Rumour is the Nats may have sneaked it! :o

The SNP guy is doing a lot of celebrating, will look pretty stupid if he hasn't :lol:

If the SNP have won this it's absolutely astounding. Glasgow East is Scottish Labour heartland. :o

 

It's like Labour winning Henley on Thames :lol:

Edited July 24, 200816 yr by Jupiter9

Looks like the conservatives might finish 3rd :o and save their deposit, now that is a shock :lol:

That'll be the Mount Vernon vote! :P

Wish they'd hurry up! I have work tomorrow. :angry:

Calling for a re-count :o

A recount? :unsure:

 

Maybe it's not clear cut then :rolleyes:

 

 

Oh I'm off to bed. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Seems that the recount gave the SNP a slight bigger lead.

What a result, Labour's third safest seat in the UK.

JESUS!!!!! :cheer: :cheer: :cheer:

 

What a result for the SNP. And what a bloody nose for Gordon Broon this is :yahoo: ...... See, I told ya. The people of Scotland, if they're p!ssed off enough at a Westminster Govt, WILL deliver results like this, happened in '97, to the Tories, and clearly it's gonna happen again whenever the next GE will be, if I was a Scottish Nu Labor MP right now, I'd be checking out alternative sources of employment ... If ever there was a clear indication of the disillusionment with Broon and Nu Labor then this should be it... Broon is utterly FUKKED if Nu Labor cant hold a seat like Glasgow East...... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

 

I didn't stay up to watch the results and only read it when I came online.

 

It's absolutely astounding!

 

The Scots have always had a sense of community and fairness to the have nots. When politicians try to ride roughshod over that, the Scots nowadays use the ballot box rather than grab their claymores.

 

Mrs Thatcher was soundly trounced in the General Election in Scotland - I'd never known such a thirst to unseat every single MP of any party. The Poll Tax resistance which finally made Mrs Thatcher unelectable began in Scotland. IMHO, Europe was an issue for the party and a differentiator between Mrs T and Tarzan.

 

Gordon Brown should have a good think about what his party promised the people and make sure he and his cabinet are seen to be doing it during the rest of their term.

 

If Labour don't start delivering the goods to close the rich-poor divide and get a grip on crime, many more seats will fall, some in Scotland may even go to the Conservatives because Annabel Goldie's Conservatives are much more One Nation, the percepton being that they are more caring, than their English counterparts.

 

Where is the passion in either the cabinet or shadow cabinet? I despised Maggie and Norman Tebbit but at least they really believed in what they fought for.

Edited July 25, 200816 yr by Baytree

Defence Secretary Des Browne made me laugh on BBC Breakfast earlier. "Gordon Brown's the best person to be PM now and I think you'll find most people in the country think that too. :rolleyes:

Gordon Brown should have a good think about what his party promised the people and make sure he and his cabinet are seen to be doing it during the rest of their term.

 

If Labour don't start delivering the goods to close the rich-poor divide and get a grip on crime, many more seats will fall, some in Scotland may even go to the Conservatives because Annabel Goldie's Conservatives are much more One Nation, the percepton being that they are more caring, than their English counterparts.

 

I still wouldn't exactly trust Scottish Conservatives though.. There was a damn good reason why the Tories in Scotland were wiped out back in '97... I guess they might be mending their ways a bit and have learned somewhat from that scale of rejection, but still, I wouldn't vote for 'em... But I think this result for the SNP makes it pretty damn clear that the mood of the Scots has changed to one of pretty much demanding independance.. If Nu Labor is wiped out Tory-style in Scotland at the next GE and the beneficiaries are the SNP, that will be the message being made absolutely clear to Westminster....

 

There was a quite astonishing 22% swing to SNP, swings of this magnitude are virtually unheard of, esp in supposedly "safe" seats... If this repeated itself in a GE, then even Gordon Broon would be out of his seat..... :lol: Don't think that it couldn't happen....

Annabel Goldie reminds me of Shirley Williams, a sensible head and a safe pair of hands, a thinking politician. I still wouldn't vote for her party in a General Election.

 

I can't believe that the Tory party has mended its way. IMHO Mrs Thatcher is still the spectre at the feast. Until all of her generation of Tories have moved on, I don't think any leader will be allowed to really re-fashion the party.

Gordon Brown has to be careful.

 

Labour lost Dunfermline East to Lib Dem in the last Election in Fife (By-Election) i think Labour are screwed the SNP are unfortunately quite likely to get their wicked way at the next election :(

What a fantastic result! Haven't stopped smiling all day. :lol:

 

The SNP have been making inroads into the Central Scotland Labour heartlands for a few years but I really thought they would fall a wee bit short in this particular one. Labour are really starting to implode in Scotland. No leader, votes disappearing like there's no tomorrow.....

 

And the interesting thing is, this wasn't an anti-Gordon Brown vote. The pollsters last night said there was virtually no evidence of any personal dislike for GB in Glasgow East (unlike recent by-elections in England). This was an anti-Labour vote. Getting rid of GB is unlikely to bring the dis-enchanted Scottish Labour voters back to the fold.

 

The SNP are now the biggest party in Scottish Local Government, the biggest party at Holyrood and according to recent opinion polls have now overtaken Labour in Westminster voting intentions for the very first time. What we're seeing here isn't a short term protest vote against Gordon Brown. Labour's problems in Scotland run much much deeper than that. And I don't think the London based media quite grasp that fact.

 

Gordon Brown's problem is this. To win back the socialist Labour heartlands of Central Scotland he needs to adopt a very radical left of centre agenda. But if Labour policy greatly lurches to the left he loses the support of Nu-Labour voting Middle England. At the moment Labour are being squeezed from the right in England (by the Conservatives) and squeezed from the left in Scotland (by the SNP). To win in England he needs to 'Keep Right'. To win in Scotland he needs to 'Keep Left'. And never the twain shall meet! :P

I'm surprised they haven't thought about splitting the two, having a Scottish Labour in the mold of Old Labour and an English Labour that's more New Labour.