Are you saying you watched Hartnell's final story The Tenth Planet from 1966?

 

yes... im 53 in 2 weeks, i clearly remember the first episode which caused such a stir that it was immediately repeated the following saturday followed by episode 2. the regeneration didnt fool me, a 9 year old mushyboyrob, even then i (we) knew it was just a ploy to lengthen the show! (we were aware of the strings on 'thunderbirds' as well but went along with it! lol )

 

they made it up as they went along... initially hartnell wasnt a timelord, just a nutty proffessor who created a time machine in a scrap yard! some bints graddad.

 

i liked hartnell, he was a most believeable timelord... maybe the fact that dr who was staple viewing for my generation kinda taints our perception of how dr who should be. the early seriese played heavily into the hands of the space mad 60's and they got off earth !!! lol.

yes... im 53 in 2 weeks, i clearly remember the first episode which caused such a stir that it was immediately repeated the following saturday followed by episode 2. the regeneration didnt fool me, a 9 year old mushyboyrob, even then i (we) knew it was just a ploy to lengthen the show! (we were aware of the strings on 'thunderbirds' as well but went along with it! lol )

 

they made it up as they went along... initially hartnell wasnt a timelord, just a nutty proffessor who created a time machine in a scrap yard! some bints graddad.

 

i liked hartnell, he was a most believeable timelord... maybe the fact that dr who was staple viewing for my generation kinda taints our perception of how dr who should be. the early seriese played heavily into the hands of the space mad 60's and they got off earth !!! lol.

The first episode was broadcast the day after Kennedy's assassination so I think there was a feeling that some people would have missed it because of that.

 

Whoever came up with the idea of regeneration was a true genius. Well over 40 years on and the series is still going. Without that idea it would probably be long-forgotten. That Hartnell/Troughton regeneration is the first thing I remember watching after our family got a television :o

The first episode was broadcast the day after Kennedy's assassination so I think there was a feeling that some people would have missed it because of that.

 

Whoever came up with the idea of regeneration was a true genius. Well over 40 years on and the series is still going. Without that idea it would probably be long-forgotten. That Hartnell/Troughton regeneration is the first thing I remember watching after our family got a television :o

 

as i remember, it had nothing to do with that (but i was 6 !!!)...but it was the sheer audacity of the show being so cutting edge. dr who was news, big news, people were talking about it.

 

true, it was genius, and the show evolved rapidly in the 60's to accomodate options for longevity.

as i remember, it had nothing to do with that (but i was 6 !!!)...but it was the sheer audacity of the show being so cutting edge. dr who was news, big news, people were talking about it.

 

true, it was genius, and the show evolved rapidly in the 60's to accomodate options for longevity.

Sadly for him/her, I suspect whoever it was hasn't had a percentage of the income generated as a result of the idea.

Wow. I'd love to have been around for those early years. Unfortunately I came in with Tom Baker's work and many of the early episodes being lost means I may never see them. The Seeds Of Doom is my first memory of the show although I may have seen earlier.

I thought it was terrible. That missile scene has to be one of the most things i've ever witnessed on TV. Really bad.

 

Was a nice touch with him saying goodbye to all the old characters. The regeneration scene was drawn out, maybe too much in the end but hey ho i'll stick with it as it's an end to such a good Doctor who will undoubtedly now go onto much bigger payed TV roles (such as the pilot for the show on NBC...).

 

Kinda feel sorry for Matt Smith. I think he's going to be good but it's unfortunate for him that he's following such a popular Doctor. I really hope he tries to make the role his own, but I can't help but feel the BBC have pushed for a David Tennant mk. II with the scripts and hoped he'd be in a such similar vein as David Tennant.

Wow. I'd love to have been around for those early years. Unfortunately I came in with Tom Baker's work and many of the early episodes being lost means I may never see them. The Seeds Of Doom is my first memory of the show although I may have seen earlier.

 

the 60's were very futurist/space based.. there was alot of excitement about space travel and of course the space race was on. 60's dr who captured the imagination of me, being a kid, so maybe it wasnt really that good! it just appealed to me as a child. they did seem to go to other planets alot though.. after all time and reletive dimension in space always seem to be earth bound nowdays! lol.

i remember alot of weird (plastic) monster aliens from planet 'zog'... lol ... foam, yetis, moors, seaweed things, silurians, let alone cybermen and daleks.

 

tom baker was half and half.... some brilliant episodes, some real weak (earth based).

That's the preview I saw last night, the tone of it looks much darker, Matt Smith has got the biggest shoes to fill. I just hope those shoes just fit.

