Oh seriously, put your toys back in the pram and stop crying wolf everytime something happens that you don't like. :P

 

We should all be celebrating the fact that we have a genuine chart battle on our hands (which I, for one, find exciting) and it really can still go either way on Sunday. I still can't call it - I keep thinking we'll know more in the next set of mids but Wednesday's and Thursday's mids have made it even more tight and tomorrow's might give us a better indication but then again they might not.

It's true though, IMO such is evil, Simon now knows what the public wants and there's no need to tinker with it 'if he wants what is good for us'. Cheating will then finally be his last resort, which should get the whole song disqualified if this plan really goes into force. <_<

The physical market has as much validity as downloads, if not more because the price to purchase is more. Why scrap a the traditional, and perfectly valid way of purchasing music? I, for one, cannot see a reason? (perhaps because you didn't give one...)

I think it was sarcasm from him ;)

I still think it's going to be really close on Sunday

 

I like The X Factor but it really is interesting having a real chart battle, the first in ages (at any time of year, not just xmas). As a fan of Joe's I'm not that bothered because I'm sure he will be #1 next week anyway.

 

 

I really hate how X Factor dominates the UK chart

I really hate that the Christmas number 1 is/was always the X Factor winner

I really hate though the campaign against the X Factor too.

 

Awful top 2, and I'm really not interested in the chart this week, because it is "fixed". This is really not what the Christmas chart should look like and this really ruins my fanatism into charts.

 

Plus to see these two songs also in the Year-end chart quite high is scandalous.

 

That's my opinion :(

 

Me too. Both campaigns (if you can call X Factor that) are as fake as each other. So for me, number 1 is still Lady Gaga :kink:

Got them, Pet Shop Boys have fallen like a lead balloon :snif: bear with me

The physical market has as much validity as downloads, if not more because the price to purchase is more. Why scrap a the traditional, and perfectly valid way of purchasing music? I, for one, cannot see a reason? (perhaps because you didn't give one...)

Oh I only buy physical, this is the first download I've bought since Summer... I won't be able to describe the sadness in me when I see some acts download only. However if this is really the only way to keep the X Factor off the top spot, give me downloads any day. I'd happily give physicals up forever for this one Xmas no.1 :unsure:

RATM have no real chance of beating X-Factor to number 1 this week. I have just spoken to my bookie, and he is only offering 1/4 on Joe. This, in a 2 horse race, is what's known as a 'dead cert'.

 

Sorry to burst anyone's bubble, but I think most music 'insiders' already know this but they want to keep the 'illusion' alive. After all, if they can keep the hype going, it's more money in the pocket for them isn't it?

 

Even so, the figures speak for themselves. Rage ARE outselling Joe by a good margin. It's going to be really close by the end of the week, no one can possibly call it yet.

It's true though, IMO such is evil, Simon now knows what the public wants and there's no need to tinker with it 'if he wants what is good for us'. Cheating will then finally be his last resort, which should get the whole song disqualified if this plan really goes into force. <_<

Eh? Cheating? Plenty artists have EP's on the iTunes album chart - I suppose they are cheating too :P :rofl:

Got them, Pet Shop Boys have fallen like a lead balloon :snif: bear with me

 

They better still be in there :snif:

Here is an article which sums up why this campaign is so great and why Tom Morello is a god.

 

Rage Against The Machine star Tom Morello has described the campaign to make the band's 1993 hit 'Killing In The Name' the Christmas number one as a "little dose of anarchy".

 

The musician praised the British public for purchasing the song and insisted that music fans want more than being "spoon-fed some overblown sugary ballad" by Simon Cowell.

 

"This is a grass roots effort. It's nothing against the candidates or the guy that runs the show. Your country has such a great, rich history of cutting edge, exciting rebel music, whether it be the early Stones or Who, the Clash and the Sex Pistols or Prodigy and Muse," he told BBC 6 Music.

 

"I think people are just fed up of being spoon-fed some overblown sugary ballad that sits on top of the charts. It's a little dose of anarchy for the holidays, it's good for the soul.

 

"I don't think there is anything cynical about it. In the spirit of great rebel music, and all the best music is rebel music, they are taking up the torch for music in the UK. That top spot doesn't belong to anybody - any TV show or any '90s political rock band. Let the people decide."

 

:)

Eh? Cheating? Plenty artists have EP's on the iTunes album chart - I suppose they are cheating too :P :rofl:

Yeah, and they release them on Friday, not on Monday :rolleyes:

RATM have no real chance of beating X-Factor to number 1 this week. I have just spoken to my bookie, and he is only offering 1/4 on Joe. This, in a 2 horse race, is what's known as a 'dead cert'.

 

Sorry to burst anyone's bubble, but I think most music 'insiders' already know this but they want to keep the 'illusion' alive. After all, if they can keep the hype going, it's more money in the pocket for them isn't it?

 

That's absolute nonsense - nobody can control the buying habits of the public. I'll admit that there's still going to be a massive surge towards X Factor on Saturday when the kids go out to town with their pocket money but there is no certainty. What odds is he giving on RATM by the way?

