April 25, 201015 yr OTOH, if it was a Lib-Lab coaltion, they could atleast say that the majority of the public had voted for a centre-left government. A Lib-Tory alliance would have no mandate whatsoever. Anybody voting Labour will have voted for a far-right government. There is not common ground there and it's not been raised in the election to my knowledge. The mandate will be one of change, the message from both the LibDem and the Conservatives.
April 25, 201015 yr But that's where things could be different if Nick Clegg led the coalition rather than Brown. Brown could be offered something like the Foreign Office I don't think it's in Brown's personality to take such an option like Foreign Office. I could be wrong, but I doubt it.
April 25, 201015 yr Author I re-iterate what I said the other day: unless Brown or Clegg is filmed p***ing on Diana's grave in the next two weeks, it ain't happening. What happened to the predicted 100+ majority btw? Recent polls have caused me to revise it down to 25-40. :) As I type two guys from the polling organisations talking on Sky News say "Cameron will be the next PM with a small but working majority" Edited April 25, 201015 yr by Victor Meldrew
April 25, 201015 yr Recent polls have caused me to revise it down to 25-40. :) As I type two guys from the polling organisations talking on Sky News say "Cameron will be the next PM with a small but working majority" Sky News propaganda ain't it. I guess you read the NOTW today and will be buying the Sun tomorrow. For the Conservatives to have an outright majority they will have to be 10% clear of Labour. Not impossible but not the most likely result at this time. So Sky News just political trash.
April 25, 201015 yr I don't think it's in Brown's personality to take such an option like Foreign Office. I could be wrong, but I doubt it. You may well be right. I'm working on the assumption that Vince Cable would be Chancellor and the Home Secretary and Justice Secretary will be English MPs. That only leaves the Foreign Office as one of the major offices of state. If Brown says no that could kill off any deal or lead to his resignation as Labour leader.
April 25, 201015 yr You may well be right. I'm working on the assumption that Vince Cable would be Chancellor and the Home Secretary and Justice Secretary will be English MPs. That only leaves the Foreign Office as one of the major offices of state. If Brown says no that could kill off any deal or lead to his resignation as Labour leader. If he wasn't PM then he's could go to No.10 and run the economy, anything else and I think Gordon would take it bad.
April 25, 201015 yr From the Times: For all his talk of pulling together for the common weal Mr Clegg, too, would have difficulties selling a Lib-Con pact to his own side. The last Populus poll for The Times found that of those expressing a preference for the Lib Dems, 50 per cent favoured a deal with Labour in the event of a hung Parliament compared with 29 per cent favouring the Tories.
April 26, 201015 yr I read in the paper today [i say paper, it was the NOTW but it's accurate as the scumbag actually has a column in it] that Alex Salmond is to 'sue' the BBC for the right to be included in the next debate. I.e. he's major jealous that Cleggs popularity has rocketed and he knows that it'll cost the SNP seats and they are gonna get nowhere near their 20 target.
April 26, 201015 yr All irrelevant as Cameron will be PM on May 7th with a small overall majority. I'm willing to exchange name and address via PM with anyone who will bet me on that. you were predicting a safe tory landslide a few days ago... massive majority... :lol:
April 26, 201015 yr The tide has definitely turned Cameron's way, poll after poll has him stretching lead over Brown and Clegg and I think this will continue as the big day approaches. Unless Cameron totally screws up on Thursday I think he can start booking a removal van for May 7th with destination 10 Downing St
April 26, 201015 yr The tide has definitely turned Cameron's way, poll after poll has him stretching lead over Brown and Clegg and I think this will continue as the big day approaches. Unless Cameron totally screws up on Thursday I think he can start booking a removal van for May 7th with destination 10 Downing St The public have left-wing views on tax and the economy, so why would a debate on the economy where Cameron is putting forward right-wing views benefit him?
April 26, 201015 yr The public have left-wing views on tax and the economy, so why would a debate on the economy where Cameron is putting forward right-wing views benefit him? I'm not sure what you mean by left wing. Or that left-wing is the majority but even if so. If say 60% of the public are left-wing on tax and the economy, then Cameron will appeal to the other 40% and let Labour and LibDem divide up the left wing votes. Getting 40% of voters to vote Conservative would very likely be enough to get a majority in parliament.
April 26, 201015 yr I'm not sure what you mean by left wing. Or that left-wing is the majority but even if so. Polls consistently show that a significant majority of people believe wealth redistribution hasn't gone far enough and that more money should be pumped into key public services. The domestic debate was Cameron's debate to lose, because the public do have quite right-wing views on crime and immigration (although, surprisingly, apparently more than half approve of the Lib Dems' idea of an amnesty for illegals), but he screwed that one up.