Oh wow. :mellow: That trailer looks fantastic! I wasn't too keen on having a new Doctor, especially after the way he looked after regenerating. Anyway, I can't wait to see the new series, and I'm so glad the weeping angels are back, as 'Blink' was one of my favourite David Tennant episodes. :wub:

I really liked it but not quite as much as I thought I would, I'd probz give it a 8.5/10, anyways Im devvastated to see the end of David Tennant!

So apparently according to the BBC the woman was the Doctor's mother. If that is the case why did they not actually explain that? Or have the BBC accidentally revealed a secret loose thread plot? It doesn't make sense that she be a definite person without on screen explanation because a lot of people will be confused. Or maybe it was all there and I just missed it.

Part 2. Yet again with a series cliffhanger under RTD, the second part was not as good as the first. The first 20/25 minutes dragged on too long without enough pathos & plot development. It was equally disappointing how quickly Rassillon & The Timelords were disposed of; and how it was Rasillon that was the one who reset the human race back to normal; and the under use of Donna's character in the plot.

 

However, the plusses outweighed the minuses.

I loved all the numerous Sci-Fi references: Vinvochi ship = Red Dwarf's Starbug; the long walk way at the beginning of Part 2 = in the Death Star from Star Wars; in the Death StarBar scene with Jack homage to Bar Scene in Star Wars; gun turrets = the Millennium Falcon.

I loved the key scene where The Doctor had to decide whether he was going to kill The Master or Rasillon = very Shakespeare's Hamlet.

The fact that it was The Master who turned on Rassillon.

The key twists = that it was Wilf who knocked four times; and (as heavily implied in the Dr Who Confidential) that it was the Doctor's mother who was talking to Wilf (a human guardian angel) to ensure things ended as they should do to ensure Dr #11 would regenerate (the two characters who were hiding their faces with the Timelord sequences = Doctor's Mum & Doctor #11 version).

 

I thought the way #10 said goodbye to all the key characters at the end was a great twist, which I never saw coming, although it was a bit overlong. I thought the Doctor getting Donna a (winning) lottery ticket from the past from her dead father in time for her wedding was inspired; whilst I like how the Doctor said goodbye to Rose before he ever met her (so avoiding yet another over dramatic goodbye). The only thing that could have gone better with that Regeneration sequence was if the Doctor regenerated immediately after he slumped to the floor after taking in all that radiation so that it was Matt Smith's Doctor #11 who went around saying goodbye's on behalf of Doctor #10. Especially as the dialogue between Wilf and the Doctor just before then was the highlight of that episode. I think if that had been the case then the audience watching the second most watched TV show over the Xmas/New Year Holiday period (behind Eastenders first Muslim marriage) would have been simultaneously stunned as those scenes would have been even more emotional and yet would have got a greater flavour as to how Matt Smith's Doctor will be.

 

8/10

 

Goodbye RTD and his great emotional rollercoasters that were let down by his lack of ability dotting the I's and crossing the T's as a scriptwriter so resulting in too many cliffhangers ending so simply on many occasions in an otherwise great episode. But he knew how to produce great TV. Whilst goodbye to David Tennant ...... it is a pleasure to say that had at the beginning of 2000 if you had told me that Dr Who (my all-time favourite programme as a child) would return bigger and better than ever with a Doctor who I rate higher than Tom Baker I wouuld have never have believed it.

 

As for Matt Smith ...... there are two key factors to be a success within the role: likeability and screen presence/magneticism. From his previous roles he certainly has the former (which Colin Baker's Doctor never had); but I'm very worried he does not possess the latter (which Sylvester McCoy's Doctor never had). Add to knowing that there are greater budget constraints for the next series. From a script writing point of view we all know Steven Moffat will do a much better job than RTD on that front; but his one time to date at producing a show (Jekyll) led to a tail off in ratings so doubts must remain over its continued success. I'm also concerned that with the young casting that Doctor Who is going to go after the Harry Potter and Skins younger market so alienating my generation of 30 somethings who still fondly remember the old Who.

 

Still role on the Spring.

So apparently according to the BBC the woman was the Doctor's mother. If that is the case why did they not actually explain that? Or have the BBC accidentally revealed a secret loose thread plot? It doesn't make sense that she be a definite person without on screen explanation because a lot of people will be confused. Or maybe it was all there and I just missed it.

If you missed it you weren't alone :lol: I'd guessed that she was his mother but that was never stated so we have to wait and see whether she returns.

 

Matt Smith has got a very difficult act to follow. I just hope the writers have stuck to tradition and given him a completely new persona. Then he can be seen simple as different from David Tennant rather than better or worse.

