Posted July 17, 200817 yr Kooks Luke Pritchard: 'Pigeon Detectives Have Diluted British Indie Scene' NME.com 17 July 2008 Kooks frontman Luke Pritchard has said that bands like The Pigeon Detectives are responsible for diluting British indie music. Speaking to the Daily Star, Pritchard said that he no longer felt like he was part of the scene that was created in 2005. “When we first came out it was a cool time, with the Kaisers, Arctics and Bloc Party on the same circuit. “I don’t think many people would place us with those acts, but at the time I really felt part of that whole movement. “It’s funny what’s followed. Bands like The Pigeon Detectives took what was there and slightly diluted it.” The Kooks will head off on a US tour in September in support of their second album 'Konk'. The second single from the album, entitled 'Shine On', was released this month. Pot calling kettle black anyone?
July 17, 200817 yr Kind of hypocritical. The Pigeon Detectives are in the same vein as a lot of the other bands, are chances are they were signed to a label to captivate on the success of indie at that time, but sorry, as much as I like The Kooks, they were only signed because they were members of the Brit School so it's very hypocritical. I do think The Pigeon Detectives are a bit generic, and are one of the worse indie bands about at the moment, but they've done a few songs that i've really liked (especially their latest single).
July 17, 200817 yr Absolutely pot calling kettle black. The Kooks are the ultimate band to have diluted it if you ask me.
July 17, 200817 yr he can f*** off The Kooks are everything thats bad about British Indie, them and One Night Only.
July 17, 200817 yr The Kooks, Pigeon Detectives, The Enemy and One Night Only have all 'diluted the British Indie Scene'
July 17, 200817 yr The Kooks, Pigeon Detectives, The Enemy and One Night Only have all 'diluted the British Indie Scene' Yep they've diluted the 'Indie' scene alright on their small independant labels like Mercury and Warner Bros. :lol: Seriously could this possibly the most hypocritical comment of all time in music? :lol: I think it's possibly The success of The Kooks that started the sanitising of the market in the first place! Pigeon Detectives just continued that and now we've got lad rock bands like The Enemy and The Courteeners featuring half arsed Gallagher wannabes being hypocrites IN SONG! Yes Tom Clarke we're all tired of work but we don't live in posh houses like you :rolleyes: and with The Courteeners why slag off band sounding like The Libertines by doing it yourself? :lol: At least it spawned some good pop music from The Killers and Kaiser Chiefs and at least Arctics and Bloc have continued to be brilliant real indie bands. :) Be prepared, looks like the next market to overflow around here is American R&B :cry:
July 18, 200817 yr Kooks Luke Pritchard: 'Pigeon Detectives Have Diluted British Indie Scene' Pot calling kettle black anyone? Exactly what I was thinking... The Kooks represent the absolute WORST of what "indie" has become.. Pathetic, bland, uninspired indie-boy haircut bollocks, the Indie I remember - Shoe-gazer, Madchester, C86, Dreampop, Indie Rock, Boston scene, Seattle scene, 4AD, Rough Trade, Factory, etc - had a LOT of bloody character about it and far more willingness to experiment with sounds and different styles ("Indie Dance" for example...).... Frankly The Kooks make My Chemical Romance look like Pixies or Sonic Youth FFS..... Pigeon Detectives are no worse than anyone else out there.... Mind you, they aint really any better than anyone else either..... :lol:
July 18, 200817 yr You'ev all summed it up. The Kooks got lucky with the drabbest song in recent memory ('Naive') and spawned a stack of copyists themselves. The guy is a f***ing moron.
July 18, 200817 yr Author You'ev all summed it up. The Kooks got lucky with the drabbest song in recent memory ('Naive') and spawned a stack of copyists themselves. The guy is a f***ing moron. I totally agree. Still what do you expect from some t*** who went to the one of the Top 5 richest private schools at the same time as the equally fraudulant 21st Century indie charlatans Lily Allen (her latest blog post this week on why Margaret Thatcher is a heroine who richly deserves a Churchill style state funeral just sums up how stupid & imbecilic this daughter of top UK female film producer Alison Owen and comedian/writer/journalist Keith Allen, who makes Charlotte Church look like Michael Parkinson); & NME Editor Conor McNicholas (who have helped turned indie into a lowest common denominator genre of music when the NME should be promoting musically challengening alternative new music like Late & The Pier, Fleet Foxes, Noah & The Whale, etc instead of narrow minded commercial indie bollox by The Kooks, Pigeon Detectives, The Mighty Boosh & worshipping the ground that Pete Doherty walks on). Whatever your opinion of Eva Cassidy/Norah Jones wannabe Katie Melua you have to give her credit for dumping Luke "Prick-hard" after a 3 year relationship, presumably because his lack of musical adventure was holding her back.
