Plan B - Stay Too Long already up to #38! Suprise hit, could reach top 10.

 

I'm not surprised its never off the radio, everytime I turn it on it seems to be on :)

Despite a higher peak it has only just sold 50,000 thousand while CL has sold 300,000. Very very poor but I don't think they will get dropped though as they still have a big fanbase and their singles are charting well-ish.

 

Both albums have peaked at #9.

I'm no Sats Fan but it would be mad to drop them. They've had two top 10 albums (ok one has sold appallingly) and 5 (nearly 6) top 10 hits. Work only flopped peak-wise cos it was out to download for a long time.

 

What their management need to do is cut this era short (unless they have a mega-hit up (hint hint :lol:) their sleeve) and get them in the studio writing and recording with producers trying to re-create their signature sound which made them successful in the first-place. Imo, Ego is second-rate (possibly third-rate) compared to their debut material - which isn't to my taste but was undoubtedly popular. I'm not saying they should use a tried-and-tested formula (a la Kelly Clarkson), i'm just saying they should stick to a more approachable, appealing sound.

Both albums have peaked at #9.

 

Difference being that CL debuted at #13 or something, dropped, peaked when Issues was released and then stuck around the top 100 for a few more months. Wordshaker debuted at #9 and dropped like a stone.

 

This shows that only the die hard Sats fans purchased Wordshaker when it was released, as they were probably the only people who knew it was out. With CL you can tell that the die hard fans got it to #13 and then after Issues was released the general public purchased the album as well.

 

As long as 'Ego', 'Here Standing' and the 4th single (if there is one) sell well plus the album enters and re-enters the top 100 over the months then i'm sure they'll be fine. They're good singers, have started songwriting, can play instruments and have a very loyal fanbase. The management MUST know that The Sats aren't to blame for this era flopping.

Of course the option is to drop them. Thats what you do with acts who don't make money. The record companies arent charities doing it for the good will of the artists are they?

 

They have invested a heck of a lot of money in The Saturdays just to drop them. They would lose more money dropping them now than finishing out the campaign.

Intresting Updates:

4. Fireflies (UK Radio Edit) - Owl City

8. Broken Heels - Alexandra Burke

9. One Time - Justin Bieber

12. Young Forever (feat. Mr. Hudson) - Jay-Z

20. Ego - The Saturdays

35. Stay Too Long - Plan B

40. Many of Horror - Biffy Clyro

47. Never Forget You - Noisettes

62. Do You Want the Truth or Something Beautiful? - Paloma Faith

68. One Shot - JLS

105. Hard (feat. Jeezy) - Rihanna

132. Stay Too Long (Pendulum Remix) - Plan B

180. You Used to Hold Me - Calvin Harris

206. The Way I Are - Timbaland, D.O.E. & Keri Hilson

228. BedRock - Young Money & Lloyd

35. Stay Too Long - Plan B

62. Do You Want the Truth or Something Beautiful? - Paloma Faith

68. One Shot - JLS

105. Hard (feat. Jeezy) - Rihanna

Plan B is #33 #30 on mine.

Paloma is #59 #61 on mine.

JLS is #66 #65.

Ri #102.

 

Won't bother with the rest now. XD

Edited January 10, 201015 yr by Riverside FM11

Difference being that CL debuted at #13 or something, dropped, peaked when Issues was released and then stuck around the top 100 for a few more months. Wordshaker debuted at #9 and dropped like a stone.

 

The thing is that CL was released after 2 singles, Wordshaker was released after 1 single which peaked high but only spent 6 weeks in the top 40, so was actually a bit of a failure. They needed more promo too and also the album sounded exactly the same as CL, why buy two albums exactly the same? :lol: They need to be more daring...

There is no point in having a fanbase if they don't buy the music. These numbers still don't add up, 300k+ sales to 50k sales shows that something has gone wrong. They had a reasonably big tour last year, so I'm sure they could flog an album to everyone who went! They need to forget single after single, and start doing some promo that screams "we have a new album out", rather than "it's us again!". The "eras" have merged into one.

Would it be possible for them to do a medley of songs from their album on a TV show? Like One Shot/Wordshaker/No One/Lose Control or whatever all in one short performance and have them do an interview plugging the album? Or would that be too costly/pointless?

 

 

Something definitely went wrong with this era for The Saturdays, I mean the first single did well enough but still the album bombed, the second single was generally very well recieved and is going into the top 10, but still not pushing the album back into the top 100. It seems despite the singles doing well, nobody is interested in buying their album somehow, someone asked where are all the "fans"... fans are what buy it initially, you need to appeal to the casual members of the public like they did with Chasing Lights which I believe a few weeks ago was above Wordshaker in the album chart.

