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The Almost Saturday Top 75 Singles

 

Top 75

JODIE CONNOR

 

Top 70

OLLY MURS

LADY ANTEBELLUM

NEON TREES (61)

 

TOP 60

CASSIUS

MUMFORD AND SONS - LLM

MIKE POSNER

FAR EAST MOVEMENT

HYPE SQUAD

PINK

GLEE - SMU-LOAP

EMINEM/RIHANNA

KANYE WEST

ELLIE GOULDING

 

TOP 50

50 LUPE FIASCO (NEW)

49 PLAN B - SS

48 ALEXIS JORDAN

47 BLACK EYED PEAS - TT

46 GLEE - TD

45 JEREMIH/50CENT

44 BEADY EYE (RE)

43 TINIE TEMPAH - PO

42 YOU ME AT SIX

41 TINIE TEMPAH - WITS

 

40 KATY B

39 NOAH AND THE WHALE

38 BRITNEY

37 TIESTO (NEW)

36 WRETCH 32

35 CHASE AND STATUS

34 JUSTIN BIEBER (NEW)

33 BRUNO MARS

32 KATY PERRY

31 GLEE - FU (NEW)

30 AVRIL

29 NICKI MINAJ

28 DR DRE

27 RIHANNA - OG

26 MARTIN SOLVEIG

25 ADELE

24 TAKE THAT

23 CLARE MAGUIRE (NEW)

22 GLEE - SITR-U (NEW)

21 FAR EAST MOVEMENT

20 ENRIQUE

19 RIHANNA/DRAKE

18 DIDDY

17 TINIE/ELLIE

16 KESHA

15 CEE LO GREEN/PALOMA FAITH

14 RIHANNA/GUETTA

13 JESSIE J

12 TAIO CRUZ

11 PINK

10 JLS

09 CHRIS BROWN

08 BRUNO MARS

07 LADY GAGA

06 CHIPMUNK

05 ALEXIS

04 ADELE - RITD

03 RIHANNA - S/M

02 JESSIE J

01 ADELE Note: If we separate the live & album versions, Adele is not #1. She's 2 & 4 as will be in the first half hour of the dodgy Big Top 40, where they do not join Live & Studio Recordings because of different catalogue numbers. As was the case with 2 recordings of Shout & Lulu in 1986...on that occasion, they were probably right to do so. On this occasion it's just opinions.

 

The Top Physicals

01 TAKE THAT (NEW)

02 JLS

03 BEADY EYE 7inch (NEW)

04 ADELE (RITD)

05 CHIPMUNK

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On the Big Top 40 Show, they will combine Someone Like You when it's out of the top 10. The reason they uncombine it now is because their chart is the live iTunes top 10. It'd be mis-leading to the listeners if the Big Top 40 Show's top 10 isn't the same as the top 10 on the home page of iTunes.

 

When both versions of Forget You were in the top 10, they did the same. They charted seperately when they were in the top 10. When they were out of the top 10, they got combined, so I think the same will happen with Adele.

On the Big Top 40 Show, they will combine Someone Like You when it's out of the top 10. The reason they uncombine it now is because their chart is the live iTunes top 10. It'd be mis-leading to the listeners if the Big Top 40 Show's top 10 isn't the same as the top 10 on the home page of iTunes.

 

When both versions of Forget You were in the top 10, they did the same. They charted seperately when they were in the top 10. When they were out of the top 10, they got combined, so I think the same will happen with Adele.

Yes ErIc, but the Full week on iTunes is counted down at the start of the show to beat Radio One to the top ten first. It ain't because they do the Live top ten later. When they drop out of their top 10, it's all airplay & the Live version doesn't get much airplay on Independant Radio & they wouldn't play f*** You, would they! Although that chart is rather nonsensical anyway.

Yes ErIc, but they Full week on iTunes is counted down at the start of the show to beat Radio One to the top ten first. It ain't because they do the Live top ten later. When they drop out of their top 10, it's all airplay & the Live version doesn't get much airplay on Independant Radio & they wouldn't play f*** You, would they!

 

It's not all airplay actually. Between #11 and #40 is based on downloads from iTunes combined with airplay from commercial radio stations. If the explicit version of Forget You was at #11 on iTunes all week, if it wasn't combined with Forget You, it would've still charted (maybe like #25 or something).

 

Songs which got no airplay on commercial radio stations have charted on the Big Top 40 Show due solely to iTunes downloads before (albeit, a lot lower than in the official chart). For example, Alors on danse by Stromae.