April 26, 201015 yr I read in the paper today [i say paper, it was the NOTW but it's accurate as the scumbag actually has a column in it] that Alex Salmond is to 'sue' the BBC for the right to be included in the next debate. I.e. he's major jealous that Cleggs popularity has rocketed and he knows that it'll cost the SNP seats and they are gonna get nowhere near their 20 target. He is. It was the main news story on the 7PM bulletin. I guess it is not enough for him to vote in Parliament on affairs that affect England; voting the opposite way that would cost the British (i.e. including Scottish) taxpayer on things that would benefit the English (free prescription; additional rebates for English students at University; etc), yet he & his party pushed through the opposite policies for his native Scots. Still to quote the prick on Thursday Nicky Campbell's Radio 5 Live show belittling a caller with an apparent joke "I think a Tory majority (in the election) is about as likely as Steve Davis (the 52 year old semi-retired former 6 time World Snooker Champion who last won the world title in 1989) beating (fellow Scot) John Higgins (the current World Champion and world ranked #1) in the snooker". :rofl:
April 26, 201015 yr He is. It was the main news story on the 7PM bulletin. I guess it is not enough for him to vote in Parliament on affairs that affect England; voting the opposite way that would cost the British (i.e. including Scottish) taxpayer on things that would benefit the English (free prescription; additional rebates for English students at University; etc), yet he & his party pushed through the opposite policies for his native Scots. Still to quote the prick on Thursday Nicky Campbell's Radio 5 Live show belittling a caller with an apparent joke "I think a Tory majority (in the election) is about as likely as Steve Davis (the 52 year old semi-retired former 6 time World Snooker Champion who last won the world title in 1989) beating (fellow Scot) John Higgins (the current World Champion and world ranked #1) in the snooker". :rofl: LOL Fail @ him then. He's is a pain in the ass. He's not even standing as an MP this time round as he wants to concentrate on being First Minister. He said he'd do this when he got the job, lazy git just waited 3years. I was gutted when the result of our election returned a SNP minority government. Properly gutted.
April 26, 201015 yr Cameron really is getting desperate isn't he? At the weekend he suddenly announced that he'd invented a new policy. If the governing party changes leader there should be a General Election within six months. That might sound sensible initially but it isn't. For a start, we don't elect a Prime Minister, we elect MPs. Almost half the PMs who have taken office since WWII have done so as a result of a change in party leadership. Only one went for an early election. Of course if Cameron wanted to abolish the monarchy and introduce a Presidential system he'd have my support in that. He also seems to be saying that we should have had an election in 1940 when Churchill took over from Chamberlain. Then consider another possibility. What if a PM leading an unpopular government became seriously ill? The sensible move would be for them to resign but they'd be less likely to do that if it would mean an early election. The same applies if the PM died. Why should there have to be an early election?
April 26, 201015 yr Three out of four of tonight's polls are back to pretty much a three way tie YouGov/Sun CON 33%(-1), LAB 28%(nc), LDEM 29%(-1) Opinium/Express CON 34%(+2), LAB 25%(-1), LDEM 28%(-1) ICM/Guardian CON 33%(-2), LAB 28%(+2), LDEM 30%(-1) ComRes/ITV/Independent CON 32%(-2), LAB 28%(nc), LDEM 31%(+2)
April 26, 201015 yr He is. It was the main news story on the 7PM bulletin. I guess it is not enough for him to vote in Parliament on affairs that affect England; voting the opposite way that would cost the British (i.e. including Scottish) taxpayer on things that would benefit the English (free prescription; additional rebates for English students at University; etc), yet he & his party pushed through the opposite policies for his native Scots. Still to quote the prick on Thursday Nicky Campbell's Radio 5 Live show belittling a caller with an apparent joke "I think a Tory majority (in the election) is about as likely as Steve Davis (the 52 year old semi-retired former 6 time World Snooker Champion who last won the world title in 1989) beating (fellow Scot) John Higgins (the current World Champion and world ranked #1) in the snooker". :rofl: The SNP MPs abstain from all votes at Westminster which affect just England. They've done so since devolution. Scottish Labour, Lib Dem and Tory (singular) MPs do not abstain. I suggest your ire is directed at the wrong targets -_-
April 26, 201015 yr I was gutted when the result of our election returned a SNP minority government. Properly gutted. I know. I was gutted too. I hoped for an SNP majority government. :(
April 26, 201015 yr I know. I was gutted too. I hoped for an SNP majority government. :( Personally i was hoping for Salmond hanging from that disgusting eyesore of a building as a warning to all those in favour of breaking up the union.
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