Posted May 28, 200619 yr bbc 2 next week, after 1967, its 1976 which will be about a very long hot summer and other things so whats hot and whats not about this year?
May 28, 200619 yr the weather was very hot, year of the last major drought,didn't rain much at all from April to October,same could be said for some decent music as well, a serious void of anything remotely memorable :lol:
May 28, 200619 yr Author the weather was very hot, year of the last major drought,didn't rain much at all from April to October, thats the only thing the bbeb person said when they announced it. was it the start of punk or was that the year after? (got to many things running behind to stick wiki up :lol: :lol: )
May 28, 200619 yr . actually the rains came in the last week in september! lol, but the weather was the only good thing about '76, punk/new wave was still confined to clubs in london and the charts were probably the worst ever...
June 1, 200619 yr I remember Elton John & Kiki Dee being number one for weeks and weeks during that summer and being knocked off by ABBA's Dancing Queen . Ive just looked it up and they spent 6 weeks each at number one . Here are all the top ten hits during the summer of 76 (courtesy of everyhit.com) Rod Stewart -Tonight's The Night (Gonna Be Alright) Jun 1976 Real Thing -You To Me Are Everything Jun 1976 Shangri-Las -Leader Of The Pack Jun 1976 Bryan Ferry -Let's Stick Together Jun 1976 Manhattans -Kiss And Say Goodbye Jun 1976 Dorothy Moore -Misty Blue Jun 1976 Dr Hook -A Little Bit More Jun 1976 One Hundred Ton And A Feather -It Only Takes A Minute Jun 1976 Demis Roussos -The Roussos Phenomenon EP Jun 1976 Elton John & Kiki Dee -Don't Go Breaking My Heart Jul 1976 Queen -You're My Best Friend Jul 1976 Isley Brothers -Harvest For The World Jul 1976 Tavares -Heaven Must Be Missing An Angel Jul 1976 Jimmy James & The Vagabonds -Now Is The Time Jul 1976 Billie Jo Spears -What I've Got In Mind Jul 1976 5000 Volts -Dr Kiss Kiss Jul 1976 Johnny Wakelin -In Zaire Jul 1976 Notes David Dundas -Jeans On Jul 1976 Steve Harley -Here Comes The Sun Jul 1976 Chi-Lites -You Don't Have To Go Jul 1976 Bee Gees -You Should Be Dancing Jul 1976 Lou Rawls -You'll Never Find Another Love Like Mine Jul 1976 Stylistics -16 Bars Aug 1976 Bryan Ferry -Extended Play EP Aug 1976 Wings -Let 'Em In Aug 1976 Georghe Zamfir (The Light Of Experience) -Doina De Jale Aug 1976 Mr Acker Bilk - Aria Aug 1976 Tina Charles -Dance Little Lady Dance Aug 1976 Abba -Dancing Queen Aug 1976 Rod Stewart -The Killing Of Georgie (Parts 1 And 2) Aug 1976 Manfred Mann's Earth Band -Blinded By The Light Aug 1976 Pussycat Mississippi Aug 1976 Real Thing -Can't Get By Without You Sep 1976 Elvis Presley -The Girl Of My Best Friend Sep 1976 Rod Stewart -Sailing (re-entry) Sep 1976 Wurzels -I Am A Cider Drinker (Paloma Blanca) Sep 1976 Bay City Rollers -I Only Wanna Be With You Sep 1976 Rick Dees & His Cast Of Idiots -Disco Duck (Part One) Sep 1976 Ritchie Family -The Best Disco In Town Sep 1976 Sherbet -Howzat Sep 1976
June 2, 200619 yr Besides Dancing Queen it was a pretty poor chart year. No wonder punk happened and blew everything away.
June 2, 200619 yr One Hundred Ton And A Feather -It Only Takes A Minute Jun 1976 This was actually pervert Jonathan King in one of his diguises
June 2, 200619 yr Remember this year well,was 16.Mississippi was and still is one of my all time favourite songs.
June 2, 200619 yr But the Wurzels were in the charts?! Fab! '76 was the year Callaghan lost control of his government, which, let us not forget, gave Thatcher the ammunition she needed to oust Labour. An AWFUL year. And punk was created by McLaren and Vivienne Westwood..... and that genre spawned delights such as The Clash, Damned and Sex Pistols.
