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A continuation of a thread from 2022: http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=257079

This thread is a list of albums released in 2023 that made it into the Top 10 (including reissues of old albums, noted in red), with a comparison of their first and second weeks in the chart. It's a way of seeing which albums held up well, and which went into freefall!


Official Albums Chart Top 200

#01
01-01 Ed Sheeran - -
01-01 Lewis Capaldi - Broken by Desire to Be Heavenly Sent
01-01 Taylor Swift - 1989 (Taylor's Version)
01-02 P!nk - Trustfall
01-02 Taylor Swift - Speak Now (Taylor's Version)
01-02 Olivia Rodrigo - GUTS
01-03 Miley Cyrus - Endless Summer Vacation
01-03 Travis Scott - Utopia
01-03 Drake - For All the Dogs
01-03 The Rolling Stones - Hackney Diamonds
01-04 J Hus - Beautiful and Brutal Yard
01-04 Burna Boy - I Told Them
01-05 Lana Del Rey - Did you know that there's a tunnel under Ocean Blvd
01-05 Tom Grennan - What Ifs & Maybes
01-06 Metallica - 72 Seasons
01-06 Take That - This Life
01-08 Kylie Minogue - Tension
01-08 Ed Sheeran - Autumn Variations
01-10 Blur - The Ballad of Darren
01-11 Gorillaz - Cracker Island
01-12 Shania Twain - Queen of Me
01-13 Sam Smith - Gloria
01-13 Peter Gabriel - I/O
01-14 Busted - Greatest Hits 2.0
01-16 The Killers - Rebel Diamonds
01-23 Paramore - This Is Why
01-23 Maisie Peters - The Good Witch
01-23 Hozier - Unreal Earth
01-28 Niall Horan - The Show
01-32 boygenius - the record
01-34 U2 - Songs of Surrender
01-35 Ren - Sick Boi
01-49 Nothing But Thieves - Dead Club City
01-55 Cian Ducrot - Victory
01-65 The Lathums - From Nothing to a Little Bit More
01-66 The Reytons - What's Rock and Roll
01-66 Liam Gallagher - Knebworth 22
01-84 Ellie Goulding - Higher Than Heaven
01-94 Royal Blood - Back to the Water Below
01-103 The Courteeners - St. Jude [Reissue of 2008 album]
01-126 Enter Shikari - A Kiss for the Whole World
01-xxx The Lottery Winners - Anxiety Replacement Therapy

#02
02-02 Nines - Crop Circle 2
02-06 Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds - Council Skies
02-09 The Beatles - The Beatles 1967–1970 [Reissue of 1973 album]
02-11 Melanie Martinez - PORTALS
02-14 Blink-182 - One More Time
02-15 Raye - My 21st Century Blues
02-17 Wham! - The Singles - Echoes from the Edge of Heaven
02-18 Nines - Crop Circle 3
02-21 Potter Payper - Real Back in Style
02-21 Queens of the Stone Age - In Times New Roman
02-26 NF - HOPE
02-29 Anne-Marie - Unhealthy
02-31 Depeche Mode - Memento Mori
02-51 Skindred - Smile
02-57 Slowthai - Ugly
02-57 Ateez - The World EP.Fin: Will
02-62 Inhaler - Cuts & Bruises
02-73 OMD - Bauhaus Staircase
02-102 Claire Richards - Euphoria
02-109 Rick Astley - Are We There Yet
02-128 McFly - Power to Play
02-159 The Hives - The Death of Randy Fitzsimmons
02-171 Oasis - The Masterplan [Reissue of 1998 album]
02-xxx The 1975 - Live with the Philharmonic Orchestra

