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What interview have I missed where they are joking about 3 or 4 formations.

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Very much a fan of live and let live, all opinions are welcome in this Forum but lord is that testing me.

 

 

For anyone else who raised an eyebrow at this, Prepotent in English means „greater than others in power or influence“. It’s a false friend with Spanish where it means arrogant.

 

So at least I learned a new English and Spanish word today

Completely passed me by in that interview what point was trying to be made :unsure: :lol:

They’ve always said that Heidi is a key part of the bands history and they have huge respect for all that she contributed to the band and their success and for her as a person and there’s no beef. They just don’t want to get 2.0 back together. Importantly, and what people always forget, is that NEITHER DOES BLOODY HEIDI. She’s really happy away from the spotlight being a mum and getting on with her family life. Let her be.

 

 

We have some form of Sugababes back so let’s just be thankful for that (and that it’s not 4.0) instead of bitterly holding onto a past glory and line up that is never coming back and twisting facts and falsehoods to suit a weird agenda. Like fine if you’d rather 2.0 was back. That’s legitimate. But it’s never happening. So get over it and just enjoy that we are actually getting something from this incredible band again.

They’ve always said that Heidi is a key part of the bands history and they have huge respect for all that she contributed to the band and their success and for her as a person and there’s no beef. They just don’t want to get 2.0 back together. Importantly, and what people always forget, is that NEITHER DOES BLOODY HEIDI. She’s really happy away from the spotlight being a mum and getting on with her family life. Let her be.

We have some form of Sugababes back so let’s just be thankful for that (and that it’s not 4.0) instead of bitterly holding onto a past glory and line up that is never coming back and twisting facts and falsehoods to suit a weird agenda. Like fine if you’d rather 2.0 was back. That’s legitimate. But it’s never happening. So get over it and just enjoy that we are actually getting something from this incredible band again.

 

 

I mean wouldn’t say never. If Siobhan were to leave again and Heidi wished to join I am sure Keisha and Mutya would be up for it. Strangers things have happened in the music industry.

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I said never for a reason. 1.0 have repeatedly said it’s 1.0 or nothing. They have no interest in the revolving door and neither would work with Heidi again after snake-gate
Honestly, I could see odd line up constellations 15-20 or so years from now where they perform the hits - ie Mutya, Heidi and Jade or something odd like that. But it's a long way down the road.
I said never for a reason. 1.0 have repeatedly said it’s 1.0 or nothing. They have no interest in the revolving door and neither would work with Heidi again after snake-gate

 

 

Pretty sure Mutya would have said hell no never ever to big brother at one point… like I said never say never

I also think it won’t happen but mainly because I don’t see Heidi wanting to, she seems very content with her life now, also because this line up seem quite happy too. Not because of Keisha and Mutya refusing to do it. Once upon a time they would both have point blank refused to work with Siobhan again, especially considering she called Keisha a bully several times, Mutya would have point blank refused to do any kind of reality show (hello Big Brother). Money and opportunity talks when you run out of options.
I also think it won’t happen but mainly because I don’t see Heidi wanting to, she seems very content with her life now, also because this line up seem quite happy too. Not because of Keisha and Mutya refusing to do it. Once upon a time they would both have point blank refused to work with Siobhan again, especially considering she called Keisha a bully several times, Mutya would have point blank refused to do any kind of reality show (hello Big Brother). Money and opportunity talks when you run out of options.

 

To be quite honest, the only way Heidi re-joining the group would be an option would be if any of them leaves and in terms of that happening it would be Siobhan as Heidi really couldn't handle singing anyone else's parts. And I don't see Siobhan leaving any time, erm, soon if she's been with the group now for the past 10 (!) years. I don't really see any huge fall out happening either at this point as they all seem past the drama, so it would have to be a "I don't want to do this anymore" sort of thing. I guess the money they can charge for a gig could simply become too unappealing for her that her regular day job would be seen as more profitable for her.

 

But as I said - I wouldn't be too surprised if 15-20 years from now we'll get odd line up constellations performing at random events.

To be quite honest, the only way Heidi re-joining the group would be an option would be if any of them leaves and in terms of that happening it would be Siobhan as Heidi really couldn't handle singing anyone else's parts. And I don't see Siobhan leaving any time, erm, soon if she's been with the group now for the past 10 (!) years. I don't really see any huge fall out happening either at this point as they all seem past the drama, so it would have to be a "I don't want to do this anymore" sort of thing. I guess the money they can charge for a gig could simply become too unappealing for her that her regular day job would be seen as more profitable for her.