Ratings:

 

18:40- Doctor Who: 10.40m (35.5%) ... HD: 389k

* peak: 10.85m (36%) at 19:45

I thought the way #10 said goodbye to all the key characters at the end was a great twist, which I never saw coming, although it was a bit overlong. I thought the Doctor getting Donna a (winning) lottery ticket from the past from her dead father in time for her wedding was inspired; whilst I like how the Doctor said goodbye to Rose before he ever met her (so avoiding yet another over dramatic goodbye). The only thing that could have gone better with that Regeneration sequence was if the Doctor regenerated immediately after he slumped to the floor after taking in all that radiation so that it was Matt Smith's Doctor #11 who went around saying goodbye's on behalf of Doctor #10. Especially as the dialogue between Wilf and the Doctor just before then was the highlight of that episode. I think if that had been the case then the audience watching the second most watched TV show over the Xmas/New Year Holiday period (behind Eastenders first Muslim marriage) would have been simultaneously stunned as those scenes would have been even more emotional and yet would have got a greater flavour as to how Matt Smith's Doctor will be.

When he went down in the radiation room I was half-expecting Matt Smith to get up so you could say that he did provide a twist there :lol:

 

Oh, and you missed the Hitchhiker's Guide reference with the scene set in somewhere very much like the restaurant at the end of the universe.

As for Matt Smith ...... there are two key factors to be a success within the role: likeability and screen presence/magneticism. From his previous roles he certainly has the former (which Colin Baker's Doctor never had); but I'm very worried he does not possess the latter (which Sylvester McCoy's Doctor never had). Add to knowing that there are greater budget constraints for the next series. From a script writing point of view we all know Steven Moffat will do a much better job than RTD on that front; but his one time to date at producing a show (Jekyll) led to a tail off in ratings so doubts must remain over its continued success. I'm also concerned that with the young casting that Doctor Who is going to go after the Harry Potter and Skins younger market so alienating my generation of 30 somethings who still fondly remember the old Who.

 

 

The key is the first few episodes in March, I'm just worried the new series starts off really well, and mid way goes down the pan, Steven Moffat needs to keep the stories coming, and probably bring in a old foe from the back catalogue of Dr. Who. I'm going into the new series with my eyes wide open, and see what develops. I still think its alienating a lot of Dr Who fans who are over the age 30 plus. I guess only time will tell, I would love to see Sean Pertwee into the role at some point though, I just hope he won't be seen as too old for the show when the time comes.

 

I think Sally Sparrow is making a comeback for the follow up episode of "Blink" which is my favourite Dr. Who episode, with the weeping angels.

The key is the first few episodes in March, I'm just worried the new series starts off really well, and mid way goes down the pan, Steven Moffat needs to keep the stories coming, and probably bring in a old foe from the back catalogue of Dr. Who. I'm going into the new series with my eyes wide open, and see what develops. I still think its alienating a lot of Dr Who fans who are over the age 30 plus. I guess only time will tell, I would love to see Sean Pertwee into the role at some point though, I just hope he won't be seen as too old for the show when the time comes.

 

I think Sally Sparrow is making a comeback for the follow up episode of "Blink" which is my favourite Dr. Who episode, with the weeping angels.

 

As I've said before the 2002 film Dog Soldiers proved he would make a brilliant Doctor. But as you say he is 45 now. But he would be my choice for the 13th incarnation of the Doctor where the plot arc could be the Doctor believing he was in his final regeneration and the next time would be his death before some Sci-Fi plot devlopment could be provided to give him another set of lives.

 

As for Sally Sparrow .... Golden Globe Best actress nominee Carey Mulligan I think is now way too hot a property for the BBC to afford.

As I've said before the 2002 film Dog Soldiers proved he would make a brilliant Doctor. But as you say he is 45 now. But he would be my choice for the 13th incarnation of the Doctor where the plot arc could be the Doctor believing he was in his final regeneration and the next time would be his death before some Sci-Fi plot devlopment could be provided to give him another set of lives.

 

As for Sally Sparrow .... Golden Globe Best actress nominee Carey Mulligan I think is now way too hot a property for the BBC to afford.

If the BBC want an "older" Doctor then I still think Bill Nighy would be an excellent choice. As for the twelve regenerations problem, I shall stick to the same theory I've had for several years. That is that a Time Lord can regenerate twelve times into the same gender. After regenerating into the opposite gender, they can then revert to the original gender and start again. I'm not going to let Matt Smith's "I'm a girl" line put me off the scent :D

Bill Nighy would be good but I'm still favoring Richard O'Brien as the best Doctor we've never had.

 

Also it'll be interesting to see what they do when incarnation 12 is up as that should see the return of The Valeyard (The Doctor's evil incarnation as The Master put it)