Anyway Im done with Gaga...only time will tell :rolleyes:

Wow, it 'only' got to #1 in EIGHTEEN countries within less than 2 weeks of its premiere, what a huge FLOP :rolleyes:

 

Born This Way is the only song ever to top *every* iTunes chart at the same time, including Japan aka the most xenophobic music market in the world. The Japanese chart never has more than a couple of songs by non-Japanese artists in it at any given time and non-Japanese #1s are an extremely infrequent occurrence but Born This Way was so huge that it got to #1 even there.

 

 

Its all the brainwashed monsters who by impulse downloaded the song on release day. Not the general music public. Big difference .

Was a bit too big for her boots then in that case, she assumed with all the hype she created around the release of BTW that it would get to number 1 in two days. She failed!

 

I seriously doubt she or her label care about its chart positions anywhere in the world, letalone in the UK which is only the fourth biggest market in the world AFAIA (after USA, Germany and Japan). It's all about the sales and her sales in the UK, the USA and most importantly worldwide have been absolutely huge. Getting to #1 is just a bonus.

I never called it a flop. I said it was underpforming. All the way down to #10 on Itunes already, but #4 in the Airplay Chart (and probably higher as we speak).

And to quote Darren, "in the UK she isn't doing as well as many expected". That's basically what I said, thanks for explaining what "underperforming" means.

I was referring in general opinion aka Flop this way! :) Yes, but underperforming then is definite by anyone! You expected something it done worst, i expected this it done good! Everyone has different expectations using the same criteria (big star's "comeback", big hype, no video)!

Jessie now 67.1% of Adele combined, +6.8% from the last pop bar update - she's starting to gain a bit faster but still has a lot of ground to make up.

 

The OCC said yesterday Adele is 70% *ahead* of Jessie. Assuming they mean Adele had sold 170% of Jessie, not that Jessie had sold 30% of Adele, Adele is 49% *ahead* of Jessie on iTunes.

I hope you combine Jessie's other entries too (one of which is at 98 :P) I know it won't be much of a difference, but I just want her to be moving closer and closer :heehee:

Its all the brainwashed monsters who by impulse downloaded the song on release day. Not the general music public. Big difference .

 

Well then let's assume all her 'brainwashed monsters' did buy it within the first 34 hours. That was 61,000 people. Fast forward to a week after release and it's sold another 69,000. So more of its sales in its first week were by casual music fans than 'brainwashed monsters'.

 

I hope you combine Jessie's other entries too (one of which is at 98 :P) I know it won't be much of a difference, but I just want her to be moving closer and closer :heehee:

 

I would do but I was just basing that calculation on the pop bars that were posted and they didn't go down to #98 :P So it might possibly at that point been closer to 68% than 67%, very small difference. Adele also has a third entry somewhere in the top 1,000 though.

Edited February 24, 201114 yr by Bray

Its all the brainwashed monsters who by impulse downloaded the song on release day. Not the general music public. Big difference .

Love an artist is now called brainwashed! New definitions on Buzzjack for free! :heehee:

I think, like any decision made, there are advantages and disadvantages to it.

karma

 

indeed, but if it means people will tend to illeaglly dload a song thats available on itunes from the moment you hear it it can only be good news.the drawbacks are that record companies will have to promote sooner for example releasing the video at the same time as its available to get it promoted and then alot more songs could end up like 'price tag' and have massive sales and success!!

Edited February 24, 201114 yr by steve201

Australia (ARIA)[40] 1

Belgium (Ultratop 50 Flanders)[64] 2

Belgium (Ultratop 40 Wallonia)[65] 3

Canada (Canadian Hot 100)[39] 1

Czech Republic (IFPI)[66] 43

Denmark (Tracklisten)[67] 4

Finland (Suomen virallinen lista)[44] 1

France (SNEP)[48] 2

Ireland (IRMA)[45] 1

Italy (FIMI)[47] 2

Netherlands (Single Top 100)[46] 1

New Zealand (RIANZ)[41] 1

Norway (VG-lista)[68] 2

Slovakia (IFPI)[69] 14

Spain (PROMUSICAE)[43] 1

Sweden (Sverigetopplistan)[70] 2

UK Singles (The Official Charts Company)[71] 3

US Billboard Hot 100[37] 1

 

8 x #1, 5 x #2, 2 x #3 and 1 x #4 in its debut week. Not to mention the fastest-selling single in iTunes history.

