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I just wanna be selfish and have videos for Heavy Metal Lover, Scheiße and Government Hooker. Such messed up singles choices so far it's a shame she didn't just take a risk with one of these.

 

Even Bloody Mary and Americano are 10x better than the singles so far.

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"An Interscope executive confirmed to Billboard this week that he is not aware of any current plans for another single from the album." :cry:

 

...but i don't know whether this will actually be the case. Gaga does like to do her own thing...

It doesn't matter what Gaga likes or wants, if Interscope don't want another single there won't be one. It costs money to send a song to radio and produce a video and even if she was willing to pay that herself they probably don't want another flop single to do damage to her credibility.

 

I kinda want 'Road To Love' to be a single. It's my newly discovered JAM.

I'm glad I'm not the only one, the synths in this are amazing, it's probably my favourite instrumental from the album to listen to, and I don't think it would sound out of place on radio.

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Hooray. Finally some more love for 'Highway Unicorn' :wub: I still get weird 'Poker Face' vibes from it. (Obviously with more watered down production and not as full or as "dirty" as the production on PF)
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Dance In The Dark and Scheisse will be forever be an album track and not a single sadly. I can't see her releasing Scheisse officially :(
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What makes a pretentious album? A groan-inducing concept, lots of highfalutin waffle, and a ridiculous cover. If you’re lucky you get all three at once. Here are some of the worst offenders.

 

01. Lady Gaga – 'Born This Way'

 

http://static.nme.com/images/gallery/LadyGagaMTEMA21PR071111.jpg

 

For a while Gaga was the most exciting pop star on the planet. Then on ‘Born This Way’ she seemed to believe in her own hype, convinced that she had a message to share. Cue an album of unwieldy ‘anthems’ that couldn’t mask the fact the fun had left the building.

 

Most Pretentious Moment: The German sung 'Scheiße'. Did electroclash die for this?

 

 

 

02. Terence Trent D'Arby – 'Neither Fish Nor Flesh'

03. Lou Reed and Metallica – 'Lulu'

04. Lou Reed – 'Metal Machine Music'

05. The Passengers – 'Original Soundtracks (Volume 1)'

06. Mansun – 'Six'

07. KISS - 'Music From 'The Elder''

08. Transvision Vamp – 'Little Magnets Versus The Bubble Of Babble'

09. The Smashing Pumpkins – 'Machina / The Machines Of God'

10. Pete Townshend - 'Psychoderelict'

http://touch.nme.com/blog/index.php?blog=1...p;tb=1&pb=1

 

 

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Oh the irony of winning "Most Pretentious Album Ever" from none other than NME. *eyeroll* I might laugh forever + then return to narcissism.

"A groan-inducing concept, lots of highfalutin waffle, and a ridiculous cover."

 

That does kinda describe the album. Though to be fair she has a point too.

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Didn't they give the album a glowing review?

 

Album Review: Lady Gaga - 'Born This Way'

 

Gaga doesn’t know when to hold back – and it’s a damn good thing.

 

‘Hype’ is a disgusting word. But when an album, which was a self-declared phenomenon before it was even an album, appears to be an experiment in hype itself, it becomes an unavoidable part of the conversation. There’s been a suspicion in the epic run-up to the release of Lady Gaga's second-and-a-half album that she’s just been being deliberately ridiculous just to piss people off. But then, having a go at a pop star for being ridiculous is in itself as ridiculous as having a go at a brain surgeon for being too hung up on all the neurosurgery.

 

There’s another possibility here though. In our man Peter Robinson’s (rather amazing) cover feature the other week, she expressed genuine surprise that people found ‘Born This Way’ the song something of an ‘Express Yourself’ parody. The suggestion actually moved her to tears. It’s in the nature of artists to miss the blindingly obvious about their own work.

 

But for the entire world to have the exact same instantaneous reaction, to the point where the words ‘Express Yourself’ began trending on Twitter, suggests that comparison holds water. You’d think somebody – somebody – in her team could have noticed. It’s just possible that Gaga is now such a powerful entity that everybody was just too scared of losing their jobs to point it out.

 

It would certainly bear out the chain of events that led to that appalling, badly-photoshopped mess of a cover image getting signed off. And if that’s the case then we really are in new territory for mainstream pop music, where somebody at the absolute peak of commercial heaviosity is able to operate with the artistic imperative of a David Bowie without an iota of outside interference. What you definitely cannot fault about this album is the scale of its artistic ambition.

 

One thing that much-debated 'Born This Way' album cover does get right is the record’s obsession with the fusion of flesh and metal. As if Gaga, having already (in her own head at least) fused herself with her fanbase to create a singular entity, she wants to weld physically to her synthesisers as if to create one all-powerful dreadnought of self-empowerment. For the most part this is one relentless torrent of heavy-metal-rave-pop. At the very least it’s a triumph in sound engineering.

