In everywhere EXCEPT the UK I expect. The physical is scheduled for 23 November, I expect the UK digital release will be held back :(

 

It was her UK email though! And it said the physical was still going ahead November 23rd.

Guess we will know on Sunday! :unsure:

A #2-peaking single is a semi hit? Get real! Any #2 single as a MAJOR hit, I'm guessing the likes of Untouchable or The Loving Kind must be off-the-radar flops in your eyes if you consider a #2 peaking single as a flop. :rolleyes

 

No, really, FIO is a semi-hit, fact. "MAJOR hits" are songs like 'Poker Face', 'I Gotta Feeling' and 'Fight for this Love'.

Yeh, forever is over is a semi hit, not a major hit.

A #2-peaking single is a semi hit? Get real! Any #2 single as a MAJOR hit, I'm guessing the likes of Untouchable or The Loving Kind must be off-the-radar flops in your eyes if you consider a #2 peaking single as a flop. :rolleyes

 

You're really making a twat of yourself in front of everyone's eyes really.

I didn't say it was a flop, I said it was a semi-hit, at best. What matters is the overall sales of a single and its relative stability, not the first week peak position. McFly's singles have all peaked very high, but only a very very few of them can be considered as hits.

"Untouchable" and "The Loving Kind" are relative flops, it doesn't pain me to say it. Although they were released on the back of a double platinium album. Which is clearly not the case of FIO.

A certain chart position does not make a single a hit. Both 'In for the Kill' and 'Forever is Over' reached number two, does that mean they're equal hits?

A certain chart position does not make a single a hit. Both 'In for the Kill' and 'Forever is Over' reached number two, does that mean they're equal hits?

 

Exactly - positions need to be backed up by sales and chart runs and styaing power.

 

FOI got to number 2 - doesn't make it an instance success at all, look at Orson they got to number 1 on sales of around 20k then plummetting faster than Katie Price's popularity. FOI is more flop than major hit.

 

In fact the idea that FOI was a success is ludacris - if your only worried about where the single ended up on the first week then fair enough it got to number 2 and was a hit, but calling it a MAJOR hit is stupid, it was incredibly low selling and looks set to drop like a stone - like the album - number 9 debut now looks set to fall to the very end of the top 40 come sunday.

You're really making a twat of yourself in front of everyone's eyes really.

 

I didn't say it was a flop, I said it was a semi-hit, at best. What matters is the overall sales of a single and its relative stability, not the first week peak position. McFly's singles have all peaked very high, but only a very very few of them can be considered as hits.

"Untouchable" and "The Loving Kind" are relative flops, it doesn't pain me to say it. Although they were released on the back of a double platinium album. Which is clearly not the case of FIO.

Thank god someone else said it. :cheer:

 

I'm sick fed up of reading inane comments from someone who clearly doesn't have a clue about the charts bandying their silly opinions around as fact both here and in the SCP thread.

 

A certain chart position does not make a single a hit. Both 'In for the Kill' and 'Forever is Over' reached number two, does that mean they're equal hits?

Exactly. Were Robbie William's "Angels" and Leon Jackson's "Don't Call This Love" equal hits? Both peaked at #4 :rofl:

Yes quite - be reasonable Fantastique, or I will get my ban or suspend button out <_>

 

You all make valid points about chart positions not being the definition of a hit - Spiidey's example of Angels and that rubbish from Leon Jackson proves that!

Okay, let me just clear some air. Forever Is Over IS a hit, not a semi hit. Maybe the "major" adjective I used was a bit of a hyperbole and I know that a good chart placing doesn't make a single a hit without good sales. But what I'm saying is a song that reached #2 is a hit, not a half or semi hit, regardless of its sales or chart run - the song beat 98 other songs in the top 100 to get to that position so it is definitely a hit.

 

The word "semi" is what bothered me because that implies you saying FIO was just barely a hit when it wasn't. And the song isn't having a McFly-like run but more of Girls Aloud-like one. 69k in two weeks by any single is excellent and should be considered as a proper hit, maybe not a major hit, but there's no denying the fact that it did miss #1 by one place and sold 69k in two weeks which are two typical factors of any proper hit. In For The Kill was a major hit, FIO was a proper hit and as an example New In Town could be classified as a semi-hit, not FIO - hopefuly people understand what I'm trying to point out now. :lol:

New In Town could be classified as a semi-hit

 

I'd say Remedy was a semi-hit & New In Town was umm a bit of a flop maybe.

I'd say Remedy was a semi-hit & New In Town was umm a bit of a flop maybe.

I disagree. That's way too high standards, if top 15 is considered a flop then something like 8 out of 9 artists would be only releasing a string consecutive flops on the trot. Remedy is a proper hit, NIT is a semi hit. A flop would be something like Drumming Song by Florence & The Machine or Britney's Radar. Anything that reached the top 20 with decent sales I'd consider a semi hit but anything that missed it with not so decent sales would be a flop.

I disagree. That's way too high standards, if top 15 is considered a flop then something like 8 out of 9 artists would be only releasing a string consecutive flops on the trot. Remedy is a proper hit, NIT is a semi hit. A flop would be something like Drumming Song by Florence & The Machine or Britney's Radar. Anything that reached the top 20 with decent sales I'd consider a semi hit but anything that missed it with not so decent sales would be a flop.

 

Yeh but the way she was hyped up, you would have expected New In Town to go top 10, also it was a lead single and not 4th like Britney's Radar.

 

Is this still the iTunes thread? :lol:

 

 

Is this still the iTunes thread? :lol:

 

:kink:

 

Has Lily Allen's Who'd Have Known entered yet?

All this talk of semi's and flops. It's not right to discuss spiideys sex life in the iTunes thread :(

In my eyes, anything that hits the top 40 is a hit. :mellow:

 

Anyway, Meet Me Halfway finally top 10, it's grown on me a lot now. :)

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Earthquake is umm making waves at #733 ^_^ on the up

It looks like we know the #1s for the next few weeks.

 

JLS on The X Factor - 8th November

Leona Lewis on The X Factor - 15th November

 

This Week: Cheryl

Next Week: Cheryl

Week after: JLS

Week after: Leona

It looks like we know the #1s for the next few weeks.

 

JLS on The X Factor - 8th November

Leona Lewis on The X Factor - 15th November

 

This Week: Cheryl

Next Week: Cheryl

Week after: JLS

Week after: Leona

 

BORING

 

I hope you're wrong..

 

JLS won't be performing on X Factor apparently. :)