June 2, 200619 yr I recognise loads of those songs ( and I love a fair few of them :blush: ). I was on holiday at a caravan park in Oban that summer. I had a massive big pink and yellow sunhat and spent day after day building sandcastles on the beach. I was brown as a berry. I loved that time. :wub: I was too young to bother about the politics. :lol:
June 2, 200619 yr One Hundred Ton And A Feather -It Only Takes A Minute Jun 1976 This was actually pervert Jonathan King in one of his diguises Spend a couple of years at Maidstone nick, about 22 miles away from where I live
June 3, 200619 yr And punk was created by McLaren and Vivienne Westwood..... and that genre spawned delights such as The Clash, Damned and Sex Pistols. oh no it wasnt.... it has its roots in new york, and was already underground here before those oportunists hi-jacked the already running phenomena.. ok, it could be argued that macclaren was the one to promote punk, and westwood gave the clothing a helping hand, right time, right place n all.. but punk was happening and would have happend with or without them two... findingout Posted Yesterday, 03:31 PM " it was a pretty poor chart year. No wonder punk happened and blew everything away." spot on!
June 3, 200619 yr In 1975 most of the really big UK bands put out overblown concept albums that flopped badly. So in '76 the same bands crawled back with their tails between their legs with safe boring albums. The public wasn't fooled for one moment so a gap in the market occurred. This is how punk happened in the UK.
June 3, 200619 yr oh no it wasnt.... it has its roots in new york, and was already underground here before those oportunists hi-jacked the already running phenomena.. ok, it could be argued that macclaren was the one to promote punk, and westwood gave the clothing a helping hand, right time, right place n all.. but punk was happening and would have happend with or without them two... findingout Posted Yesterday, 03:31 PM " it was a pretty poor chart year. No wonder punk happened and blew everything away." spot on! oh yes it was. One of my pet hates is the yanks claiming punk as their own. The Ramones, Patti Smith, Tubes, Blondie and that whole CBGB scene was ROCK... it wasn't punk. And it was pretty awful rock at that. Of course, they hated it when the UK gave birth to REAL punk and then tried screaming about c**p like the Ramones... but punk was created in London - not NYC. Have a read of England's Dreaming (Jon Savage). The definitive punk hstory.
June 3, 200619 yr oh yes it was. One of my pet hates is the yanks claiming punk as their own. The Ramones, Patti Smith, Tubes, Blondie and that whole CBGB scene was ROCK... it wasn't punk. And it was pretty awful rock at that. Of course, they hated it when the UK gave birth to REAL punk and then tried screaming about c**p like the Ramones... but punk was created in London - not NYC. Have a read of England's Dreaming (Jon Savage). The definitive punk hstory. You missed Iggy Pop/The Stooges off that list, who, by the way, was a huge influence on Johnny Rotten (so much so that the Pistols covered Iggy's "No Fun") and all the other Punk Rockers in London. Blondie I've always seen as New Wave frankly, and I do not agree in any way that Patti Smith or The Ramones were 'awful', they are incredibly influential and inspirational bands, the direct, three-chord, no-nonsense style of The Ramones in particular formed the basis for The Damned's "New Rose" (which was the first UK Punk Rock single to be played on radio, by a certain Mr John Peel I do believe...); as were The New York Dolls (another band highly praised by the UK Punk movement....)... The UK certainly defined Punk Rock as a style in itself, but it was very much in the air in New York in the early/mid 70s. Iggy Pop objected to the term 'Punk' because of its negative connotations within the US Penal system... Jon Savage's book, while informative, is still only one man's opinion and is very much open to question and criticism....
June 3, 200619 yr Patti Smith's a genius - The Ramones are probably the most over-hyped and certainly the most overrated band of all time. Lad rock at its most unpalatable. New York Dolls.... I honestly can't see a single shred of connection with punk - again, they were a rock band - a glam rock band at that - miles removed from the gritty, dirty punk ethic. I love New York Dolls - Personality Crisis is one ofc my all-time faves, but to me they have more in common with the early Stones than anything else. And Iggy didn't actually coin the term 'punk', it was a term used by two Connecticut magazine publishers (Legs McNeil and John Holmstrom) who wanted to create a magazine featuring all the new up and coming bands. The first issue had Lou Reed as its cover artist in Christmas '75. However, it should be noted that at this time, Talking Heads and Television were considered 'punk' (?!) and the magazine floundered when it made several homophobic comments about Wayne County - it was abandoned by the then mainly gay punk followers and folded shortly after. Iggy's anarchic stage performances were legendary.... but I wouldn't lump him in witrh the punk movement, either. Let's be honest, Pop is a genre-whore, he'll jump on any new bandwagon and claim it as his own. When Iggy actiually visited 430 Kings Road, McLaren's shop, he was dismissed as an 'untidy hippy', remember, all long hair and flares - hardly a punk pioneer. His concerts in Britain in 1977 were notable only for Bowie's drugged-out presence on keyboards - and Pop's sudden health and fitness kick - he went down like a lead balloon with the die-hard UK punks who wanted blood and gob. By this time, of course, the Sex Pistols had been together for the best part of a year. New York, at the time, was livid that London was roaring ahead of them in terms of music and fashion, and they've never ever forgiven us - and the constant "We invented punk" cries from that whole rubbish CBGB rawknroll scene are laughable. NO you didn't invent punk - London did. Punk was a movement, a cultural phenomenon. Cultural phenomenon's rarely happen in the States anyway. Savage's book is based on hundreds of interviews with everyone (bar Westwood and obviously Vicious) who were actually THERE in 76/77, so I wouldn't dismiss it as merely one man's opinion.
