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Well, overall I think that this is truth.

I agree with the jurnalist.

But to be honest there is always 90% of c**p music, 7% good music and maybe 3% of brill music in any genre.

this doesn't concern only indie bands.

Sadly the most talented bands/artist are very rarely promoted on the media (at least nowadays). which it gets on my nerves really.

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After about three or four tracks I asked him: Whose LP is this?' And he said, 'No, it's a compilation.' Every track sounded identical.

 

That's so true, and one of the many reasons why I use to dismiss Indie music so much.

It'll take care of itself naturally. Good indie is being pushed underground at the moment so you just have to search a little harder.

 

Exactly the same thing happened post-Britpop a decade ago when The Verve, Ocean Colour Scene etc. diluted indie music and let The Stereophonics and Travis in. We just had to weather the storm for three years before The Strokes came in and destroyed them...well, all except Coldplay.

it depends some indie bands come and sound eactly like another, others come and are really inventive and original.
It'll take care of itself naturally. Good indie is being pushed underground at the moment so you just have to search a little harder.

 

Exactly the same thing happened post-Britpop a decade ago when The Verve, Ocean Colour Scene etc. diluted indie music and let The Stereophonics and Travis in.

 

...but even the Stereophonics and Travis throw up good tunes once in a while among all the boring over-played radio dadrock and MOR jangle....obv Dakota was great and Travis' Selfish Jean was saddly overlooked by most people (i guess radio would rather play Why Does It Always Rain On Me - or fukking Chaising Cars :puke2: :lol: - again) and The Boy with No Name was not actually as bad as i thought it was gonna be (well it ended up being a bit dirge-like in places as expected but overall alright & i guess worth the couple of £ that it cost)....

 

:up: Travis - Selfish Jean :up:

 

btw would the best way now to describe travis would be "like del amitri..."but with better or worse hair :lol:

 

del amitri - roll to me (disturbing video alert!!!!)

There is alot of terrible music out there that some how makes it big, but there is a ton of great stuff that goes unnoticed.

"Landfill Indie", what a great phrase :D

 

I do like the more generic indie but a bit of variety would be nice, without being too odd to my ears.

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Scouting for Girls are like the sound of Satan's scrotum emptying.

 

Maybe Scouting for Girls are actually a better band than the Pigeon Detectives - who according to their last two singles are just a mediocre version of Scouting for Girls - tho Scouting for Girls are more annoying and omnipresent so we end up hating them more..plus the singer looks like Josh Harnett taking a dump...without the help of fibre-sure..straining under the weight of a damn hard stool....(if you need to go on please do)

I really like Scouting For girls, The Kooks, The Hoosiers etc...

 

But to even THINK about calling them INDIE :wacko:

I really like Scouting For girls, The Kooks, The Hoosiers etc...

 

But to even THINK about calling them INDIE :wacko:

The Kooks maybe but definately not the other two. It depends what people classify as Indie. I think its a broad thing because it seems stupid that as soon as a band gets big they are no longer classed as indie :wacko:

Why do people class Indie has a 'genre/sound' for a band. :/ It just means Independent, not long haired idiot-'rockers' playing music on guitars for girls.
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Why do people class Indie has a 'genre/sound' for a band. :/ It just means Independent, not long haired idiot-'rockers' playing music on guitars for girls.

It quite obviously doesn't mean independent anymore and for me did so when PWL was considered to be an indie label. It has come to be a synonym for alternative, which itself has come to be a meaningless phrase as well since guitar based music has come to be such a large part of the mainstream..

I say we leave the door open for 3 more and then we will be good.
Why do people class Indie has a 'genre/sound' for a band. :/ It just means Independent, not long haired idiot-'rockers' playing music on guitars for girls.

 

so you judge rock bands (and their music) by the lenght of band members hair? :blink:

could you be more specific which long haired idiot-'rockers' do you mean?

Cos for me they at least can play guitars very well not like in some indie bands...

 

so you judge rock bands (and their music) by the lenght of band members hair? :blink:

could you be more specific which long haired idiot-'rockers' do you mean?

Cos for me they at least can play guitars very well not like in some indie bands...

Being sarcastic....

It quite obviously doesn't mean independent anymore and for me did so when PWL was considered to be an indie label.

 

PWL - now doesnt that stand for Pete Waterman Ltd? And wasn't the very same Pete Waterman that featured as the in-house producer on BBC Four's (often repeated) story of Stiff Records - If It Ain't Stiff...which was part of like a 3 hour love-in the other night to this maverick indie label (or is it just pub rock :lol: ) whose Dave Robinson ended up merging it with Island Records...Island...which could be seen as one of the very first indie record labels back in the late 50s/early 60s...tho obv (outside Reggae obsessives i guess who are please that it can now be mixed with Trojan) Island wouldnt have as much credibilty in indie circles and be just seen as a big nasty major record label chuning out the next Keane download because it was pre-Punk...whereas Trevor Horn/ZTT's Stiff label will still have loads of credibilty....of which a bubblegum disco-house like PWL won't have...

 

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/55/Stiff_Records.jpg

Kirsty MacColl - They Don't Know

 

Madness - My Girl

 

probs even more than someone like Echo and oh we all feel so sad about feeder's under-promotion - boo woo - because they are on an indie and not on a major..but as everyone should know by now is just Chrysalis Records in disguise...well since the main brand joined Virgin, Charisma and Mute at EMI....and i guess Mute still gets appreciated - still gets the indie cred as that label was post-punk enterty and unlike Virgin and Charisma not to do with the old grey whistle test and prog-rock (tho when that Progressive rock is mentioned in connection with muse - thats alright..as everyone like a bit of credible prog like muse dont they?)...its all bollocks really...people being a bit too precious over their alternative culture...still trying to align themselves with a certain credibilty that i guess goes back to punk or post-punk..a certian idealism that would make them seem special by not being part of a mainstreem popular culture (even tho everyone else is doing it and yeah like it so is - so obv. is part of a popular mainstreem culture)

 

and when it comes to label there will be an overlap of bands & staff from majors to indies, indies will get bought out by majors, or licence stuff to majors and Cherry Red will still re-issue La Toya Jackson, Sheena Easton and Nena

 

http://www.cherryred.co.uk/cherrypop/artists.php

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