July 18, 200817 yr Author Oh look what I've just found: Reverend slams rich indie teletext.co.uk Reverend And The Makers have accused British music of being dominated by "middle-class rich kids". Jon McClure told PS: "Against my better judgement, I was taken to a private members' club in London last week." He added: "I spotted Faris Rotter, a Klaxon and Peaches Geldof there. It was £12.50 a drink, I left immediately. That's British music for you - full of rich kids spending daddy's trust fund."
July 19, 200816 yr Hey TiP, where did you get the words to that article from? I lifted them from here for a news item on culturedeluxe and I've just had to phone Jon McClure myself to explain!
July 19, 200816 yr Author Hey TiP, where did you get the words to that article from? I lifted them from here for a news item on culturedeluxe and I've just had to phone Jon McClure myself to explain! Cheers for the PM. Post now edited to what it is now showing on teletext. That is not the first time that has happened and it sure as hell wont be the last.
July 20, 200816 yr Oh look what I've just found: Reverend slams rich indie teletext.co.uk He added: "I spotted Faris Rotter, a Klaxon and Peaches Geldof there. It was £12.50 a drink, I left immediately. That's British music for you - full of rich kids spending daddy's trust fund." He's 100% spot on.... These fukkin' c/unts are all hanging round places like the sodding Groucho Club or China White these days hobnobbing with all the "medjaaaahhhh" sh!tterati.... Used to be that real Indie was associated with places like the Hacienda in Manchester, or places like the Good Mixer, the Falcon (RIP) or The Dublin Castle, all pretty nice (proper) pubs in the Camden area.... Conor MacNichols frankly deserves shooting for what he's turned NME into.... <_< And Peaches fukkin' Geldof.... An even bigger useless sack of skin than Lily Allen or Paris Hilton.... What the fukk does she DO exactly apart from leech off her daddy and use the Geldof name to get her into parties or clubs......? Parasite....
July 22, 200816 yr http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertai...and-870520.html :D Excellent article. Pretty much agree with every word.... Love the quote in your sig by the way..... :lol: Very Bill Hicks....
August 12, 200816 yr wtf is he on about?.... it AINT 'INDIE' anyway... its simple, old fashioned guitar pop that was prevailent throughout the 60's and 70's... it became 'indie' in the late 70's early 80's when guitar groups started their own independant record labels to be able to release what they wanted to without some corporate fat cat TELLING them what to do. i HATE the term 'indie' being used for this... it was MY generation that collared the phrase and it had a meaning. but this has happened many times before... every time a new style of music hit the charts/media it soon got watered down by copycat, bandwagon jumpers...
August 12, 200816 yr Author wtf is he on about?.... it AINT 'INDIE' anyway... its simple, old fashioned guitar pop that was prevailent throughout the 60's and 70's... it became 'indie' in the late 70's early 80's when guitar groups started their own independant record labels to be able to release what they wanted to without some corporate fat cat TELLING them what to do. i HATE the term 'indie' being used for this... it was MY generation that collared the phrase and it had a meaning. but this has happened many times before... every time a new style of music hit the charts/media it soon got watered down by copycat, bandwagon jumpers... But not to the genre of indie. When you have a corporate kiss ass privately educated at one of the UK top 5 fee paying schools idiot (Conor McNicholas - who is about as subversive at David Cameron IMHO) running the NME promoting these lowest common denominator acts (Since when were the likes of Lily Allen, MCR, FOB, The Kooks, Pigeon Detectives, etc alternative) to today's teenagers and a fantastic innovative new act like Late Of The Pier (who've so far released singles in 5 track EP bundles, so making their digital releases chart ineligible, whilst building up a cult following) are ignored, then the genre is in big trouble. http://www.independent.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00039/frontpage200708_39064a.jpg
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