Time for a peoper rate (after i've heard the album 0 times more).

 

Woo..

 

09.0 Teenage Dream

07.0 Last Friday Night

04.0 California Gurls

10.0 Firework

00.0 Peacock (The worst song in history of music.)

03.0 Circle The Drain

04.0 The One That Got Away

11.0 E.T.

05.0 Who Am I Living For?

05.0 Pearl

03.0 Hummingbird Heartbeat

03.0 Not Like The Movies

 

..hoo

 

(I'm ready for death threats for not liking the album now)

Oh dear, it's obvious that you went into it expecting/determined not to like it. 3/10 for Hummingbird Heartbeat? Don't be obscene.

 

One of the Boys vs Teenage Dream

I Kissed a Girl vs Last Friday Night

Waking Up In Vegas vs California Gurls

Thinking Of You vs Firework

Mannequin vs Peacock

Ur So Gay vs Circle The Drain

Hot 'n' Cold vs The One That Got Away

If You Can Afford Me vs E.T.

Lost vs Who Am I Living For?

Self Inflicted vs Pearl

I'm Still Breathing vs Hummingbird Heartbeat

Fingerprints vs Not Like The Movies

 

7-5 to Teenage Dream. It's really a strong body of work throughout where the debut tails off very steeply towards the end. TOY vs Firework since I love both to death but Thinking Of You is like my favourite Katy song. Mannequin vs Peacock was tough too - both good but not quite great - but I gave it to Peacock for the wonderful middle 8.

One of the Boys vs Teenage Dream

I Kissed a Girl vs Last Friday Night

Waking Up In Vegas vs California Gurls

Thinking Of You vs Firework

Mannequin vs Peacock

Ur So Gay vs Circle The Drain

Hot 'n' Cold vs The One That Got Away

If You Can Afford Me vs E.T.

Lost vs Who Am I Living For?

Self Inflicted vs Pearl

I'm Still Breathing vs Hummingbird Heartbeat

Fingerprints vs Not Like The Movies

 

3.5-9.5

 

Teenage Dream is by far the better album. It's still not album of the year though, people need to take the loon glasses OFF.

It's without a doubt a contender for album of the year - it does what it does excellently and it's incredibly versatile.

 

I'd be interested to know what you consider to be worthy of 'album of the year' comments Tirren. Night Work no doubt... *snigger*

It's without a doubt a contender for album of the year - it does what it does excellently and it's incredibly versatile.

 

I'd be interested to know what you consider to be worthy of 'album of the year' comments Tirren. Night Work no doubt... *snigger*

Yes, Night Work. Also Crystal Castles II, Prendre L'Air, and Flesh Tone.

 

VERSATILE? It's either upbeat happy happy cheeky lovestruck, 'dark' "oh look, I can swear over a hard beat", or dainty. The closest it gets to versatility is just plain schizophrenia, and that's on Pearl. So far as I'm aware, three different types of songs =/= versatility.

It IS versatile. There's melancholic midtempo almost-balladry with huge pop choruses (Teenage Dream), straight-up party jams (Cali Gurls, TGIF), trashy dancehall (Peacock), understated balladry (Movies), dark electronic pop (ET, WAILF), and joyous 90s odes (Hummingbird). This is not exactly the Ke$ha album which literally has two types of song.

 

Also Flesh Tone and Prendre L'air, much as they have their highlights, are almost entirely free of personality and joy and could never be my album of the year. Flesh Tone particularly is highly flawed and at least a third of it is filler - which, to say it only has 9 songs, isn't great. If we're going to do the snobby music taste thing then THAT is a laughable choice for album of the year.

One of the Boys vs Teenage Dream

I Kissed a Girl vs Last Friday Night

Waking Up In Vegas vs California Gurls

Thinking Of You vs Firework

Mannequin vs Peacock

Ur So Gay vs Circle The Drain

Hot 'n' Cold vs The One That Got Away

If You Can Afford Me vs E.T.

Lost vs Who Am I Living For?

Self Inflicted vs Pearl

I'm Still Breathing vs Hummingbird Heartbeat

Fingerprints vs Not Like The Movies

 

7-5 to "Teenage Dream", but it was very close between I Kissed... & Last Friday..., If You Can... & ET and Self Inflicted & Pearl.

It IS versatile. There's melancholic midtempo almost-balladry with huge pop choruses (Teenage Dream), straight-up party jams (Cali Gurls, TGIF), trashy dancehall (Peacock), understated balladry (Movies), dark electronic pop (ET, WAILF), and joyous 90s odes (Hummingbird). This is not exactly the Ke$ha album which literally has two types of song.

 

Also Flesh Tone and Prendre L'air, much as they have their highlights, are almost entirely free of personality and joy and could never be my album of the year. Flesh Tone particularly is highly flawed and at least a third of it is filler - which, to say it only has 9 songs, isn't great. If we're going to do the snobby music taste thing then THAT is a laughable choice for album of the year.

