Plus if I'm not mistaken you're northern so you would be in $h!t anyway :P

 

This is true! We know once Cameron gets in he'll arrange to make the North South Divide even greater! And there is a divide you know! Yes ... the South with all the money ........... and the North with all the good football teams! :lol:

 

Norma

 

That's James Purnell just quit the Cabinet and has written a 'Dear Gordie' letter asking that he quit too. For the sake of the Labour Party.

 

Oh dear. Disintegration before our eyes. It's doubtful Gordie will still be PM this time next week....

 

 

:lol:

Another day another resignation from the cabinet, its looks like the last one left should switch of the lights to save energy.

 

Its not just the fact they are resigning, but its the jobs they currently hold, Smith the Home secretary, Blears in charge of the local elections on the eve of the same elections, Purnell in charge of works & pensions and unemployment when unemployment is rising fast. Looks like it could be the chancellor next week. Its like the song 10 little indians, soon there will only be poor Gordon left, will he weld the doors of No. 10 shut to stop them taking him away.

 

It is time for a change as this ship has run aground.

I agree. It's getting beyond a joke now. Who the heck is going to be left for him to re-shuffle in his re-shuffle? They've all quit :lol:

Blears and Smith were probably on the way out anyway and Brown will have started to make his plans accordingly. Purnell's resignation is far more significant. He's been seen as a rising star with a good career ahead of him.

 

If Brown doesn't announce his intention to go in the next few days, it will be interesting to see how many of the three departing ministers are able to make a resignation speech in the Commons. This could be someone's Geoffrey Howe moment.

A "cabinet reshuffle"...? Rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic more like...... :lol:

 

 

Its time for an early election, Gordon Brown should quit, the country is one big mess, rising unemployment, no one is safe in their jobs, the economy is buckling, its becoming a one big joke, the only person left to run the country will be the Queen, and she will be shouting "I Am Not Amused".

 

The people of this country need some assurance, whatever happens Labour will be out, and the tories will get in, David Cameron is not going to do a better job, I give him 12 months before he steps down.

Oh jesus, is there anyone left?

 

Christ, Alex Salmond must be wetting himself with joy at the thought of stealing all these labour seats at the next election

Its time for an early election, Gordon Brown should quit, the country is one big mess, rising unemployment, no one is safe in their jobs, the economy is buckling, its becoming a one big joke, the only person left to run the country will be the Queen, and she will be shouting "I Am Not Amused".

 

The people of this country need some assurance, whatever happens Labour will be out, and the tories will get in, David Cameron is not going to do a better job, I give him 12 months before he steps down.

 

I agree with that... A change of government will essentially do sod all... The problem in this country goes way, WAY beyond what some MPs have claimed in dodgy expenses.... Which is why I think that the whole Expenses Scandal is a smokescreen.... This country will NEVER be "great" again until something is done to address the evils of unfettered Capitalism, more specifically, the evils of the Corporate Banking system which has brought this country to its knees and and done the greatest damage to our economy since Adolf Hitler... That really is no exaggeration by the way..... Hitler tried to bomb us into submission, but, really, if only he'd been born 30 or 40 years later, he could've gotten a job running RBS or HBOS and totally destroyed our country that way.... Bin Laden must also be wondering why he didn't choose to become a Corporate Banker instead of a Jihadist terrorist.....

 

The ONLY thing that I want to hear out of a future govt is that it WILL do something to turn the tide of corrupt and unfettered Capitalism in the UK, and to bring those responsible for the financial disaster to some kind of justice, whether it be in court of law or dragged out into the streets to be disembowelled slowly with rusty breadknives..... -_-

You got to admit you have to be certified as a nutter to run the country. I bet Mickey Mouse will do a better job.

As Pete Townsend once wrote "Meet The New Boss / Same as The Old Boss / ........... We Won't Get Fooled Again".

 

But then again who in their right mind would be a Prime Minister when you can be a Top English Premiership Footballer and earn more in less than two week's than the PM earns in a year (allowing for legal fiddles!).

 

No wonder this country is f***ed.

Oh jesus, is there anyone left?

