I never thought such a contemptible view would cheer me up!

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8602371.stm

 

This Tory implosion is such a joy to watch...

I don't think it'll affect the Tory vote much at all. A recent poll said only 25% of gays voted Tory anyway so hardly a big influence on the result.

I bet Cameron's seething with Chris Grayling though and can't see the guy being Home Secretary if they do get in.

I don't think it'll affect the Tory vote much at all. A recent poll said only 25% of gays voted Tory anyway so hardly a big influence on the result.

Approximately 6 million gays in this country, 4 million of which are of voting age, about 3 million vote - oh! That would come out as 750,000 votes - incidentally the gap between the Tories and Labour at the last election. Probably means a lot of swing seats too. Hardly a big influence?

I don't think it'll affect the Tory vote much at all. A recent poll said only 25% of gays voted Tory anyway so hardly a big influence on the result.

You're assuming that only gay voters might be put off voting Tory by these remarks. You're also ignoring the fact that three of the Tories' target seats are in Brighton and Hove where there is a large gay population. Of the seats they could conceivably lose, one of them is Bournemouth West (my own constituency after boundary changes) which also has a large gay population.

 

This isn't just an issue of gay rights. It adds to the impression that leading Tories are all over the place. How can Grayling claim to support the current law (which he voted for) then disagree with a key part of it while also saying it shouldn't be changed?

I bet Cameron's seething with Chris Grayling though and can't see the guy being Home Secretary if they do get in.

 

I agree, if he doesn't resign before the election surely Dave (if he wins) will kick him out of the Home Office afterwards.

I don't think Grayling's comments will really have an effect tbh. Mainly because it does seem to me that Cameron genuinely isn't homophobic. I know it certainly does seem that he does spout a lot of hot air generally, but unlike his half-hearted, limp policies on things like green issues, ID cards and "hugging hoodies", he really has gone repeatedly out of his way to endorse gay rights. He's apologised for Section 28 and he singled out civil partnerships as one of the only good things to come out of the Labour government.

 

Of course, there will still be homophobes in the party, but I think we can trust they'll be kept as far away from policy-making positions as possible.

I don't think Grayling's comments will really have an effect tbh. Mainly because it does seem to me that Cameron genuinely isn't homophobic. I know it certainly does seem that he does spout a lot of hot air generally, but unlike his half-hearted, limp policies on things like green issues, ID cards and "hugging hoodies", he really has gone repeatedly out of his way to endorse gay rights. He's apologised for Section 28 and he singled out civil partnerships as one of the only good things to come out of the Labour government.

 

Of course, there will still be homophobes in the party, but I think we can trust they'll be kept as far away from policy-making positions as possible.

I don't trust Cameron on this at all. Particularly as he made keeping Section 28 a key tenet of his campaigning in 2003 and voted against every piece of pro-gay legislation until, uh, he became leader. Coincidence, that.

The Tories will do just about anything to get back in power :(

I don't trust Cameron on this at all. Particularly as he made keeping Section 28 a key tenet of his campaigning in 2003 and voted against every piece of pro-gay legislation until, uh, he became leader. Coincidence, that.

 

Which just all adds to this feeling that Dave is Tony Blair in blue clothing. Spending most of his time spinning and saying what he thought we wanted to hear at the time, before turning around and doing just what the hell he wanted instead.

:o My constituency has a pirate party candidate running!

 

Liberal Democrat Mike Simpson

Labour Richard Mollet

Pirate Luke Leighton

Conservative Jeremy Hunt

 

Being in Surrey, it's a Conservative stronghold and Jeremy Hunt :puke: [who I've met many times and he's always come across badly], won by 6,000 votes in 2005.

Edited April 5, 201015 yr by nickthenoodle

:o My constituency has a pirate party candidate running!

 

Liberal Democrat Mike Simpson

Labour Richard Mollet

Pirate Luke Leighton

Conservative Jeremy Hunt

 

Being in Surrey, it's a Conservative stronghold and Jeremy Hunt :puke: [who I've met many times and he's always come across badly], won by 6,000 votes in 2005.

In 2001 the Lib Dems only lost by a couple hundred votes so it has been very close in the recent past. My brother lives in the constituency and was equally unimpressed when he met Hunt at the last election.

In 2001 the Lib Dems only lost by a couple hundred votes so it has been very close in the recent past. My brother lives in the constituency and was equally unimpressed when he met Hunt at the last election.

 

I met Hunt on a school trip to the houses of parliament, we had a Q and A scheduled with him, which he missed :rolleyes: and then he came to see us on our way out and said 'Farnham's my favourite town in the constituency' :rolleyes: and he's been back to our school several times and I was lucky enough to be invited to a Q and A session with him and he seemed stumped by most of the questions that actually had any political nature :lol:.

I met Hunt on a school trip to the houses of parliament, we had a Q and A scheduled with him, which he missed :rolleyes: and then he came to see us on our way out and said 'Farnham's my favourite town in the constituency' :rolleyes: and he's been back to our school several times and I was lucky enough to be invited to a Q and A session with him and he seemed stumped by most of the questions that actually had any political nature :lol:.

No doubt every other town is also his "favourite" when he meets people from there.

 

No doubt every other town is also his "favourite" when he meets people from there.

 

My thoughts exactly :lol:, there are only three towns though - Haslemere, Godalming and Farnham [with its numerous villages].

 

At least we got rid of that AWFUL Virginia Bottomley woman :puke:

The Home Secretary is my MP, safe Labour seat.

 

He's one of only a few cabinet ministers i can tolerate but it would be brilliant if the Libs (who're always second here) took it.

Confirmed tonight by Downing Street as May 6th. Brown going to see The Queen to seek a dissolution tomorrow.

Guess you can't believe PoliticalBetting on everything can you Chris? ^_^

Very conflicting polls tonight. One showing a 10% Tory lead and another only a 4% lead.

 

Opinium (Daily Express) Apr 5 Mar 29

CONSERVATIVES 39% (38%)

LABOUR 29% (28%)

LIB DEMS 17% (16%)

 

LAB to CON swing from 2005 6.5% 6.5%

 

 

ICM - Guardian Apr 4 Mar 31

CONSERVATIVES 37% (38%)

LABOUR 33% (29%)

LIB DEMS 21% (23%)

 

LAB to CON swing from 2005 3.5% 6%

Edited April 5, 201015 yr by Victor Meldrew

looking more and more likely that there will be a hung parliament, proving crazy chris and craig WRONG in their sweeping statements regarding a tory landslide.