Thanks! Also

 

Depeche Mode - John the Revelator (#18, 2006)

Muse "Map Of The Problematique" went 18- OUT in 2007.

Muse "Map Of The Problematique" went 18- OUT in 2007.

Truely undeserved drop for a song so brilliant. :( And to think, it was already on an album and was released on downloads alone. How bizarre! :o

Truely undeserved drop for a song so brilliant. :( And to think, it was already on an album and was released on downloads alone. How bizarre! :o

 

I think they released a live version of it onto iTunes which sold well for a few days, in which case I doubt the album version sold much at all.

Truely undeserved drop for a song so brilliant. :( And to think, it was already on an album and was released on downloads alone. How bizarre! :o

 

It annoyed me at the time they went with "Invincible" for 4th single.. MOTP shouldn't have been relegated to 5th single - the reason it managed to out-peak "Invincible" (#21), which had a video and physical release, was because it was by far the better song. Why they didn't go with it for 4th single I'll never know.

 

 

I think they released a live version of it onto iTunes which sold well for a few days, in which case I doubt the album version sold much at all.

 

Yep, the release followed the two concerts Muse performed at Wembley Stadium on June 16 and June 17 and featured a live version recorded at those gigs.

I do agree - it seems like a crazy rule that just shouldn't be there. But hey, I'm unsigned and if it's all legal and above board to do it that way, I will. I even phoned the charts people to check. Anyway, I'm not a YouTube prankster trying to mess with things, I'm a musician trying to bring exposure to my music, and I definitely succeeded in doing that (for all the good it did, no radio play meant we dropped like a brick!)

 

To answer your question, I had fifteen versions in total including the original, HOWEVER: the song on its own was at number 4 on iTunes for a good few days, and just that original track sold at least 20k. The versions helped a lot, but the song would have been in the Top 40 even without the inflation.

 

And to whoever mentioned using the stems of a song to get the track higher up the charts - I looked into that and they said it wouldn't count because it would be too fragmented, and would fall into the rules of ringtones (selling specific segments of a song).

 

(I've been stalking this forum ever since Chartjackers, finally joined because I wanted to see what people made of all this and helpfully contribute to the discussion)

Ha! Of all the people I expected to reply to that post, Alex Day himself certainly wasn't one of them! Welcome to the forum anyway :D

 

I certainly don't begrudge you your success as such and it definitely is an interesting story. Out of all the YouTube stars and whatnot that have tried to get themselves into the chart, your campaign proved to be arguably the most successful yet so you clearly had the smarts and the "business sense" that others didn't possess, to exploit the rules in your favour, so if anything you deserve kudos for that at least (although I'm sure you learnt a bit from your previous brushes with chart success - Chartjackers, etc.) However, I do worry about the integrity of the chart if the rest of them manage to realise this method is legal according to the rules. Out of interest, are you planning any more of these chart campaigns through 2012 or was this just a one-off thing to try and get some attention from record labels and the like? I guess ultimately a lot of it depends how much of a profit you actually made from the sales of Forever Yours, if you're going to continue to stay unsigned like you're suggesting. I don't have much idea about the exact money involved in these kind of things or obviously your own circumstances.

 

You mentioned that you phoned the Official Charts Company to check the rules regarding multiple versions. I'm wondering what did they actually specifically say about the number of versions that were allowed? (i.e. did they literally say an unlimited amount would count towards the position, or maybe a certain number within reason as long as it wasn't something ridiculous like 50). I still think that releasing too many remixes would/should put someone under suspicion of the OCC's own rule of "any activity intended unfairly to influence chart positions" but that's just my personal interpretation of it, so I'm curious to see what they said as there's nothing too specific in their rules about this as far as I can tell.

Edited January 2, 201213 yr by superbossanova

It annoyed me at the time they went with "Invincible" for 4th single.. MOTP shouldn't have been relegated to 5th single - the reason it managed to out-peak "Invincible" (#21), which had a video and physical release, was because it was by far the better song. Why they didn't go with it for 4th single I'll never know.

Yep, the release followed the two concerts Muse performed at Wembley Stadium on June 16 and June 17 and featured a live version recorded at those gigs.

Invincible should have been skipped. Assasin should have been released after Map, and ended there. Invincible is such a weak track for a Muse single, it suits the album in a way, but it's definately not single material! :( Oh yes, I remember something about the live version, that would explain why it outpeaked Invincible without being released physically! :lol:

Edited January 2, 201213 yr by Juranamo

Garbage - Shut Your Mouth (#20, 2002)

 

Shut Your Mouth was in fact the very first single to drop out of the top 75 directly from the top 20.

 

In all fairness, it was a limited edition single of 15K copies and it hung around the 75-80 mark for its second and third week.

Shut Your Mouth was in fact the very first single to drop out of the top 75 directly from the top 20.

 

In all fairness, it was a limited edition single of 15K copies and it hung around the 75-80 mark for its second and third week.

 

'Raving I'm Raving' did it in 1992 :unsure:

'Raving I'm Raving' did it in 1992 :unsure:

 

Just checked for clarity

 

30/05/1992 Shut Up And Dance ''Raving I'm Raving'' {2}-15->2

05/10/2002 Garbage ''Shut Your Mouth'' {20}->1

 

Garbage must have been the first single to spend a single week in the Top 20 and then not appear in the Top 75 again. It's mentioned in a few editions of the Guinness Book of Hit Singles, but I think I forgot the single week part. Not the most enviable chart record to have.

The Wedding Present released a limited edition single each month in 1992. Several of them reached the top 20 before dropping out of the top 75.

I'm pleased to see so many people preferring Map of the Problematique to Invincible. It was the one I played for months when I got the album - I think it should have been the lead single.

 

They managed to out-do Invincible far more successfully on The Resistance track Guiding Light.

Edited January 4, 201213 yr by tonyttt31

I'm pleased to see so many people preferring Map of the Problematique to Invincible. It was the one I played for months when I got the album - I think it should have been the lead single.

 

They managed to out-do Invincible far more successfully on The Resistance track Guiding Light.

 

I really like both but they're not quite up to the standard of the other three singles IMO so I wasn't really bothered. The only alternative to releasing "Supermassive Black Hole" as lead IMO was "Starlight" given they both sound like smashes (as proved by the latter sticking around quite well after a post-album release). "Knights of Cydonia" was an obvious 3rd single because it was inevitably going to be a huge fan favourite and week 1 purchase (hence it outpeaking "Starlight" and then dropping like a stone) but had it been 2nd single it might have killed momentum a bit.

The Wedding Present released a limited edition single each month in 1992. Several of them reached the top 20 before dropping out of the top 75.

Were they new releases or re-releases? If they were new they should count stealing the record from Garbage.

Were they new releases or re-releases? If they were new they should count stealing the record from Garbage.

They were new songs.

Thats strange why it would be in that book about Garbage if there was others predating it by a decade.