 

However, as the second single has done well enough, that means Radio 1 etc will still most likely be supporting the third single which should give it an alright chance, and maybe 'Here Standing' being a fairly strong ballad may be the push the album needs. If not it really is back to the drawing board I'd say, and their future will be in the balance.

 

Shame, it is a decent enough album and all.

Would it be possible for them to do a medley of songs from their album on a TV show? Like One Shot/Wordshaker/No One/Lose Control or whatever all in one short performance and have them do an interview plugging the album? Or would that be too costly/pointless?

 

If their label asked to do that, most TV shows would be happy to allow them to. The Saturdays rarely do anything out of the ordinary, promo wise, though.

If their label asked to do that, most TV shows would be happy to allow them to. The Saturdays rarely do anything out of the ordinary, promo wise, though.

 

I think it'd be worth a shot, tbh.

It is clear where things went wrong. Yeh the first single wasn't strong enough but I don't think that can really be regarded as the reason the album sold poorly as Ego has not helped it either.

 

The first error was releasing it in October, that period of the year is overcrowded with Christmas acts and even huge stars struggle to get huge sales like Rihanna for example. They also never had the huge exposure that they had an album out like many acts did on X Factor this year.

 

Further reasons include the fact that chasing lights was on sale everywhere if you have the choice between two of their albums you will get the one with the most singles.

 

They had a huge tour and a great response at festivals so they are clearly liked we shall see how the album sells over the next few months.

on the topic of wordshaker, the song titles are so un-original, one shot (JLS), noone (alicia keys), lose control (missy eliot), 2am (3am eminem & 4am bashy) and ego (beyonce). Not impressive.

I hope they make top 10 with ego, and i agree with guru, they need to really focus on selling the album not singles really.

I'm not classified as a fan of them, but they are likeable girls and should do well, someone said they have a 'loyal fanbase' but they probably dont as if they did their album would not be doing as badly as it has done. Maybe it will pick up during quieter months where there is more room to peak say in the top 10..

Edited January 10, 201015 yr by LL1

'Issues' was the type of pop song that'd appeal to the wider audience. Perhaps the next Saturdays single will be something similar - the type of song that would appeal to the average Radio 2 listener for example. That's probably what helped sell Chasing Lights as it was the third single by that point.

 

I still think 'Forever Is Over' may have done more damage than good. It's not a good at all and who wants to hear five girls screaming their heads off to prove they can sing? It sounds even worse when performed live. :mellow:

on the topic of wordshaker, the song titles are so un-original, one shot (JLS), noone (alicia keys), lose control (missy eliot), 2am (3am eminem & 4am bashy) and ego (beyonce). Not impressive.

:mellow: If anything, JLS stole the title 'One Shot' off The Saturdays, which they DIDN'T! Secondly, none of The Saturdays' fans will know Eminem or Bashy's completely differently titled songs. :mellow::mellow::mellow:

As a poster briefly said, i think these two eras have merged into one. FIO was released a mere three months after the last single of CL. Even casual fans of the Sats would assume it's just another song from that era. They are doing the typical Girl-group thing and forcing an album release each year. If they want to release an album this autumn, release the last single of this era April at latest.

 

I also agree about getting a single like Issues out to kick the album up the butt. As a person who isn't a Sats fan, Issues appealed to me far more than Up, ITIL and JCGE.

 

But they need to return to their electro-pop sound and develop it more. FIO gives the impression Wordshaker would be all pop/rock/indie.

 

This is sort of the same trouble Leona is having/had actually. Happy wasn't commercial and therefore Echo didn't fulfil it's potential.

But Ego will have sold about 100k in total today, so that's hardly bad at all. If it doesn't drop like a bomb the record company would be insane to drop them. The only time they need to worry is if they aren't getting top10s and not sticking around the singles chart for x weeks. They probably can pay off their debts through singles sales and pa's but I doubt each girl will make anything, but if they love what they are doing they'll continue.

Edited January 10, 201015 yr by d22ghj

:mellow: If anything, JLS stole the title 'One Shot' off The Saturdays, which they DIDN'T! Secondly, none of The Saturdays' fans will know Eminem or Bashy's completely differently titled songs. :mellow::mellow::mellow:

 

It's not really about what the fans want though. The core fanbase will buy no matter what. It's about the general public. I agree with that poster. They are very un-original titles. I doubt it's a huge factor though. Wordshaker would stand out far mor as a song title - which would help give the album some recognition for obvious reasons.