 

But as I said - I wouldn't be too surprised if 15-20 years from now we'll get odd line up constellations performing at random events.

 

 

I agree whole heartedly in fact I went as far as to say so in my post.

 

The bit I am pointing out is the “these girls wouldn’t lower themselves to working with a Heidi again” “Siobhan is vastly superior to Heidi / contributes more than Heidi” voices when in all reality time heals a lot of wounds (as seen with Siobhan), and the girls have done things that once upon a time they would have said no chance to.

 

I will say, saying ten years in the group is a bit of a stretch when they haven’t really done anything in that ten years as an active group, but I agree again I can’t see Siobhan leaving now unless there is another fall out, there is no way she can earn as much as the three can command for corporate gigs etc, if Melanie C charges 60k an hour plus expenses for a solo gig I am sure they are commanding 3x that between them. However I am also sure that they would likely make 5x that if they had 2:0 line up and “if” Siobhan left due to a fall out I wouldn’t say Heidi would “never” be able to rejoin based on Keisha and Mutyas “principles”

 

Ps before anyone calls me a Heidi Stan Mutya has and always will be my favourite it was never the same without her!

I very much 2.0 would make "5x" what 1.0 are making. For better or worse, Sugababes were never as recogniseable as individual members as a lot of other groups are so I don't really think a lot of people would give a toss to give them such a pay upgrade for Heidi.
I very much 2.0 would make "5x" what 1.0 are making. For better or worse, Sugababes were never as recogniseable as individual members as a lot of other groups are so I don't really think a lot of people would give a toss to give them such a pay upgrade for Heidi.

 

 

Sorry I should clarify I didn't mean 5x the amount 1:0 are making I meant 5x what Melanie C makes. Definitely think the 2:0 line up would command a higher rate than 1:0, think it is rather delusional to even think otherwise.

Sorry I should clarify I didn't mean 5x the amount 1:0 are making I meant 5x what Melanie C makes. Definitely think the 2:0 line up would command a higher rate than 1:0, think it is rather delusional to even think otherwise.

 

I honestly doubt that. Like tommie said, as long as they play the big hits I think the general public is happy with that :lol:

I respectfully disagree. It’s like a line up of S Club 7 would bring in more than S Club 6… more recognisable to the public as a line up therefore more likely to pull in bigger crowds. Maybe not to the extent I said but certainly more. I also think Heidi, Amelle and Jade wouldn’t get anywhere near as much as MKS.

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Sorry I should clarify I didn't mean 5x the amount 1:0 are making I meant 5x what Melanie C makes. Definitely think the 2:0 line up would command a higher rate than 1:0, think it is rather delusional to even think otherwise.

 

Perhaps slightly higher, but I'm not even sure about that to be honest because ultimately a lot of it has to do with recognisability of the individual members. Like, Atomic Kitten with Kerry Katona probably commanded a higher rate than Atomic Kitten with Jenny Frost, at least initially, because of Kerry's fame (although I'd assume their rates got bolstered more by the recent Whole Again as a soccer theme significantly). Heidi barely had a profile while she was in the Sugababes and essentially none now. She also didn't sing lead vocals on any of their hits that makes her voice instantly recognizeable like Dawn Richardson of En Vogue (as an example - and again En Vogue couldn't make enough to more money to make Dawn stay).

 

Or another example, Bananarama didn't get high enough long-term rates for taking Siobhan back in the group to make it work with her (and allegedly she was willing to!). Or as another example - would The Three Degrees get a significant bump in their rates if Sheila re-joined?

 

I respectfully disagree. It’s like a line up of S Club 7 would bring in more than S Club 6… more recognisable to the public as a line up therefore more likely to pull in bigger crowds. Maybe not to the extent I said but certainly more. I also think Heidi, Amelle and Jade wouldn’t get anywhere near as much as MKS.

 

That's because S Club 7 had a tv series where they got to know individual members, plus the number is kind of in the name. And Jade, Heidi and Amelle just has little selling point - their main one was in the past that they were the Sugababes and sang their hits. Add the press slaughter of that line up, so...

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They're currently at the The Langham Hotel, though no idea what for. Could be another private gig?

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