like Boris Johnson...

 

I am not really a supporter, specially since her music hasnt been that great - in my opinion - and I do think her ego gets in the way of her talents. And I will never, ever forgive her for the Tory and Brexit support. But I also dont understand or stand by all the hate that she gets or has been getting recently.

 

Some of the stuff on Spice Circle is literally vile. Like, comment on the quality of the music she puts out, that's fine. Comment on how she could do better? That is fine... Comment on her politics? That's fine (she does it herself a lot, so why shouldnt we....)...

 

But literally being nasty for the sake of being nasty whenever she wears white again or has a hair cut? Please....

Edited January 27, 20214 yr by Mr.X

The wearing white is an issue though whether we just be nice and pretend it's not happening or not. Her last tv interview they actually asked her why she only wears white (to which she gave a very dodgy answer). It's obviously a choice she is making and it is a statement in a way so people are reacting to it.

 

I think the hair cut looks nice it's just she is wearing a dress that looks like she is starring in a period drama with it. I think I can take and understand just about anything she does bar the constantly wearing white, it's just weird.

Edited January 27, 20214 yr by sammy01

Yup I agree with everything. Some comments are hideous.

From my perspective, in recent years, Geri skirts around politics and makes quite general and on the fence comments, that doesn’t show firm support in either direction. She hasn’t outright said anything that firmly endorses or campaigns for conservatives or Brexit (not in the public eye, at least, and that’s all we have to go off). It’s only assumptions. From what I remember, her only comments about Brexit was a desire for the UK to be less divided (very idealistic!) and to support Theresa as a female. Is this enough to prove that Geri supported and voted to leave? At the time of these comments, it was regarding Theresa’s attempts to get a “good deal”. To me it seems like a typical Spice Girls soundbite to express support for a woman. If there was ever a female Labour prime minister I really would like to think that Geri would also express positive sentiments in that scenario.

 

I feel like I can’t hold anything against Geri specifically purely based on assumptions. At least not without holding the other girls to the same level of scrutiny and accountability! The other 4 are not extremely political. Three of them are quite vague or don’t even talk about it. Emma uttered the surprisingly controversial “people power” slogan (which I really feel was misconstrued, and I believe was just intended as a Spice Girls-esque positive/equality comment). Mel B excused herself from talking about Brexit by saying she “doesn’t live (in the UK)”. She does now, but I bet she’ll never be drawn into talking about politics, which does seem a little unusual for a Northerner. My perspective of Victoria re: Brexit is that the support she expressed to remain was quite possibly damage control. I feel like she’d not have said anything if her past comments didn’t resurface, and she had a brand & public image to protect. I mean, she quite literally didn’t say anything before she had to. So I think she doesn’t like to be political unless her hand is forced.

 

Honestly I think if we want examples of celebrities being unabashedly political, we couldn’t rely on any of the Spice Girls for that. Even Melanie C, who is certainly the most forthright that she is a Labour supporter, is still quite careful with what she says.

As for the “all white” clothing & her insistence that “it makes things easier, it’s like a uniform”... I admittedly do find it kind of odd, particularly when she’s out and about in the muddy countryside... but eh, it doesn’t particularly matter. I guess it’s just the latest in a long line of quirky and unusual Geri logic. I certainly wouldn’t write offensive things regarding it to her social media or on groups!

As for the “all white” clothing & her insistence that “it makes things easier, it’s like a uniform”... I admittedly do find it kind of odd, particularly when she’s out and about in the muddy countryside... but eh, it doesn’t particularly matter. I guess it’s just the latest in a long line of quirky and unusual Geri logic. I certainly wouldn’t write offensive things regarding it to her social media or on groups!

 

I think the wearing all white is off putting, that's the main problem. Rainbow Woman is I'm not sure but trying to show different sides to Geri? But it fails if these different things, like driving tanks, she does in pure white. Then instead of it seeming like she is getting properly stuck in it seems like she is doing it while trying to portray a certain image.

 

I personally think the all white thing is her biggest problem. Take the tank driving episode if she had done it in full army gear and got properly stuck in I think it would have been much more relatable and fun.

 

It's like she is completely torn between being the fun and creative Geri that is still in there and maintaining this image and posh act she has going and they just don't mesh in any way. I'm not saying she needs to wear a boob tube but she can dress appropriately for activities and appear to properly engage in them more then.

Edited January 27, 20214 yr by sammy01

Sorry but I couldnt care less about the all-white thing. It's her own style and it doesnt really bother me at all. So what if she wears all white? Who the hell cares, if she feels comfortable and happy with it?

We don't have to buy those clothes and we certainly wont be the ones wearing them...

 

Just think that people should be judged on their merit of creative output and how well they do at it, not on how they dress. No-one bloody comments on rock stars wearing black all the time, do they? :huh: Yes it is different and a 'Geri quirk' but let's stop making such a big fuss over it? It certainly doesn't warrent the 'it's so odddd' or 'she lost it' type of comments on her persona...

 

When it comes to Politics, I am afraid she hasnt been that 'vague' about things at all. Whilst the others have lent support for specific campaigns such as Remain and lately Mel C's support for the music industry to get COVID19-support that Boris refuses to give, Geri has consistently come out in favour of right wing politics, from Thatcher, to Churchill, she even campaigned, supported and worked with David Cameron's gov (literally), and then whilst being quiet on Brexit until after the vote itself, she then supported Theresa May and her quest for Brexit. It didnt sound like a 'feminism' approach to me at all, just blind support for a right-wing politition like she had done with the ones mentioned here. Then, she supported Boris.

 

This is also coming from a woman who smeared - together with Victoria - the UK's relationship with the EU back in the 90s.