#03
03-04 Nicki Minaj - Pink Friday 2
03-13 Post Malone - Austin
03-17 The Beatles - The Beatles 1962-1966 [Reissue of 1973 album]
03-21 Jung Kook - Golden
03-44 Sleep Token - Take Me Back to Eden
03-45 Fall Out Boy - So Much (For) Stardust
03-56 Jorja Smith - Falling or Flying
03-63 Everything but the Girl - Fuse
03-68 Jessie Ware - That! Feels Good!
03-72 Gabriels - Angels & Queens
03-83 The 1975 - The 1975 [Reissue of 2013 album]
03-117 Jungle - Volcano
03-122 Sleaford Mods - UK GRIM
03-163 James - Be Opened by the Wonderful
03-172 Those Damn Crows - Inhale/Exhale
03-196 Gracie Abrams - Good Riddance
03-xxx DMA'S - How Many Dreams?
03-xxx Jonas Brothers - The Album
03-xxx The Coral - Sea of Mirrors
03-xxx Bombay Bicycle Club - My Big Day

#04
04-11 Clavish - Rap Game Awful
04-27 Chase & Status - 2 RUFF, Vol. 1
04-32 Mimi Webb - Amelia
04-45 The National - First Two Pages of Frankenstein
04-47 Troye Sivan - Something to Give Each Other
04-52 Tunde - First Lap
04-57 Mitski - The Land Is Inhospitable and So Are We
04-76 Headie One & K-Trap
04-78 Pet Shop Boys - Smash - The Singles 1985-2020
04-78 Olivia Dean - Messy
04-79 Duran Duran - Danse Macabre
04-89 Pink Floyd - The Dark Side of the Moon (Live at Wembley 1974)
04-115 Roger Waters - The Dark Side of the Moon Redux
04-121 Def Leppard - Drastic Symphonies
04-172 Steven Wilson - The Harmony Codex
04-xxx You Me at Six - Truth Decay
04-xxx Taylor Swift - folklore: the long pond studio sessions
04-xxx The Sherlocks - People Like Me & You

#05
05-16 Luke Combs - Gettin' Old
05-20 Tate McRae - Think Later
05-28 Joel Corry - Another Friday Night [Note: This album was charting for 12 weeks prior to its physical release]
05-36 Adam Lambert - High Drama
05-43 Doja Cat - Scarlet
05-45 James Blunt - Who We Used to Be
05-49 Cliff Richard - Cliff With Strings - My Kinda Life
05-52 Mĺneskin - Rush
05-64 Dolly Parton - Rockstar
05-73 Róisín Murphy - Hit Parade
05-109 PJ Harvey - I Inside the Old Year Dying
05-126 Far From Saints - Far From Saints
05-xxx Lovejoy - Wake Up & It's Over
05-xxx Miles Kane - One Man Band
05-xxx Holly Humberstone - Paint My Bedroom Black
05-xxx Baby Queen - Quarter Life Crisis

#06
06-14 Noah Kahan - Stick Season [Note: This album was charting for 22 weeks prior to reaching the Top 10 for the first time]
06-23 D-Block Europe - DBE World
06-56 Texas - The Very Best Of - 1989-2023
06-62 Digga D - Back to Square One
06-72 N-Dubz - Timeless
06-111 The Chemical Brothers - For That Beautiful Feeling
06-134 Slowdive - Everything Is Alive
06-179 Rita Ora - You & I
06-193 Alison Goldfrapp - The Love Invention
06-xxx Gaz Coombes - Turn the Car Around
06-xxx Black Star Riders - Wrong Side of Paradise
06-xxx Orbital - Optical Delusion
06-xxx Black Honey - A Fistful of Peaches
06-xxx Reverend & The Makers - Heatwave in the Cold North
06-xxx Dexys Midnight Runners - The Feminine Divine
06-xxx View - Exorcism of Youth
06-xxx Black Stone Cherry - Screamin' at the Sky