I'd love RATM to be number one, it would really rub Cowell's nose in it. For the record I like the x factor as a show (though not the winner this year and certainly not the song) but dislike their domination of the Christmas charts every year. I think sadly it will be the same this year, the physicals will be enough for the x factor to win it by Sunday. One thing that does irritate me, supermarket single sales should not count when there is only one song available, it's clearly not a remotely level playing field. Just my two cents.

More than 80,000 CD sales yesterday were not enough to allow Joe McElderry’s The Climb to overtake Rage Against The Machine’s Killing In the Name at the top of the midweek singles charts.

 

However, the physical release of the single from the X Factor winner did allow it to cut the LA band’s lead at the top of the midweeks to just under 37,000 copies today from around 65,000 yesterday, according to figures from the Official Charts Company.

 

Killing In The Name has sold around 253,000 copies so far this week, all of them digital. The majority of The Climb’s sales are still digital but this may change with the CD single now widely available.

 

Many retailers who do not traditionally stock CD singles – including Asda and Tesco – are stocking The Climb on CD.

 

The two singles are leading one of the closest races in years for the Christmas number one single. A number of bookmakers have now installed Rage Against The Machine as the favourite to top the festive charts.

 

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Thursday Update Top 40 Only

 

 

Singles

 

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1 Rage Against The Machine 253k

2 Joe McElderry 216k

3 Lady GaGa

4 Peter Kay

5 Robbie Williams

 

Top 10

6 Cheryl Cole

7 3OH!3 feat Katy Perry

8 Journey

 

Top 15

11George Michael

 

Top 20

Michael Buble

 

Top 30

Alexandra Burke

27 Leona Lewis [sCYHO]

28 Miley Cyrus

 

Top 40

32 Saturdays

33 Pet Shop Boys

Luther Vandross

Queen & The Muppets

 

 

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Albums

 

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1 Susan Boyle

2 Michael Buble

3 Black Eyed Peas

4 JLS

5 Lady GaGa

 

Top 10

Snow Patrol

7 Robbie Williams

8 Leona Lewis

 

Top 15

12 Will Young

13 Cheryl Cole

15 Alicia Keys

 

Top 20

Paolo Nutini

20 Alexandra Burke

 

Top 30

Fleetwood Mac

Paul McCartney

 

Top 40

Chris Moyles

Seal

Katherine Jenkins [believe]

Florence & The Machine

 

 

 

NO SALES INFO

 

 

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Artists Mini-Update

 

Singles

 

Alicia Keys 10+5

Cheryl "National Treasure" Cole FFTL 10+7

Pixie Lott 12+12

Pogues 20+2

JLS [EIL] 20+5

Mariah 20+3

Leona Lewis 30+5

 

Albums

 

Take That 5+5

Will Young 6+6

Michael Jackson 10+7

Rihanna 20+3

N-Dubz 20+1

Spiidey. This is to close to call, I agree. Ive been doing all sorts of calculations, but cant call it. Saturday sales will really decide it. I note RATM have increased their lead on Itunes this morning to about 150%, making it even harder to call!.

 

General observation. SuBo on for 300K + this week?. going on yesterdays sales.

 

Edited December 17, 200916 yr by Olympus

That's absolute nonsense - nobody can control the buying habits of the public. I'll admit that there's still going to be a massive surge towards X Factor on Saturday when the kids go out to town with their pocket money but there is no certainty. What odds is he giving on RATM by the way?

 

He's giving 3-1 at the moment on RATM Richie, but I expect it to be at least 5-1 by Friday evening. I know a lot more about betting than I do music, I have to admit, but my bookie does not offer 3-1 on a 2 horse race, ever! 1-4 on Joe shows how sure he is at the moment and, don't forget, that is with RATM being in the lead as we speak! ;)

 

 

He's giving 3-1 at the moment on RATM Richie, but I expect it to be at least 5-1 by Friday evening. I know a lot more about betting than I do music, I have to admit, but my bookie does not offer 3-1 on a 2 horse race, ever! 1-4 on Joe shows how sure he is at the moment and, don't forget, that is with RATM being in the lead as we speak! ;)

Yeap, and bookies have always been correct :teresa:

William Hill spokesman speaks;

 

"The momentum has switched away from Rage and the odds suggest that Joe will be the sixth X Factor winner in a row to have the Christmas number one," said Hill's spokesman Rupert Adams.

 

from here

 

the more that people come out with stuff like 'it's done and dusted, Joe's won it now' - the more the RATM Facebook group will keep buying and fight back in my opinion - if Joe is say only 10k shy of Rage in tomorrow's midweeks, or in front - the group will go into meltdown and all download it again, I can almost guarantee it

i want George Michael to be top 10 this week, even though i doubt it will happen...

Edited December 17, 200916 yr by Lady Tata

William Hill spokesman speaks;

 

"The momentum has switched away from Rage and the odds suggest that Joe will be the sixth X Factor winner in a row to have the Christmas number one," said Hill's spokesman Rupert Adams.

 

from here

 

the more that people come out with stuff like 'it's done and dusted, Joe's won it now' - the more the RATM Facebook group will keep buying and fight back in my opinion - if Joe is say only 10k shy of Rage in tomorrow's midweeks, or in front - the group will go into meltdown and all download it again, I can almost guarantee it

 

 

Won't OCC disqualify them for Bulk buying :unsure: