We lost the bid a long time ago. The way the media behaved was never going to be in our favour. The fact we did so poorly is due to all the negativity that has surrounded us and our bid. It's a shame. I can't believe how poorly we did though, as our bid was GOOD despite everything else that went on. We had the best presentation, but perhaps our arrogance and what-not dented our bid. The shame is, I don't ever think I will see the World Cup in England during my lifetime. I highly doubt we will plan on going for the World Cup again for at least another 14-20 years. I guess on the brightside we have the Olympics to look forward to.

It went to the right country as it's never been in Eastern Europe.

Ignoring Chris...

 

Apparently the games in Qatar are going to be played INDOORS? What a load of $h!tE.

Russia i can understand, but Qatar :mellow: What a retarded decision.

 

Yes, lets hold a outside sporting event on the equator in summer. :manson: Not to mention most of the supporters, especially from England, will find themselves in Jail having fallen foul to Sharia Law

 

 

Australia is also going for the Olympics in 2020 and 2024, hopefully the Brisbane Olympic bid will be luckier than their WC Bid was.

The British Foreign Office guidance on traveling to Qatar:

 

It is a punishable offence to drink alcohol or be drunk in public. Offenders may incur a prison sentence or deportation. Alcohol is, however, available at licensed hotel restaurants and bars, and expatriates living in Qatar can obtain alcohol on a permit system. You should not carry alcohol with you, including in your car (except to take it on the day of collection from the warehouse to your home).

 

You should dress modestly when in public, including whilst driving. Women should cover their shoulders and avoid wearing short skirts. You should behave courteously at all times. Any intimacy in public between men and women (including between teenagers) can lead to arrest. Homosexual behaviour is illegal in Qatar.

 

Source: http://www.fco.gov.uk/en/travel-and-living...th-africa/qatar

I think someone got their dates wrong. TV keeps saying that the next World Cup we can bid for is 2030.

 

FIFA says that countries from the same continent cannot bid for 2 consecutive competitions.

 

My calculation is that England could bid again for the 2026 competition.

It went to the right country as it's never been in Eastern Europe.

 

There's several good reasons for that.

The media ultimately cost us. Whatever the media wants they get, and no doubt some of them will be crying outrage tomorrow :rolleyes: They scared Scolari off England (probably for the best like), got rid of Sven (who debately did better than Capello is doing), and constantly have a go at Blatter and Platini.

 

So is that a plastic pitch tournament, and an indoor tournament.

 

Yay for FIFA :/ I never agreed with SPain and Portugal joining forces, they have the stadia and facilities to do it solo. I did want Australia to get the 2022 (Japan and Korea have just had it :lol: and the USA in 94) but I did have a feeling Qatar would get it.

lol pissed.

 

Seriously though, I am and I'm not surprised that it went to Russia. I was expecting that it would go to Portugal/Spain in the end tbh.

Qatar have apparently come up with a form of air conditioning which can also be applied to the pitches.

 

As far as I'm aware there is no reason why the 2026 WC cannot be in Europe. However, there may be an assumption that it will go elsewhere. That may mean that European associations will assume that the tounament won't be back in Europe until 2030.

Qatar have apparently come up with a form of air conditioning which can also be applied to the pitches.

 

As far as I'm aware there is no reason why the 2026 WC cannot be in Europe. However, there may be an assumption that it will go elsewhere. That may mean that European associations will assume that the tounament won't be back in Europe until 2030.

 

 

I wouldn't be surprised if Uruguay or a joint host with Argentina will host the games in 2030 though, its the centenary of the WC Games. England should be legible to bid for 2026 surely otherwise the latest will be 2034.

I guess the only time England will get to host the game will be 2064 or 2068 when they celebrate 100 years of hosting it and winning it.

The World Cup won't be on in either of those years...

Bless Mikey, I don't think he realises 4 goes into 100 :(

Of course the media in Qatar and Russia will be supportive, they're controlled by the state and heavily censored! Losing the World Cup is a small price to pay for having a free media...

 

The Olympics/World Cup is increasingly becoming a ostentatious event for the oligarchs and elites of (pseudo-)authoritarian countries to strut around. Let them have it, and the world's tallest skyscrapers, the 7-star hotels, and "world's most..." luxuries, etc. I rather enjoy my freedom of expression, participation, information, etc.

 

Totally agree with that sentiment...

 

Frankly I'm bored with hearing idiots blaming the media for it.. I mean, sorry, but if there's corruption going on at the highest levels of the organisation that's supposed to administer and govern the game that people on this thread supposedly "love", then that is big fukkin' problem as I see it.. The IOC had taken pretty strong steps to curb corruption (as Ken Livingstone outlined in Question Time last night, it's against the rules for a delegate from a bidding nation to even buy a drink for an IOC official..), Sepp Blatter however seems to be taking the bloody "wise monkey" approach - see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil... "lalalalalalalalalalala, not listening", what an utter W'ANKER... Frankly, he has no business being head of FIFA and there needs to be an absolute cull of these corrupt slags who are clearly mostly, if not all, on the take...

 

As far as I'm concerned the BBC and The Times are doing a public service by exposing this, I mean, if you look at the actual conditions that FIFA expects - Tax Exemption, suspension of worker's rights (which was pointed out to Panorama by several Dutch bid delegates), and they expect us to just forget about freedom of the press, etc, errrr, sorry, but the World Cup can just fukk off as far as I'm concerned.. Look at what happened in South Africa when workers protested over not being paid the correct wages - the fukkin' pigs went in and all of a sudden we almost had a re-run of the bad old days of Apartheid... This is FIFA in 2010 people, this is what they do, they are thoroughly corrupt, they think they can ride roughshod over democratically elected govts, I dont think any of us living in the free world should have anything to do with their "sporting competitions" if this is the price they demand. I think it's very telling that they've given the 2018 World Cup to Russia (a country where democracy and freedom is in serious doubt, and it's pretty damn obvious the country is rife with corruption and criminality going right the way up to Putin himself) and the 2022 one to Qatar, a country where democracy, worker's rights and press freedom is in no doubt at all - it simply doesn't exist.... Nah, fukk it, they're welcome to it, and until FIFA is cleaned up from top to bottom, the sport itself is tainted forever in my view....

 

I think it says everything that England sends out David Cameron, David Beckam, Lord Coe and Prince William to do a bit of pointless last-minute lobbying, and the Russians send out a bunch of anonymous suits and a leggy blonde model... Putin nowhere in sight, because it was clearly a done deal, he knew it, FIFA knew it, money was deposited into Swiss bank accounts, brown envelopes of cash were given out LONG AGO.....

 

Fukk the World Cup....

Damn, I knew I should have put a bet on Russia at the beginning of the year. When I fount out the candidates, I said Russia would win it. :lol:. Anyways realistically and fairly Russia should have got it as it has never been in Eastern Europe, but I would have liked it to be in England. Also for some reason I was pretty convinced Australia would get 2022. Actually come to think of it, if FIFA wanted to go to 'new places' why not Oceania e.g. Australia or New Zealand and the Caribbean e.g. Jamaica. I'm willing to bet the Caribbean would put on an amazing world cup.

 

Also I read somewhere Ireland/Scotland and Wales are bidding for Euro 2020, would be funny if they got it.

Edited December 3, 201014 yr by laddergoat

Damn, I knew I should have put a bet on Russia at the beginning of the year. When I fount out the candidates, I said Russia would win it. :lol:. Anyways realistically and fairly Russia should have got it as it has never been in Eastern Europe, but I would have liked it to be in England. Also for some reason I was pretty convinced Australia would get 2022. Actually come to think of it, if FIFA wanted to go to 'new places' why not Oceania e.g. Australia or New Zealand and the Caribbean e.g. Jamaica. I'm willing to bet the Caribbean would put on an amazing world cup.

 

Also I read somewhere Ireland/Scotland and Wales are bidding for Euro 2020, would be funny if they got it.

 

Okay, fine, then why didn't FIFA just come out and say "look guys, we really want an Eastern European nation/Arab Nation to host the competition", and save everyone the bullsh!t, trouble and embarrassment...? Fukkin' w'ankstains, they made a "competition" out of it, made people think they had a chance, when in reality, they'd likely pretty much made up their minds, let's be honest here; oh, but I guess they wanted the bribes, the junkets and the perks and so on.. C'unts..... <_<

 

The Euro competition is controlled by UEFA though isn't it...? Scoland/Wales/Ireland could be in with a shout there..... :lol:

Okay, fine, then why didn't FIFA just come out and say "look guys, we really want an Eastern European nation/Arab Nation to host the competition", and save everyone the bullsh!t, trouble and embarrassment...? Fukkin' w'ankstains, they made a "competition" out of it, made people think they had a chance, when in reality, they'd likely pretty much made up their minds, let's be honest here; oh, but I guess they wanted the bribes, the junkets and the perks and so on.. C'unts..... <_<

 

That's actually a fair point but who else could bid in Eastern Europe, FIFA don't like joint bids so that counts out most of the smaller Baltics and who in Arabia could bid Iraq/Iran/Afghanistan. LOL

 

Also, I want to ask was the USA World Cup very good in terms of atmosphere and such? I can't remember as I was only two and a half.

That's actually a fair point but who else could bid in Eastern Europe, FIFA don't like joint bids so that counts out most of the smaller Baltics and who in Arabia could bid Iraq/Iran/Afghanistan. LOL

 

Gosh, you'd think that FIFA would love joint-bids, they'd potentially get even more bribes and perks surely...... :lol: :lol:

 

Hmmm, Eastern Europe, tricky, Ukraine? Poland? Czech Republic?.. Middle East's got all that bloomin' oil money, they're minted out there....LOL.. I guess Israel is way too much of a hot potato, ditto Iran... Saudi Arabia? Jordan? Algeria? (okay, it's African, but it's the Arabian North, not the sub-Saharan..), I honestly cannot see the reasoning for rejecting Australia tbh....

 

It's all political dude, it's nowt to do with sport....

 

 

Anywhere in Eastern Europe (save Belarus) is better than Russia in terms of political/social freedoms and human rights!! As for the Middle East, Turkey is the only one I can think of, or perhaps Lebanon. But you're right, it's all about money and politics. It will cost billions for both Russia and Qatar to prepare. When those sums of money are thrown around, the possibility for corruption is astronomical.

 

The IOC hated the Beijing protests, they hated the Vancouver opposition... FIFA is saying they'd rather go to corrupt autocratic states than have to answer for their corruption. Well it's our right and we're not going to give it up so you can put on a show... goodbye, good riddance...

Edited December 3, 201014 yr by Consie