This isn't exactly musical snobbery - it's more a recognition of when people are losing their $h!t over something that's GOOD, great at times, but not the pop redefining album everyone's holding it up as. (Snobbery's quite the odd accusation actually - hello? Prendre L'Air is pretty much pop as pop goes?)

 

Certainly at times it feels that people are mistaking 'ooh look, she swore and used an innuendo!' for a personality. There IS personality on this album, but certainly it seems that that's the only thing getting people to loon over tracks such as the screechy Circle The Drain and the cringe-inducing Peacock rather than the moments on the album when Katy steps away from the whole 'look at me, I can swear and hint at cocks!' act that actually ARE worth listening to on their own terms - Pearl, The One That Got Away, Not Like The Movies.

A more updated rate from me, as this album is a massive grower and is incredible after the twentieth or so time!

 

10.0 Teenage Dream

09.0 Last Friday Night

08.0 California Gurls

09.0 Firework

08.0 Peacock

07.0 Circle The Drain

10.0 The One That Got Away

10.0 E.T.

07.5 Who Am I Living For?

10.0 Pearl

10.0 Hummingbird Heartbeat

08.0 Not Like The Movies

 

'Pearl' is the biggest grower for me! It's gone from a 6 or maybe lower, to a 10 in a matter of days! :wub: BRILLIANT SONG! It reminds me of a Chicane song, but with Katy's vocals... It's a beautiful song lyrically too :wub:

Katy Perry's Album Sales Spark New Worries

 

by Ed Christman | September 03, 2010 3:10 EDT

 

The album bows this week at No. 1 on the Billboard 200, thanks to first-week sales of 192,000 units in the United States, the ninth-best debut week so far this year, according to Nielsen SoundScan.

 

The album's first single, "California Gurls" (featuring Snoop Dogg), has scanned 3.6 million downloads, while all individual digital tracks from the album have sold a combined 5 million units, according to SoundScan. Put another way, sales of albums and track-equivalent albums (where 10 digital tracks equal an album) for "Teenage Dream" totaled 689,000, according to SoundScan.

 

"It's a thrilling accomplishment from our perspective," says EMI Music Services executive VP Dominic Pandiscia, who oversees the company's North American sales operations. "The magnitude of the marketing plan is about driving overall revenue around the project, including track downloads, ringtones and video sales. Album scans is one component of it."

 

Yet "Teenage Dream" fell short in one key area: It didn't meet first-week sales projections in the industry. And that, in turn, has sparked worries that the album's performance may affect retail orders for other superstar releases due later this year.

 

Executives at other major labels say they expected Perry's sophomore album to debut with sales of anywhere from 300,000 to 700,000 units, with most figuring the album would scan about 400,000.

 

"I'd like to meet one industry executive last week who thought her album would do under 200,000 units, because I don't think that person exists," a senior executive at a rival major says.

 

"It was a wake-up call for some folks," the head of sales at another competing major says. "Some think the sky is falling. Others said, 'Wait a minute, she's a singles artist.' And still others said EMI should have put out the album six weeks ago and it would have sold more."

 

According to sources, EMI shipped 1 million units of the album prior to its U.S. street date of Aug. 24, which indicates that big-box retail chains like Walmart, Target and Best Buy were expecting the album to post robust first-week sales, as was Starbucks, which featured the title in its stores.

 

It would also be roughly in line with typical industry practice of shipping about twice as much product as anticipated first-week sales for a major album release. But prerelease shipments of "Teenage Dream" turned out to be about seven times debut-week sales.

 

The album sold 89,000 units at mass merchants and 65,000 through nontraditional merchants, including 50,000 downloads. It also sold 35,000 units at chain retailers and 3,000 units at independent stores and regional chains.

 

Competing major-label executives say it wasn't EMI's fault that the album didn't meet sales expectations. "EMI did a tremendous job in setting up that record," one executive says.

 

Perry shot to pop stardom with her 2008 debut album, "One of the Boys" (Capitol), and a penchant for provocative lyrics and music videos.

 

Newbury Comics head of purchasing Carl Mello says he expects "Teenage Dream" will sell well through the end of the year and that it will be one of the holiday season's top titles. But he notes that the album's first-week sales "aren't as big as you would think for somebody who has become so omnipresent."

 

While anticipation for Taylor Swift's forthcoming album, "Speak Now" (Big Machine), had sparked debate over whether superstar artists will ever be capable of generating debut-week sales of 1 million units (Billboard, July 31), "Teenage Dream" has shifted the conversation to whether labels should even consider shipping 1 million units before street date.

 

"I don't know how you ship a million units now," a major-label head of sales says. "Even if I was asked to ship a million units, you just can't do it anymore."

 

Some label executives say expectations were too high because most female pop artists commonly sell a lot of track downloads but don't enjoy big debut-week album sales. "When I saw how Perry was doing, I was shocked," a senior sales executive at a competing major distribution company says. "But then I remembered that Fergie's 'The Dutchess' only did about 160,000 units in her first week in September [2006]and it took until December until the fans started buying her like an album artist."