 

Christ, Alex Salmond must be wetting himself with joy at the thought of stealing all these labour seats at the next election

 

That is the same Alex Salmond whom said an independent Scotland should model themselves on Iceland, less than two weeks beforre Iceland's banks went bust and the country became bankrupt. :lol:

 

Mind you Scotland's Royal Bank Of Scotland ran up a loss of £19.5 billion (Contrast that to the very sensibly run Nationwide Building Society's results and it is enough to make you despair), which British (i.e. mainly English) taxpayers are picking up the tab.

If Brown does go, do you think the new PM will call a quick General Election (and no doubt lose) or stick it out as long as possible until Summer 2010 (and no doubt lose)? :lol:

 

 

It really is uncharted territory this isn't it? All quite exciting really. :w00t:

That is the same Alex Salmond whom said an independent Scotland should model themselves on Iceland, less than two weeks beforre Iceland's banks went bust and the country became bankrupt. :lol:

 

Thank god Iceland didn't win the Eurovision Song Contest they will be bankrupt :lol:

 

That is the same Alex Salmond whom said an independent Scotland should model themselves on Iceland, less than two weeks beforre Iceland's banks went bust and the country became bankrupt. :lol:

 

Mind you Scotland's Royal Bank Of Scotland ran up a loss of £19.5 billion (Contrast that to the very sensibly run Nationwide Building Society's results and it is enough to make you despair), which British (i.e. mainly English) taxpayers are picking up the tab.

Indeed the same moronic fool.

 

The idiots north of the border have forgotten all about that now, and will lap up the bast*rds anti-english pish. He'll blame the recession on Westminster and the banks on westminster too, and then he'll whine on about Scottish banks being owned by the english government and call for them to be handed over to Holyrood. Who can't put up a building without going ten times over their budget and years behind schedule.

 

It's quite obvious that the two biggest scottish banks are part of the reason we're up $h!te creak without a plank to hold onto to stop us drowning, f*** a paddle.

 

The SNP is imo the worst thing that is happening to Scotland, sure westminster is run by a f***ing idiot [a scottish one at that], but trying to separate us from england now would be hell.

 

If we got those two banks back and independence we'd be bankrupt in hours. HBOS and RBS would bleed us dry and Government back projects would cost 20x more than anticipated.

 

 

Clydesdale Bank hasn't faired too badly, which will no doubt be down entirely to it's owners, The National Australia Bank [NAB as it's known across here].

Can I ask you something? Are you Scottish Fixin to Thrill? I thought you were from previous posts but I'm not so sure now.

 

Guess I'm one of those 'idiots north of the border' then. :rolleyes:

 

 

As a wee aside, Holyrood actually had nothing at all to do with the Holyrood building project. The design, architect and costings etc were all decided on by the pre-devolution Scottish Office. Before the devolved parliament was even up and running. So I'm afraid the fact it was a daft design in a daft location and totally impractical to build within budget was hee-haw to do with the Holyrood MSPs.

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As Pete Townsend once wrote "Meet The New Boss / Same as The Old Boss / ........... We Won't Get Fooled Again".

 

But then again who in their right mind would be a Prime Minister when you can be a Top English Premiership Footballer and earn more in less than two week's than the PM earns in a year (allowing for legal fiddles!).

 

No wonder this country is f***ed.

But that's part of the problem. All politicians are vilified by the press as a bunch of chancers, egotists and money-grabbers. Of course most politicians are egotists. After all, they think they can run the country. But what's the alternative? Do we want the country to be run by people who think they'd be crap at the job? As Churchill said "Democracy is the worst possible way to run a country. Except for the other methods which have been tried from time to time."

Indeed the same moronic fool.

 

The idiots north of the border have forgotten all about that now, and will lap up the bast*rds anti-english pish. He'll blame the recession on Westminster and the banks on westminster too, and then he'll whine on about Scottish banks being owned by the english government and call for them to be handed over to Holyrood. Who can't put up a building without going ten times over their budget and years behind schedule.

 

It's quite obvious that the two biggest scottish banks are part of the reason we're up $h!te creak without a plank to hold onto to stop us drowning, f*** a paddle.

 

The SNP is imo the worst thing that is happening to Scotland, sure westminster is run by a f***ing idiot [a scottish one at that], but trying to separate us from england now would be hell.