#07
07-52 Lil Uzi Vert - Pink Tape
07-101 Linkin Park - Meteora [Reissue of 2003 album]
07-109 Sufjan Stevens - Javelin
07-111 Lana Del Rey - Ultraviolence [Reissue of 2014 album]
07-121 Freya Ridings - Blood Orange
07-153 Reneé Rapp - Snow Angel
07-199 Sparks - The Girl Is Crying in Here Latte
07-xxx Young Fathers - Heavy Heavy
07-xxx Christine and the Queens - Paranoia, Angels, True Love
07-xxx Ashnikko - Weedkiller
07-xxx The Streets - The Darker the Shadow the Brighter the Light
07-xxx Casisdead - Famous Last Words
07-xxx Johnny Marr - Spirit Power - The Best Of
07-xxx Passenger - All the Little Lights - Anniversary

#08
08-15 Cher - Christmas [Note: This album was in its 7th week of availability when it reached the Top 10 for the first time]
08-49 Andre Rieu & Johann Strauss Orchestra - Jewels of Romance [Note: This album was in its 5th week of availability when it reached the Top 10 for the first time]
08-64 Pink Floyd - The Dark Side of the Moon [Reissue of 1973 album]
08-131 Simply Red - Time
08-xxx Ghost - Phantomime
08-xxx Sophie Ellis-Bextor - HANA
08-xxx Greta Van Fleet - Starcatcher
08-xxx Alice Cooper - Road

#09
09-28 Gunna - A Gift & A Curse
09-46 Fredo - Unfinished Business
09-104 Eva Cassidy, London Symphony Orchestra & Christopher Willis - I Can Only Be Me (Orchestral)
09-106 M Huncho - My Neighbours Don't Know
09-xxx Bob Dylan - The Bootleg Series Vol. 17: Fragments – Time Out of Mind Sessions (1996–1997)
09-xxx De La Soul - 3 Feet High and Rising [Reissue of 1989 album]
09-xxx The Damned - Darkadelic
09-xxx Arlo Parks - My Soft Machine
09-xxx When Rivers Meet - Aces Are High

#10
10-40 Davido - Timeless
10-101 Alfie Boe - Open Arms - The Symphonic Songbook
10-138 Ateez - The World EP 2 - Outlaw
10-194 Grian Chatten - Chaos for the Fly
10-xxx Waterparks - Intellectual Property
10-xxx David Bowie - Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars - OST [Reissue of 1983 album]
10-xxx New Order - Substance [Reissue of 1987 album]

xxx = fell out of the Top 200

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175 Top 10 Albums so far in 2023 (including reissues). Second week stats:

23 albums stayed in the Top 10 [13.14%] // 152 albums fell out of the Top 10 [86.86%]
41 albums stayed in the Top 20 [23.43%] // 134 albums fell out of the Top 20 [76.57%]
61 albums stayed in the Top 40 [34.86%] // 114 albums fell out of the Top 40 [65.14%]
94 albums stayed in the Top 75 [53.71%] // 81 albums fell out of the Top 75 [46.29%]
102 albums stayed in the Top 100 [58.29%] // 73 albums fell out of the Top 100 [41.71%]
135 albums stayed in the Top 200 [77.14%] // 40 albums fell out of the Top 200 [22.86%]
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post 23rd April 2023, 04:25 AM
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+ a look at how the above albums did in the...

Official Albums Sales Chart Top 100
(in the same two weeks as the Official Albums Chart Top 200 chart runs in post 1)