 

Oh, and #1 on the United World Chart.

 

If that isn't a worldwide hit, I don't know what is... Either way, it's the biggest hit of the year so far worldwide.

 

did you ever for the life of you think anything less would happen to an artist like lady gaga with the awaited follow-up to one of the biggest pop albums of the last decade - she could have came up with anything and went to no1 on itunes!

 

I seriously doubt she or her label care about its chart positions anywhere in the world, letalone in the UK which is only the fourth biggest market in the world AFAIA (after USA, Germany and Japan). It's all about the sales and her sales in the UK, the USA and most importantly worldwide have been absolutely huge. Getting to #1 is just a bonus.

 

Yeah but they will care when the songs falling fast down the iTunes chart in other places in the world not just UK;

 

US - 1

Canada - 1

Japan - 1

Ireland - 2

Finland - 2

Netherlands - 2

New Zealand - 2

Sweden - 2

Australia - 3

Belgium - 3

Norway - 4

Spain - 4

Austria - 5

Switzerland - 5

France - 6

Denmark - 6

Luxembourg - 6

Germany - 8

UK - 10

 

Not top ten;

Greece

Italy

Portugal

 

You can't deny that BTW is a big flop compared to what her first album material, and we was expecting a single from the best album of the decade. I, as a GaGa fan can admit that she isn't doing very well after the first week hype. The song is only number one in 3 countries, and the UK is one of the places where BTW is flopping the hardest

Yeah but they will care when the songs falling fast down the iTunes chart in other places in the world not just UK;

 

US - 1

Canada - 1

Japan - 1

Ireland - 2

Finland - 2

Netherlands - 2

New Zealand - 2

Sweden - 2

Australia - 3

Belgium - 3

Norway - 4

Spain - 4

Austria - 5

Switzerland - 5

France - 6

Denmark - 6

Luxembourg - 6

Germany - 8

UK - 10

 

Not top ten;

Greece

Italy

Portugal

 

You can't deny that BTW is a big flop compared to what her first album material, and we was expecting a single from the best album of the decade. I, as a GaGa fan can admit that she isn't doing very well after the first week hype. The song is only number one in 3 countries, and the UK is one of the places where BTW is flopping the hardest

Tbh, i don't have a problem calling a GaGa's song flop but why don't we wait till the video is out?

Yeah but they will care when the songs falling fast down the iTunes chart in other places in the world not just UK;

 

US - 1

Canada - 1

Japan - 1

Ireland - 2

Finland - 2

Netherlands - 2

New Zealand - 2

Sweden - 2

Australia - 3

Belgium - 3

Norway - 4

Spain - 4

Austria - 5

Switzerland - 5

France - 6

Denmark - 6

Luxembourg - 6

Germany - 8

UK - 10

 

Not top ten;

Greece

Italy

Portugal

 

You can't deny that BTW is a big flop compared to what her first album material, and we was expecting a single from the best album of the decade. I, as a GaGa fan can admit that she isn't doing very well after the first week hype. The song is only number one in 3 countries, and the UK is one of the places where BTW is flopping the hardest

 

The only way that set of positions is 'disappointing' is in comparison with where it was after the initial hype. She's still top 10 on all but 3 world iTunes and top 5 on all but 8 of them, the absolute definition of a huge worldwide hit It was obviously going to fall.

 

And she's still #1 on 2 of the top 3 biggest music markets in the world (USA and Japan) so it's not like she's only doing well on insignificant iTunes charts.