 

If we got those two banks back and independence we'd be bankrupt in hours. HBOS and RBS would bleed us dry and Government back projects would cost 20x more than anticipated.

Clydesdale Bank hasn't faired too badly, which will no doubt be down entirely to it's owners, The National Australia Bank [NAB as it's known across here].

 

Well, the recession IS the fault of The City (ie, the London fat cats..), Wall Street, Westminster and the FSA... Edinburgh has had very, very little to do with it.... Salmond and Swinney certainly had no real power to rein in the likes of Goodwin and Pell (er, that would be the FSA's responsibility, one which they failed to live up to...), and even LESS influence to rein in Appelgarth at the Northern Rock and Bradford and Bingley (both of whom also lost BILLIONS Richard, which you seem to convieniently forget, the Northern Rock had to be NATIONALISED FFS, so how much is that costing the English taxpayer you prat... :rolleyes: )..... This banking crisis had its origins in America and swept over here like a fukkin' Tsunami because we were so far up the arses of Corporate American neo-conservatism and thought that things like sub-prime mortgages and Collateralised Debt Obligations (dreamt up by the YANKS) were a fukkin' wonderful idea..... <_<

 

Just what the hell do you expect the SNP, who only have relatively limited, DEVOLVED powers, to actually do about this....? The banking Industry was supposed to be regulated by the FSA, headquarters in ENGLAND (and, er, the Bank of ENGLAND before it..), and the Exchequer, headquarters in ENGLAND......

 

And Richard, you should remember that for years during the tory admin, it was SCOTTISH north sea oil and gas which funded Tax breaks for rich c/unts in the south of ENGLAND.....

 

It's all very well to call Salmond a "moronic fool", and he's guilty of many things, but at the end of the day, neither he nor the SNP are in any way culpable for what has transpired with the banks, because they had no power to intervene.... Again, that would be the CHANCELLOR and the FSA who would actually have these powers......

Can I ask you something? Are you Scottish Fixin to Thrill? I thought you were from previous posts but I'm not so sure now.

 

Guess I'm one of those 'idiots north of the border' then. :rolleyes:

As a wee aside, Holyrood actually had nothing at all to do with the Holyrood building project. The design, architect and costings etc were all decided on by the pre-devolution Scottish Office. Before the devolved parliament was even up and running. So I'm afraid the fact it was a daft design in a daft location and totally impractical to build within budget was hee-haw to do with the Holyrood MSPs.

I've lived in Scotland from the age of 3months until February of this year.

 

And by idiots, i do mean the kind of people who believe everything that has every been printed in the Sun.

 

Sorry, i should have been clearer

Politically speaking these are worryingly dark times. In the midst of the worst recession for over seventy years, what are the priorities for our disgraced MP’s? Working ever hour trying to increase the prospects for the populous or self-indulgent manoeuvring to oust one undemocratically elected leader in favour for another less well known one?

 

Is there a credible alternative to Brown within Labour? How can a new undemocratically Labour leader connect with the public before an election? There would be no mandate whatsoever to be in power for a week let alone months leading a vacuum; at least in Brown’s case we knew he would succeed Blair.

 

Politically the conservatives have given a medium term strategic master class by liberating Howard with a simple achievable mandate to steady their ship while grooming Cameron/Osborne as his successors. Emerging from the political wilderness to the brink of a potential win in less than a decade is some feat considering where they were under Duncan-Smith.

 

Mark my words the moderating platitudes Cameron is giving us to get elected will be swept away as soon as they get in. The perfect excuse will be that the economy is in a worse state than Labour have let on; cue massive cuts on public spending on Education Health, as they favour public/private schooling and private medical insurance.

 

I do think they have the capability to eventually steer the economy strongly out of recession within a parliamentary term, however their cure will mean a lot of pain for ordinary working class people with high levels of tax and unemployment for many years to come. The benefits underclass will not know what’s hit them…

 

For all Labours disappointments and failures their legacy will include the bright beacon of a move towards equal rights for all. Given the way the majority of the Conservative parliamentary party voted against this landmark legislation makes me very concerned they’ll repeal key advances in LGBTQ rights made in the last twelve years.