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Yeah, I don't see how this ends well now. The problem is I don't think Hamas really want any peace and the people who suffer on all this is the Israreli & Palestinian individuals. I think, whatever people's views are on the conflict and how Israel operate - Hamas are the by far the worst party involved here. Not sure they care about Palestinian people or their land, they will just do anything for whoever pays the most.

 

Looks really poor in the Israeli government too, some serious intelligence failings here.

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I agree about lack of nuance and of course there's a lot of gung-ho "Israel get rid of Palestine" crap on social media. I've seen a lot of rubbish too saying "Oh Hamas were forced into this by endless Istaeli aggression."

 

But parading naked women in the streets, taking children prisoners etc is not the way to do.it plus in.this case, Israel are too strong. Only diplomacy and pressure could have solved it and now there's no chance and it's going to be fecking gruesome.

An American president supporting Isreal, there’s a surprise!
There’s people from all sides being butchered you only seem to think one side have the right to defend themselves and have a right to nationhood hence why your posts are propaganda and I will call it out if I want.
There’s people from all sides being butchered you only seem to think one side have the right to defend themselves and have a right to nationhood hence why your posts are propaganda and I will call it out if I want.

 

Agreed

Apparently over 250 bodies were recovered at that music festival, ironically for peace. How horrific.

 

One of my friends is part of a Palestinian charity and has a lot of friends there. He contacted several of them today. One not replied and others have lost family members and neighbours. Just devastating.

There’s people from all sides being butchered you only seem to think one side have the right to defend themselves and have a right to nationhood hence why your posts are propaganda and I will call it out if I want.

 

No. Hamas murders innocent civilians. The Israeli army kills the terrorists of Hamas. There is no symmetry whatsoever.

 

 

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No more social media posts please

You are clearly not following this story well if you think there weren't many, many innocents on both sides that were slaughtered. Hamas are evil scum but they do not represent all of Palestine. Any more of these social media posts will be deleted as this is bordering on misinformation and you've been warned about this before.
Any more of these social media posts will be deleted as this is bordering on misinformation and you've been warned about this before.

Oh... I didn't know Madonna was spreading "misinformation". :rolleyes:

No. Hamas murders innocent civilians. The Israeli army kills the terrorists of Hamas. There is no symmetry whatsoever.

 

Yes, there is no symmetry whatsoever.

 

Hamas are an evil fascist group killing and subjugating both Palestinians and Israelis and they should always be condemned for murdering civilians. However, they're a terrible symptom of a root cause, and nothing is going to change until the occupation and sheer ongoing cruelty from Israel and the IDF (the IDF have a lot more blood on their hands, significantly more) are addressed.

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Has anyone seen the rumour about Trump and this?? It was on Twitter :o The rumour is the reason why Hamas knew their way around the Ieon Dome is that Russia gave rhem the info, ans that they got the info from Trump. No idra if it's legit or not.

Trump being anti Israel then and aligning fully himself with Putin? Well it's a theory...although Trump's family are very close to the Israeli regime.

 

Anyhow, the facist dictator in Israel is applying illegal collective punishment against Gaza, stopping electricity, food and all water. Genocidal maniac.

Of course, the West would say 'Israel has to defend itself' - Sunak has implied may send troops. It's all getting very dangerous.

 

Meanwhile, in the UK, Jewish business have been vandalised already.

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Some online think Russia and/ or Iran instigated this somehow to get attention off Ukraine, but there's no evidence for that.
Trump being anti Israel then and aligning fully himself with Putin? Well it's a theory...although Trump's family are very close to the Israeli regime.

 

Anyhow, the facist dictator in Israel is applying illegal collective punishment against Gaza, stopping electricity, food and all water. Genocidal maniac.

Of course, the West would say 'Israel has to defend itself' - Sunak has implied may send troops. It's all getting very dangerous.

 

Meanwhile, in the UK, Jewish business have been vandalised already.

 

This was always going to happen & Hamas likely knew it. Hamas don't care about Palestinian people and they know Israel will go all out. Then Hamas know whatever happens, they will be able to get more people to join their cause. For all of the shit Israel has given Gaza, Hamas could have built way better infastructure inside etc. if they wanted. Plus Israel's intelligence failed miserably, so they will go all out to meaning the likelihood is those hostages will all be slaughtered. Hamas helped turned Gaza in to hell on the earth. Hamas is not a group which wants peace, for all the crap Israel have done, to my knowledge they ahven't committed mass rape, kidnapped babies & the elderly and parded bodies to be spat on.

 

I don't know a situation how this descalates, which is very worrying.

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