 

And again if you're using GaGa's first album as the comparison when determining a flop there are only a very select few songs which escape 'flop'. The Fame was an absolutely enormous era and 99% of artists do less well with their second album, GaGa is no exception. It's the law of diminishing returns in action. Born This Way is still performing extremely well on its own merits (and radio play).

 

If the song continues to drop after the video is released I'll accept I'm wrong and it's underperforming. Until then, it's not underperforming by any stretch of the imagination unless your expectations were way too high to begin with.

Edited February 24, 201114 yr by Bray

Exactly, I think word of mouth is such a powerful type of promotion!

I think as well that music fans like ourselves follow iTunes across the world and catch on too material we should have a listen too and whats doing really well and then check it out ;)

Also she is doing a lot of promo over there and is incredible live. :w00t:

 

 

indeed, i would say us music followers will have seen adele on the uk itunes chart this past month and saw SLY as the next big hit and downloaded that too just like we do with us rnb songs on the us chart and of course through utube!!

At the time of Price Tag's release Jessie J had just about the most hype an artist could ever ask for, coming off the back of another big hit just a few weeks earlier and also both the Sound of 2011 AND the BRITs Critics' Choice Award. It had also been receiving airplay since about November regardless of what the media will have you believe. GaGa didn't have close to the same hype and she released her single 2 hours after the world first heard it, compared to what, 2 months for Jessie?

 

Also it has a video which is completely crucial in a song holding up in the chart, note how GaGa does *not* have a video. And if you want to use the 'GaGa has huge airplay' argument, I'll point you to the airplay chart where Price Tag is #1, while Born This Way is only #4. I'll also point out the video for 'Price Tag' is #1 while the video for Born This Way is... oh wait, there isn't one.

 

 

i agree with youre point but its silly to say that a new single by gaga doesnt have the same hype as ajessie js second single?!! :huh:

'Born This Way' is NOT flopping! (nor is Britney!)

 

They're both under performing, yes. Flopping? LOL. There's a difference between under performing and flopping. I wish people would stop saying they've flopped, when they really haven't.

Can this PLEASE be discussed in the Lady Gaga forum? I'm here to read iTunes updates, not to scroll through endless messages regarding Lady Gaga. -_-

Czech Republic (IFPI)[66] 43

Czech Republic seems to have great taste in music :rolleyes: :P

Can this PLEASE be discussed in the Lady Gaga forum? I'm here to read iTunes updates, not to scroll through endless messages regarding Lady Gaga. -_-

 

http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index.php?s...t&p=3458130

 

^_^

I really hope the video comes out quick and she does get a boost, so it can just shut everyone up who's going on about 'OMG! FLOP' its just getting so tedious :( if she doesn't, I'll help myself to some humble pie- but for now, please just be patient ;)

 

anyway, enough about that, Tiesto at 32, hopefully it will stay top 40 :D and Depeche Mode is now up to 51 :o what's caused this sudden boost?!

Yeah but they will care when the songs falling fast down the iTunes chart in other places in the world not just UK;

 

US - 1

Canada - 1

Japan - 1

Ireland - 2

Finland - 2

Netherlands - 2

New Zealand - 2

Sweden - 2

Australia - 3

Belgium - 3

Norway - 4

Spain - 4

Austria - 5

Switzerland - 5

France - 6

Denmark - 6

Luxembourg - 6

Germany - 8

UK - 10

 

Not top ten;

Greece

Italy

Portugal

 

You can't deny that BTW is a big flop compared to what her first album material, and we was expecting a single from the best album of the decade. I, as a GaGa fan can admit that she isn't doing very well after the first week hype. The song is only number one in 3 countries, and the UK is one of the places where BTW is flopping the hardest

 

The point is not the iTunes positions at present, as it is now two weeks since its release and no-one expected it to still be #1 worldwide. It built up a huge lead in all markets in the first few days and when the video is released it will begin to see an increase again. It is not a big flop. A song which sold 1M in 5 days is not a flop. Not to mention selling 957,000 in 10 days in the USA. Born This Way has been more instantly successful than any single Gaga has ever released and she is yet to promote properly (ie video, proper airplay kicking in, etc).