June 3, 200619 yr Patti Smith's a genius - The Ramones are probably the most over-hyped and certainly the most overrated band of all time. Lad rock at its most unpalatable. New York Dolls.... I honestly can't see a single shred of connection with punk - again, they were a rock band - a glam rock band at that - miles removed from the gritty, dirty punk ethic. I love New York Dolls - Personality Crisis is one ofc my all-time faves, but to me they have more in common with the early Stones than anything else. And Iggy didn't actually coin the term 'punk', it was a term used by two Connecticut magazine publishers (Legs McNeil and John Holmstrom) who wanted to create a magazine featuring all the new up and coming bands. The first issue had Lou Reed as its cover artist in Christmas '75. However, it should be noted that at this time, Talking Heads and Television were considered 'punk' (?!) and the magazine floundered when it made several homophobic comments about Wayne County - it was abandoned by the then mainly gay punk followers and folded shortly after. Iggy's anarchic stage performances were legendary.... but I wouldn't lump him in witrh the punk movement, either. Let's be honest, Pop is a genre-whore, he'll jump on any new bandwagon and claim it as his own. When Iggy actiually visited 430 Kings Road, McLaren's shop, he was dismissed as an 'untidy hippy', remember, all long hair and flares - hardly a punk pioneer. His concerts in Britain in 1977 were notable only for Bowie's drugged-out presence on keyboards - and Pop's sudden health and fitness kick - he went down like a lead balloon with the die-hard UK punks who wanted blood and gob. By this time, of course, the Sex Pistols had been together for the best part of a year. New York, at the time, was livid that London was roaring ahead of them in terms of music and fashion, and they've never ever forgiven us - and the constant "We invented punk" cries from that whole rubbish CBGB rawknroll scene are laughable. NO you didn't invent punk - London did. Punk was a movement, a cultural phenomenon. Cultural phenomenon's rarely happen in the States anyway. Savage's book is based on hundreds of interviews with everyone (bar Westwood and obviously Vicious) who were actually THERE in 76/77, so I wouldn't dismiss it as merely one man's opinion. I never said Iggy Pop coined the term, I said he objected to it being called that. And just because The Ramones are not to your personal liking does not make them 'overhyped' or mean that they were not an important influence at all, they are Proto-Punk Rock pioneeers. They and The Stooges were to Punk what bands like Faith No More and the Chili Peppers were to Nu Metal - the spark which created the flame... I go on the evidence of my own ears, and when I hear songs like "I Wanne Be Your Dog" which is CLEARLY a punk rock song, it just wasn't referred to as such at the time, but it certainly didn't fit in with the Hippie or Psychadelic movments; and when I listen to what the Stooges and others did in the early 70s, I am not gonna just dismiss it out of hand because of however I may personally feel about America, the evidence is there to say that New York was instrumental in shaping the London scene, like it or not.... The New York Dolls' dirty style of playing and rather sleazy image is a thousand times removed from the 'brickies in mascara' of stuff like Slade or The Sweet, which is frankly fluff in comparison; Sid Vicious himself, clearly a fan, in one of his more lucid moments said "The New York Dolls..They wore make-up and they were nasty and they played dirty rock 'n' roll"). As for your final paragraph "cultural phenomenons rarely happen in the states", erm, the whole Counter-Culture, anti-Vietnam, Psychadelic, hippie, Haight-Ashbury, etc movement....? Without that, the possibility for Punk to actually come along would probably never have happened.... The way I look at it is, New York passed the ball, London booted it into the net. We scored the goal, but definitely got the assist from NY....
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