 

Im sorry, but I dont think you can frame all of this out of her support for the right-wing politics, and every single one of the politicians mentioned here have done irreparable damage to the country and its people. Boris is a neo-fascist, and Theresa May implemented an anti-immigrant policy that has resulted in so much racism, xenophobia and death.

 

With all of that said, I give her the benefit of doubt as I am sure she herself is not a facist. She is just a white upper middle class rich woman living in the English country side who has drank the 'Rule Britannia' nationalism throughout her life, even if she doesnt mean it in a violent way.

 

That doesnt mean the vile comments across the web are justified. They are not. We can hold our idols to account without so much crap, really. Maybe if we do that, Geri would actually listen to what some of her actions can cause...

In a world of insta and influencers the way Geri dresses and how she portrays herself are far more important than her political leanings to the general public.

 

 

In a world of insta and influencers the way Geri dresses and how she portrays herself are far more important than her political leanings to the general public.

 

I wouldnt be so sure about it. Geri is not an influencer.

 

Nonetheless, even if that was the case, it doesnt make it right does it?

Boris is not a facist and Geri has every right to support whichever party she feels like. You shouldn't attack her for her views & beliefs as long as they are legal & legitimate, which they perfectly are. :rolleyes:

 

Oh, and there's no need to constantly mention her white race. She doesn't have to apologize for it.

Edited January 27, 20214 yr by Voodoo

I don’t get this obsession with what celebrities wear or who they support and what they align themselves with. We live in a democracy not a dictatorship. Whenever Geri has spoken about something politically it’s always been cherry picked she’s never said ‘I agree with everything Thatcher has ever done”. Geri does put her foot in things but I think a lot of what she says gets misconstrued sometimes.

 

Victoria and David were pro EU and they’re no different to Geri really, they fly abroad during the middle of a pandemic and are multi-millionaires with multiple homes with no worries of what the real world is like and what people go through, but I love Geri and Victoria because they are spice girls (faults and all)

 

And as for the Geri bashing, which is very often on Spice circle, it’s rather off putting as a fan.

Edited January 27, 20214 yr by Spice Girls Net

Geri was part of Tony Blair's Labour releaction campaign taking part in an advert and lending her support to them, so we certainly can't assume based on her comments she is a Tory. What did she do with David Cameron? I wasn't aware of her promoting his campaign?

Im not about to go into a discussion on why Boris Johnson is a neo-fascist (please be aware I did not call him a straight up fascist), but I can if the conversation continues to in that direction (though I am not sure this is really where we want to go here)...

 

When it comes to Geri's political stances and activism, it is very clear she is a tory and continues to support the party. I would say that she is also very much for working with the Gov of the time.

 

She supported Tony Blair at the time - like many tories did - and Tony Blair was tory-light. He said it himself, that it was his job to continue the previous Tory Gov's agenda. So let's not say that Geri all of a sudden campaigned for a left-wing socialist lol

 

I don't really understand why everyone tries to cover up or justify her political stances as something other than she herself has made clear lol

About the white wearing - please lets move on. We are all grown ups and really, life is too short!

I can't at gay men getting upset over what a woman wears. Who cares if Geri likes to wear white. A man telling a woman what to wear is sexist. How do Spice Girls fans don't get this?

People love to throw words around like sexist, get a grip. I love Hugh Jackman but if he was constantly wearing white and riding tanks or doing gardening wearing white I'd think it was ridiculous and odd.

 

Geri can wear what she likes doesn't mean it can't be judged as odd or impractical. There are reasons people don't garden or drive tanks in white clothes it is completely impractical and most sane people will think it bizarre.

To be fair it’s really not just gay men remarking on her fashion choices. I mean, she was outright asked about it in a TV interview, by a female presenter. Geri’s all white clothing for the past 2-3 years is “different” enough behaviour that the tabloids remark on it, and the general public definitely comment on it.

 

Yes of course it’s not a huge deal in the scheme of things, it’s her choice, but it is undeniably fairly eccentric of her (particularly as countryside attire) and I don’t think commenting on it is a big deal. It doesn’t appear that Geri cares at all anyway!

It also isn't she wears white it is she wears white ALL THE TIME even when it makes no sense to. No one would bat an eyelid if she just wore white when dressing up but it's also her baking, gardening, tank driving attire too.

 

Trust me I'm a gardener the last colour I'd wear working is white, I'd rather not destroy the environment trying to get muddy white clothes clean or throwing them away after one use.

People love to throw words around like sexist, get a grip. I love Hugh Jackman but if he was constantly wearing white and riding tanks or doing gardening wearing white I'd think it was ridiculous and odd.

 

Geri can wear what she likes doesn't mean it can't be judged as odd or impractical. There are reasons people don't garden or drive tanks in white clothes it is completely impractical and most sane people will think it bizarre.

Women are much more criticised for what they wear than men. Using Hugh Jackman as a comparison is disingenuous. All of this comes down to fans being upset Geri doesn't act or dress like she did 20 years ago, which shows how toxic some fans truly are.

Women are much more criticised for what they wear than men. Using Hugh Jackman as a comparison is disingenuous. All of this comes down to fans being upset Geri doesn't act or dress like she did 20 years ago, which shows how toxic some fans truly are.

 

This is putting words in other people's mouths. I don't think anyone is saying she should be dressing in a union jack dress or get her boobs out and to suggest that is you projecting on others.

 

Trust me she would be much more relatable to see her gardening in a pair of old jeans and a blue jumper or driving tanks in army gear like the girl instructing her did. If she wants people to watch her videos she needs to come across relatable, not odd.