#01
01-01 Ed Sheeran - -
01-02 P!nk - Trustfall
01-02 Olivia Rodrigo - GUTS
01-03 Shania Twain - Queen of Me
01-03 Taylor Swift - Speak Now (Taylor's Version)
01-03 Blur - The Ballad of Darren
01-03 The Rolling Stones - Hackney Diamonds
01-04 Lewis Capaldi - Broken by Desire to Be Heavenly Sent
01-04 Busted - Greatest Hits 2.0
01-04 Take That - This Life
01-05 Sam Smith - Gloria
01-05 Miley Cyrus - Endless Summer Vacation
01-05 Lana Del Rey - Did you know that there's a tunnel under Ocean Blvd
01-05 Metallica - 72 Seasons
01-05 Tom Grennan - What Ifs & Maybes
01-05 Ed Sheeran - Autumn Variations
01-05 Taylor Swift - 1989 (Taylor's Version)
01-05 Peter Gabriel - I/O
01-06 The Reytons - What's Rock and Roll
01-07 Liam Gallagher - Knebworth 22
01-07 Kylie Minogue - Tension
01-08 boygenius - the record
01-08 The Beatles - The Beatles 1967–1970 [Reissue of 1973 album]
01-09 Gorillaz - Cracker Island
01-09 Skindred - Smile
01-10 Paramore - This Is Why
01-10 U2 - Songs of Surrender
01-10 Claire Richards - Euphoria
01-10 The Killers - Rebel Diamonds
01-11 Anne-Marie - Unhealthy
01-11 Ren - Sick Boi
01-13 The Courteeners - St. Jude [Reissue of 2008 album]
01-13 The Lathums - From Nothing to a Little Bit More
01-13 Ellie Goulding - Higher Than Heaven
01-15 Niall Horan - The Show
01-16 The Lottery Winners - Anxiety Replacement Therapy
01-16 Hozier - Unreal Earth
01-16 Royal Blood - Back to the Water Below
01-18 Maisie Peters - The Good Witch
01-18 Roger Waters - The Dark Side of the Moon Redux
01-19 Sparks - The Girl Is Crying in Here Latte
01-20 Nothing But Thieves - Dead Club City
01-26 Rita Ora - You & I
01-38 Oasis - The Masterplan [Reissue of 1998 album]
01-71 The 1975 - Live with the Philharmonic Orchestra

#02
02-03 Andre Rieu & Johann Strauss Orchestra - Jewels of Romance
02-05 Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds - Council Skies
02-06 Queens of the Stone Age - In Times New Roman
02-07 Def Leppard - Drastic Symphonies
02-07 Wham! - The Singles - Echoes from the Edge of Heaven
02-08 Burna Boy - I Told Them
02-09 Sleaford Mods - UK GRIM
02-09 Depeche Mode - Memento Mori
02-09 Jessie Ware - That! Feels Good!
02-09 The Beatles - The Beatles 1962-1966 [Reissue of 1973 album]
02-10 Raye - My 21st Century Blues
02-11 Inhaler - Cuts & Bruises
02-12 Steven Wilson - The Harmony Codex
02-15 Cian Ducrot - Victory
02-15 The Hives - The Death of Randy Fitzsimmons
02-15 Blink-182 - One More Time
02-15 OMD - Bauhaus Staircase
02-16 Simply Red - Time
02-17 Black Star Riders - Wrong Side of Paradise
02-17 Olivia Dean - Messy
02-17 Rick Astley - Are We There Yet
02-18 The Coral - Sea of Mirrors
02-19 Slowthai - Ugly
02-19 Ateez - The World EP.Fin: Will
02-20 Gaz Coombes - Turn the Car Around
02-21 Bob Dylan - The Bootleg Series Vol. 17: Fragments – Time Out of Mind Sessions (1996–1997)
02-26 McFly - Power to Play
02-27 Sufjan Stevens - Javelin
02-30 The 1975 - The 1975 [Reissue of 2013 album]
02-37 Linkin Park - Meteora [Reissue of 2003 album]
02-40 The View - Exorcism of Youth
02-44 Enter Shikari - A Kiss for the Whole World
02-45 Dexys Midnight Runners - The Feminine Divine
02-51 You Me at Six - Truth Decay
02-54 DMA'S - How Many Dreams?
02-58 Black Honey - A Fistful of Peaches
02-83 Jonas Brothers - The Album
02-xxx Waterparks - Intellectual Property
02-xxx Tunde - First Lap

