It does seem that we are starting to revert back to first-week peaks, at

least for lead-off singles - and it's not just confined to those with

simultaneous physical releases, either.

It does seem that we are starting to revert back to first-week peaks, at

least for lead-off singles - and it's not just confined to those with

simultaneous physical releases, either.

 

I ams disappointed with this coming back again - it makes the chart so boring!!

 

A great example being the Sugababes! Their latest chart runs are very old-fashioned.

Good. I have no idea if im in the majority or the minority here but I really much prefer a fast moving chart instead of the same drivel hanging around for 20+ weeks.

Dont worry - the drivel will stay around.

Good. I have no idea if im in the majority or the minority here but I really much prefer a fast moving chart instead of the same drivel hanging around for 20+ weeks.

 

Agreed totally! I find it way more exciting and interesting that way. It makes the long-runners seem more of an achievement than 9/10 singles doing it.

 

With some singles it may seem like they peak too soon or peak immediately, but I've noticed in recent months on the iTunes chart that once a lot of tracks get pushed down by newer tracks (especially if pushed out of the top 10) they don't really recover and continue to slide at either a steady or fast rate, which I think contributes to the "faster moving" chart.

I do sort of miss the time when a single spending 20 or more weeks on the Top 75 was rare, and 99% of the time it was a massive selling #1. Even a 10+ week stay seemed to be an achievement for non-Top 3 single. :lol:

 

Now so many Top 10 and even some Top 20 singles have a reasonable chance of 30/20+ weeks charting.

It's sort of better because Songs tend to not hang around for long.

 

I consider songs with a long run and weeks before a peak (which we've seen alot of recently), very much like Songs in US Chart as a result of airplay - I assume.

 

My personal chart tends to have first week peaks :kink:.

 

Thats one reason I love the UK charts so much because things would move so fast. While in here in the US song are on the charts forever................only rarely making way for new songs

Ou of interest what are the ages of those who favour a faster chart? I'm guessing they are too young to remember the charts up to the early to mid 90s while those of us who are older are probably more keen on a slower chart....

I prefer having #1 débuters / first week peakers as well.

I only really started getting into the charts about a year ago, so I really just wouldn't be able to imagine what it'd be like to have a song at number-one for 4 weeks, let alone 10 weeks like Umbrella was a few years ago!

 

Taio Cruz's number-one last year seemed to last an eternity!

Good. I have no idea if im in the majority or the minority here but I really much prefer a fast moving chart instead of the same drivel hanging around for 20+ weeks.

 

A chart can still be fast moving without songs debuting at their peak. For instance two different chart runs for a potential new single:

 

Chart run 1: 36-17-{7}-10-17-29.. which is much faster than

 

Chart run 2: {4}-6-8-12-14-19-22-28-34

 

The first is more realistic of how popularity of track changes with time, initially few people hearing but Chart run 2 is achieved by the record company holding the release back a few weeks whilst being played at radio to build up demand.

I don't care about first week peaks, what I hate most is a load of one week #1s. I want another song which can stay #1 for about 10wks, but that seems more likely to happen in the USA

 

My personal chart seems to have first week peaks a lot, or since I compile my chart on a Friday, if I hear a song on Thursday and really like it, it could make my chart low-down the next day, and climb the following week.

I really like the chart as it is right now. I feel it's exciting, but the environment still allows for songs to become monster long-runners (Use Somebody, Sex On Fire, I Gotta Feeling) or 'slow-burners' which gradually work their way up (Rude Boy). It was really ridiculous back in 2004 when 6 or 7 new entries would regularly make the top 10 and it would be a major achievement for any song to have any kind of climb anywhere in the chart... but at the same time, the chart was so boring in 2007 and early 2008, to such an extent that I pretty much totally lost interest for a while.

Good. I have no idea if im in the majority or the minority here but I really much prefer a fast moving chart instead of the same drivel hanging around for 20+ weeks.

 

The nature of the download market will ensure the most popular songs will still hang around - it's just others that won't.

Good. I have no idea if im in the majority or the minority here but I really much prefer a fast moving chart instead of the same drivel hanging around for 20+ weeks.

 

Exactly how I feel.

I feel that the charts are now better things are picking up again and also it's positive that we don't have 10/15 new entries EVERY week for the sake of it. However, I think that's been partly due to the decline of fanbase buys. Few rock acts get more than one or two top 40 singles off an album - Green Day, U2, Muse and Kasabian scraped two but in the old days someone like The Courteeners could go top 20/30 with a lead single then get at least one more top 40 from an album but that's won't happen these days unless the song has got blanket radio coverage like Biffy Clyro's "Many Of Horror".

 

It ruins the chart histories of bands, for instance when it peaked "21 Guns" was Green Day's lowest-charting UK single ever despite scoring four weeks in the top 40 and being far more of a genuine hit than something like "Redundant" or "Waiting" which peaked higher. That has a knock-on effect with album sales which mean you can't just sell 500k+ at will anymore like you could a few years ago, so the album chart has suffered majorly.

^^yeah, the popular songs still hang around like they deserve to and should for ages which shows their true appeal whereas you can spot the songs which peak in one week and fall quickley now as marketed hits like the xfactor winner!! i like the first chart run from above - the perfect example being temper trap from last year - a song that was available to dload from July last summer and yet didnt peak until mid september - it opicked up airplay from 4 musics summer festival advertisment and rose up the top 75 as radio began airing it and it then peaked in sept as the movie was released (500 days of summer). brill chart run!!