 

EMI's marketing push for "Teenage Dream" and Perry's appealing stage persona will no doubt score her high-profile TV appearances this fall, which should help boost sales of the album. "Mark my words: I will bet you 'Teenage Dream' will sell more than ["One of the Boys"]," another senior label sales executive says. " 'Teenage Dream' will be one of those 'at the end of the day' records."

One of the Boys vs. Teenage Dream

I Kissed a Girl vs. Last Friday Night

Waking Up in Vegas vs. California Gurls (ft. Snoop Dogg)

Thinking of You vs. Firework

Mannequin vs. Peacock

Ur So Gay vs. Circle the Drain

Hot 'n' Cold vs. The One That Got Away

If You Can Afford Me vs. E.T.

Lost vs. Who Am I Living For?

Self Inflicted vs. Pearl

I'm Still Breathing vs. Hummingbird Heartbeat

Fingerprints vs. Not Like the Movies

 

5-7

Both albums are great

One of the Boys vs. Teenage Dream

I Kissed a Girl vs. Last Friday Night

Waking Up in Vegas vs. California Gurls (ft. Snoop Dogg)

Thinking of You vs. Firework

Mannequin vs. Peacock

Ur So Gay vs. Circle the Drain

Hot 'n' Cold vs. The One That Got Away

If You Can Afford Me vs. E.T.

Lost vs. Who Am I Living For?

Self Inflicted vs. Pearl

I'm Still Breathing vs. Hummingbird Heartbeat

Fingerprints vs. Not Like the Movies

 

5-7 :cheer:

Edited September 6, 201014 yr by Bert for Lashes

One of the Boys vs. Teenage Dream

I Kissed a Girl vs. Last Friday Night

Waking Up in Vegas vs. California Gurls (ft. Snoop Dogg)

Thinking of You vs. Firework

Mannequin vs. Peacock

Ur So Gay vs. Circle the Drain

Hot 'n' Cold vs. The One That Got Away

If You Can Afford Me vs. E.T.

Lost vs. Who Am I Living For?

Self Inflicted vs. Pearl

I'm Still Breathing vs. Hummingbird Heartbeat

Fingerprints vs. Not Like the Movies

 

4-8, teenage dream wins!!

Perry's album sales 'worry label heads'

Monday, September 6 2010, 15:27 BST

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Katy PerryMusicSales of Katy Perry's new Teenage Dream album have reportedly concerned music executives.

 

Despite impressive first-week sales of 192,000 in the US, industry bosses have admitted that the LP failed to match its projected sales of 400,000, Billboard reports.

 

The shortfall is now said to be forecasting the overall decline in album sales worldwide.

 

"Teenage Dream fell short in one key area: It didn't meet first-week sales projections in the industry," said EMI boss Dominic Pandiscia.

 

"And that, in turn, has sparked worries that the album's performance may affect retail orders for other superstar releases due later this year."

 

SoundScan reports that Perry's sales for the album's entire campaign totals 5 million, 3.6 million of which is accounted for sales of the first single 'California Girls'.

 

Pandiscia admitted overall sales were "a thrilling accomplishment from our perspective", whereas other label executives have been quoted saying they were "shocked" when they saw the debut-week sales.

 

Teenage Dream has so far topped the album charts in five countries.

 

I am really disliking how they're making it sound like it's her fault and making it sound like she's flopping, when she most certainly isn't! :mellow:

Yeah i agree, they can't complain i know she hasn't sold the best amount of albums but it's an improver from her last album. California Gurls has sold over 4million worldwide and should reach around 4m in USA soon.

Katy Perry posts back-to-back No. 1s on the Billboard Hot 100, as "Teenage Dream" is set to top the chart when it's released in full tomorrow morning (Sept. 9). The last female artist to post successive No. 1 singles on the chart was Lady Gaga, who took her first two entries, "Just Dance" and "Poker Face," to the summit in the first half of 2009. Perry spent six weeks at No. 1 with her last radio single "California Gurls" earlier this summer, accumulating enough time in the upper reaches of the chart to lead the Summer Songs tally for most of the season. The final ranking of Top Summer Songs will also be announced tomorrow. On this week's Hot 100, "California Gurls" dips 7-10. "Teenage Dream" makes its surge to No. 1 thanks in part to a copping a second straight Airplay Gainer award, topping 100 million listener impressions for the first time with a 19% audience gain (7-5 on Radio Songs), according to Nielsen BDS. The track holds at No. 1 for a second week on Digital Songs with 221,000 (down 15%), according to Nielsen SoundScan. Perry supplants Eminem, who was also enjoying a back-to-back No. 1 run on the Hot 100. "Love the Way You Lie," featuring Rihanna, led for the past seven weeks (1-2), while his last single "Not Afraid" topped the chart for a week in May.

 

Her 3rd #1!! More than Lady GaGa now :cheer:

Excellent news!!

 

One of the strangest adverts I have seen in a while. LOVE IT. :wub:

Performance of TD @ Wetten yesterday! She looks stunning!