#03
03-07 The National - First Two Pages of Frankenstein
03-10 Gabriels - Angels & Queens
03-11 Melanie Martinez - PORTALS
03-11 Róisín Murphy - Hit Parade
03-12 Everything but the Girl - Fuse
03-12 Alice Cooper - Road
03-13 Cliff Richard - Cliff With Strings - My Kinda Life
03-14 Far From Saints - Far From Saints
03-14 Slowdive - Everything Is Alive
03-16 Those Damn Crows - Inhale/Exhale
03-16 Sleep Token - Take Me Back to Eden
03-16 Mitski - The Land Is Inhospitable and So Are We
03-17 Alison Goldfrapp - The Love Invention
03-17 Dolly Parton - Rockstar
03-23 James - Be Opened by the Wonderful
03-24 Greta Van Fleet - Starcatcher
03-24 Reneé Rapp - Snow Angel
03-25 Fall Out Boy - So Much (For) Stardust
03-26 Grian Chatten - Chaos for the Fly
03-29 Mĺneskin - Rush
03-36 Young Fathers - Heavy Heavy
03-37 Jungle - Volcano
03-42 Arlo Parks - My Soft Machine
03-43 Sophie Ellis-Bextor - HANA
03-44 Jorja Smith - Falling or Flying
03-57 Bombay Bicycle Club - My Big Day
03-68 The Sherlocks - People Like Me & You
03-75 Holly Humberstone - Paint My Bedroom Black
03-xxx Gracie Abrams - Good Riddance
03-xxx Nines - Crop Circle 3
03-xxx Baby Queen - Quarter Life Crisis

#04
04-10 Adam Lambert - High Drama
04-12 Pink Floyd - The Dark Side of the Moon (Live at Wembley 1974)
04-12 PJ Harvey - I Inside the Old Year Dying
04-15 Pet Shop Boys - Smash - The Singles 1985-2020
04-15 The Chemical Brothers - For That Beautiful Feeling
04-15 Black Stone Cherry - Screamin' at the Sky
04-15 Jung Kook - Golden
04-16 Duran Duran - Danse Macabre
04-19 Ghost - Phantomime
04-21 David Bowie - Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars - OST [Reissue of 1983 album]
04-27 De La Soul - 3 Feet High and Rising [Reissue of 1989 album]
04-30 Post Malone - Austin
04-33 Orbital - Optical Delusion
04-34 Mimi Webb - Amelia
04-39 Miles Kane - One Man Band
04-40 Taylor Swift - folklore: the long pond studio sessions
04-40 Reverend & The Makers - Heatwave in the Cold North
04-41 Christine and the Queens - Paranoia, Angels, True Love
04-66 The Streets - The Darker the Shadow the Brighter the Light
04-84 NF - HOPE
04-91 Ashnikko - Weedkiller
04-xxx Lovejoy - Wake Up & It's Over
04-xxx Passenger - All the Little Lights - Anniversary

#05
05-06 Cher - Christmas
05-08 Eva Cassidy, London Symphony Orchestra & Christopher Willis - I Can Only Be Me (Orchestral)
05-10 Texas - The Very Best Of - 1989-2023
05-13 James Blunt - Who We Used to Be
05-14 Freya Ridings - Blood Orange
05-17 N-Dubz - Timeless
05-22 Luke Combs - Gettin' Old
05-41 Troye Sivan - Something to Give Each Other
05-45 Lana Del Rey - Ultraviolence [Reissue of 2014 album]
05-xxx Digga D - Back to Square One
05-xxx Headie One & K-Trap

#06
06-17 The Damned - Darkadelic
06-17 Ateez - The World EP 2 - Outlaw
06-19 Alfie Boe - Open Arms - The Symphonic Songbook
06-41 New Order - Substance [Reissue of 1987 album]
06-62 Johnny Marr - Spirit Power - The Best Of
06-72 Joel Corry - Another Friday Night [Note: This album was charting for 12 weeks prior to its physical/download release]
06-xxx J Hus - Beautiful and Brutal Yard
06-xxx When Rivers Meet - Aces Are High