 

‘Hair’ is an empowerment anthem using the simple image of the wind blowing through a person’s hair to illuminate the album’s Love-Yourself-And-Let-It-All-Hang-Out message way more effectively than the title track. It trumps it once again by being quite the gayest thing you will ever hear for a long time. On the same tip is ‘Bad Kids’, a homage to the NYC club kids era, hammering home the freak message to the Little Monsters, but with a chorus that is adorable instantly and forever.

 

‘Bloody Mary’ is a serene flipside to ‘Judas’ this time using Ms Magdalene to do much the same job, as dainty plucked strings careen around filthy beats to create something weirdly graceful. And ‘Americano’, a Hispanic upgrade of ‘Alejandro’ which riffs on both Evita and Santa Esmerelda’s ‘Don’t Let Me Be Misunderstood’, succeeds because it is so colourfully deranged. Elsewhere the sci-fi goth night-stalk ‘Electric Chapel’ perhaps nails the record’s blood-and-chrome aesthetics most effectively of all.

 

Things get rather knottier when the beats drop heavier. ‘Scheiße’, which channels Miss Kittin doing a rave take on Madonna’s ‘Erotica’ strides into a commanding pop song and comes out a triumph. ‘Government Hooker’ drops down into freeform industrial techno impressively early on in the tracklist, but there’s scant evidence of any real political message in lines like “Put your hands on me, John F Kennedy”. And ‘Heavy Metal Lover’s staccato filth-fest is impressively murky but the relentless smut ends up sounding daft. The ostentatious ‘Highway Unicorn (Road To Love)’ aims for some kind of weird chamber-rave-metal-concerto yet comes out a total mess.

 

But then at the end, something spectacular happens. Skynet is given a rest and it emerges again that when Gaga does do pure emotion, she does it exceptionally well. ‘You And I’ is a quite epic exercise in futurist honky-tonk, apparently directed to a lesbian lover or a drag queen. And finally, the gleaming ‘The Edge Of Glory’ (apparently a love song to her late grandfather, yet with a romantic twist) finds her dancing “On the edge of something final we call life tonight” in the most ecstatic pop serenade this woman has ever come up with.

 

That beautiful simplicity reminds us that Lady Gaga can be guilty of trying too hard. But do you really think that’s wrong? ‘Born This Way’ doesn’t get everything right. It’s not the clarion to the dispossessed that it thinks it is. And after pushing so hard in this direction, she should probably strip it back to just her and a piano next time if she really wants to shock. Because rather than an exercise in hype, what ‘Born This Way’ really is an exercise in the pushing of everything to its ultimate degree. And for all the black, white and silver, it passes that test with flying colours.

 

8/10

http://www.nme.com/reviews/lady-gaga/12061

Say what you want about the album but it's brimming with 'fun'. The idiot who wrote that must be averse to pop in general.

 

It's not really prententious at all. She wasn't trying to be anyone but Lady Gaga, it was a natural progression in sound.

It really is pretentious to the max. Anyone denying that is delusional.

That's not to say it's not good...but it's definitely pretentious.

It really is pretentious to the max. Anyone denying that is delusional.

That's not to say it's not good...but it's definitely pretentious.

 

Sadly not pretentious enough! 'Hair' still exists.

I know I am biased by my intense dislike for her, but anyone denying the album is off the pretentious scale needs to hit up a dictionary. STAT. It DEFINES pretention.

 

My main issue with it is that it really isn't that good, the fun has vanished since The Fame and we're left with a handful of really not very good songs with poor production, weak melodies and 'messages' shoved in for good measure. I agree that Scheiße sums up the problems with the album perfectly, it's pure style over substance. It's not without charm of course, The Edge Of Glory is exactly the sort of genre crossing pop she become huge as a result of and should stick with (gradually changing it each time of course, as she did here, it sounds LIKE something from The Fame but a 2011 version of it and slightly slicker).

The only I think was pretentious was the fact she hyped it up so much before it came out ('greatest album of the century'). Call me delusional but I really don't think the music is all that pretentious.
I know I am biased by my intense dislike for her, but anyone denying the album is off the pretentious scale needs to hit up a dictionary. STAT. It DEFINES pretention.

 

My main issue with it is that it really isn't that good, the fun has vanished since The Fame and we're left with a handful of really not very good songs with poor production, weak melodies and 'messages' shoved in for good measure. I agree that Scheiße sums up the problems with the album perfectly, it's pure style over substance. It's not without charm of course, The Edge Of Glory is exactly the sort of genre crossing pop she become huge as a result of and should stick with (gradually changing it each time of course, as she did here, it sounds LIKE something from The Fame but a 2011 version of it and slightly slicker).

 

'The Edge of Glory' is beyond overrated and truly banal, although not quite as awful as 'Hair'. 'Schieße' and 'Heavy Metal Lover' etc are more interesting and definitely the stuff she should be making.

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