#07
07-14 Pink Floyd - The Dark Side of the Moon [Reissue of 1973 album]
07-57 Chase & Status - 2 RUFF, Vol. 1
07-95 Casisdead - Famous Last Words
07-xxx Potter Payper - Real Back in Style
07-xxx M Huncho - My Neighbours Don't Know

#08
N/A

#09
09-94 Nicki Minaj - Pink Friday 2
09-xxx Clavish - Rap Game Awful

#10
10-57 Nines - Crop Circle 2
10-xxx Tate McRae - Think Later

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11-44 Noah Kahan - Stick Season
12-xxx Fredo - Unfinished Business
15-xxx Doja Cat - Scarlet
29-xxx D-Block Europe - DBE World
36-xxx Drake - For All the Dogs
87-xxx Travis Scott - Utopia

xxx = fell out of the Top 100


These official Top 10 peaking albums weren't in the Top 100 sales charts in their first two weeks:

Davido - Timeless
Gunna - A Gift & A Curse
Lil Uzi Vert - Pink Tape
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Thank you for amazing stats, Jay!

We all know why this is all happening, but this is still all sad and dire to look at. I hope at some point OCC rethink the way they compile the album chart to highlight which albums, not playlists, people are streaming during the week.
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So far three albums that debuted in the top 10 have managed a second week there then.

Dire.
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It's all so depressing sad.gif
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People should start looking at the sales chart as the real album charts
Since the occ is not capable of
Making a realistic streaming chart

Who cares if people stream This is Elton John
Thats a playlist not an album
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Literally everyone is a fanbase act nowadays
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The ellie drops pains me
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Maybe one of the reasons OCC doesn’t want to rethink the album chart is because without streaming playlists and with excluding compilations streams the sales will look even more dire.

But then you can up-weight the remaining streams! As they (actual album streams not from playlists) clearly are worth more.
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post 25th April 2023, 05:26 AM
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^Exactly, count only album streams proper and give them more weight.
Indie albums will benefit the most cos their songs are not on playlists but they are being streamed well if you look at the kworb apple album chart

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Updated, including a record 01-126 fall for Enter Shikari! (In terms of the second week position of a #1 album). Can The Lottery Winners break that record after just a week?

01-71 for The 1975 in the sales-only chart is surely the biggest fall from #1 ever? It sold 363 copies!
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Unfortunately signs are this will carry on, quite depressing indeed. Great piece of stats there, Jay.
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Last year, a third of albums which entered in the Top 3 dropped out of the Top 40 the following week. This year so far, it's half - and with two of last week's Top 3 set to drop out, it will climb above 50%.
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We have our first 1-out! Straight out of the Top 200 for The Lottery Winners - Anxiety Replacement Therapy.

On the other hand, Nines becomes the first #2 peaking album of 2023 to actually stay in the Top 10, at #2 - which also makes it the first non-mover.

We're still yet to see a #6 album manage a second week in the Top 200, with Reverend & The Makers being the latest #6 to dive straight out of the chart.
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Comparisons:

The Lottery Winners - Anxiety Replacement Therapy
01-xxx Official Albums Chart
01-16 Official Albums Sales Chart

Nines - Crop Circle 2
02-02 Official Albums Chart
10-57 Official Albums Sales Chart

Jessie Ware - That! Feels Good!
03-68 Official Albums Chart
02-09 Official Albums Sales Chart

The National - First Two Pages of Frankenstein
04-45 Official Albums Chart
03-07 Official Albums Sales Chart

Reverend & The Makers - Heatwave in the Cold North
06-xxx Official Albums Chart
04-40 Official Albums Sales Chart

Freya Ridings - Blood Orange
07-121 Official Albums Chart
05-14 Official Albums Sales Chart

The Damned - Darkadelic
09-xxx Official Albums Chart
06-17 Official Albums Sales Chart

A sorry state of affairs that being #16 in the sales chart isn't enough to be Top 200 in the official chart.


I do wonder how record labels can be satisifed with their new album releases being 1 week affairs. Can EMI honestly think "That! Feels Good!" ( kink.gif ) to see Jessie Ware fall from #3 to #68? I know it boils down to people simply not buying or streaming albums in their droves beyond the first week... but you'd think record labels would want Official Charts to do something to cushion the blow, to at least make the albums appear that they're doing better than they are?

It continues to amaze me that Official Charts are apparently fine with the state of the albums chart, with numerous Greatest Hits and old albums occupying roughly the same positions every week. Whereas for the singles chart, they've been concerned to make it appear as fresh as possible (although that's slipped a bit in recent times with the likes of As It Was and Green Green Grass). What makes the album chart different for them? Why do they not want to strive to make that seem fresh and current, to reflect modern music releases more so than catalogue music? I know this discussion happens every so often and it's repetitive and nothing changes, but it's frustrating.
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I agree 1000%, the model is just wrong cos it's not reflecting album streaming properly, especially for indie artists
didn't follow how Lottery Winners did on streaming this week
but for instance The National's album was top 10-20 on Apple Album streams all week
guess thats why they didn't do half bad in the end, but actually should be much higher if album streams were counted properly
and excluding playlists streams where indie artists have zero presence

but actually same applies to artists like Freya Ridings or Jessie Ware
Jessie has been top 20 all week on Apple Album streams, even now she's #23
but that's not been reflected in the album streams counts

cannot see how labels like, also taking into account it's mainly favouring US artists
there's less and less UK artists in the Album charts every week
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post 13th May 2023, 07:20 AM
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QUOTE(Bjork @ May 13 2023, 02:13 PM) *
guess thats why they didn't do half bad in the end, but actually should be much higher if album streams were counted properly
and excluding playlists streams where indie artists have zero presence

Why does it matter what page someone is sourcing their stream from?? I don't ever understand this weird 'hmm I manually queued up my stream therefore I'm really listening to the song' elitism. I own four albums by The National but that attitude makes me want to root against them honestly.
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post 13th May 2023, 08:09 AM
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I mean, streaming the album vs songs from the album that are in playlists like HH or TTH (not on people personal playlists)

it's not the same searching for Miley's album and streaming it from start to finish
vs giving her album streams cos she has 3 songs on HH or TTH


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post 13th May 2023, 08:15 AM
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Is it just no one listens to new albums anymore, people only listen to various songs so they are reflected on the singles sales or people are now listening by other means that isn’t reflected?
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post 13th May 2023, 08:33 AM
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QUOTE(-Jay- @ May 13 2023, 04:27 AM) *
It continues to amaze me that Official Charts are apparently fine with the state of the albums chart, with numerous Greatest Hits and old albums occupying roughly the same positions every week. Whereas for the singles chart, they've been concerned to make it appear as fresh as possible (although that's slipped a bit in recent times with the likes of As It Was and Green Green Grass). What makes the album chart different for them? Why do they not want to strive to make that seem fresh and current, to reflect modern music releases more so than catalogue music? I know this discussion happens every so often and it's repetitive and nothing changes, but it's frustrating.

I honestly think they're not bothered so long as there's still the newsworthy moments like fresh #1s and new entries to the Top 10. People don't follow the album chart in the same way they do the singles (i.e. no Top 40 album chart for them to listen to) so they don't have to worry so much about it being 'entertaining' for people. You do raise a very good point about record labels surely not being happy with albums from their respective artists collapsing out of the chart unless they have strong streaming, I wonder if this would cause the OCC to review the way they produce the album chart but presumably something would have happened before now if record labels had that sort of sway.
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