 

Also, I have listened to the Big Top 40 Show since the first episode in 2009. :) They change the rules a lot. :lol: I don't know how long you've been following that chart, but what they did originally, in mid-2009 was they counted down the top 10 most downloaded tracks on iTunes between the Sunday and the Wednesday of that week. So doing what they did originally, they didn't beat Radio 1 to anything. :) Look through my post history. I talk about that chart all the time! :lol:

 

By the way, they've changed the rules now. At the beginning of the show, they count down the top 10 most downloaded songs on iTunes from Sunday to Saturday, instead of ending it at Wednesday's sales. This must be the case, because when I listened to it a couple of weeks ago, Lady Gaga charted at the start of the show at #3. Using their old rules, she wouldn't have charted in the initial top 10 at the beginning of the show, because the track was put up for download of Thurday or Friday, if I remember correctly. She would've been treated like the other new releases on Sunday.

 

But trust me, they do combine all versions of songs. For example, both versions of Eyes Wide Shut and all the versions of Higher are combined on the chart, unless one or both are in the top 10.

Edited February 25, 201114 yr by Eric_Blob

It's not all airplay actually. Between #11 and #40 is based on downloads from iTunes combined with airplay from commercial radio stations. If the explicit version of Forget You was at #11 on iTunes all week, if it wasn't combined with Forget You, it would've still charted (maybe like #25 or something).

 

Songs which got no airplay on commercial radio stations have charted on the Big Top 40 Show due solely to iTunes downloads before (albeit, a lot lower than in the official chart). For example, Alors on danse by Stromae.

 

Also, I have listened to the Big Top 40 Show since the first episode in 2009. :) They change the rules a lot. :lol: I don't know how long you've been following that chart, but what they did originally, in mid-2009 was they counted down the top 10 most downloaded tracks on iTunes between the Sunday and the Wednesday of that week. So doing what they did originally, they didn't beat Radio 1 to anything. :) Look through my post history. I talk about that chart all the time! :lol:

 

By the way, they've changed the rules now. At the beginning of the show, they count down the top 10 most downloaded songs on iTunes from Sunday to Saturday, instead of ending it at Wednesday's sales. This must be the case, because when I listened to it a couple of weeks ago, Lady Gaga charted at the start of the show at #3. Using their old rules, she wouldn't have charted in the initial top 10 at the beginning of the show, because the track was put up for download of Thurday or Friday, if I remember correctly. She would've been treated like the other new releases on Sunday.

 

But trust me, they do combine all versions of songs. For example, both versions of Eyes Wide Shut and all the versions of Higher are combined on the chart, unless one or both are in the top 10.

What happens when Adele drops out of the top 10 with both versions of her song but combined sales would still make her top 10? She could end up spending multiple weeks at #11...

 

What happens when Adele drops out of the top 10 with both versions of her song but combined sales would still make her top 10? She could end up spending multiple weeks at #11...

 

Yep. That's correct. Lots of songs have weird chart runs because of the airplay and multiple versions factors. Some songs hover in the #11-#15 range for what seems like an absolute eternity. Bad Romance did, for example. It was just like GO AWAY!! :lol:

 

Those songs that get the majority of their support from Radio 1, and manage top 10 on iTunes might have chart runs like 4-6-9-28-35-OUT. They drop really suddenly when the airplay from commercial radio stations gets factored in.

 

Someone Like You will probably be another one that hovers around #11 to #15 for ages, especially if it can get good airplay too. As you said, if the two versions keep selling well when it's out of the top 10 on iTunes, the song could actually be selling more than some of the songs actually in the top 10 on iTunes, but it can only chart at a maximum of #11 on the Big Top 40 Show if it's not top 10 on iTunes.

What happens when Adele drops out of the top 10 with both versions of her song but combined sales would still make her top 10? She could end up spending multiple weeks at #11...

That happens anyway Robbie. I seem to remember a Pink track spending about 5 weeks at number 11 once because of the airplay. It's stupid because if sales are combined 50/50 with airplay we've seen what happens. A track at #14 in the sales chat, will only turned up at around 34 in this major codswallop, when the stagnant independant radio playlists keep the likes of Olly Murs in the top 15 for like 3 months!

 

In comparison to the old Network Chart it's nothing like it. The airplay element was only about 10% & they didn't use it for fallers outside the top 30. It made more sense & you'd get more new entries rather like the Fresh Hit top 40 today on the Superstation.

that big top 40 chart sounds rubbish, give me reggie any day - at least his is official!!

 

got the vinyl of 'Make you feel my love' today for 50p!!! :wub:

 

Take That no.1 in physicals. What a suprise yet it's 24 (could lower or higher by sunday) on the almost saturday chart. -_-

That happens anyway Robbie. I seem to remember a Pink track spending about 5 weeks at number 11 once because of the airplay. It's stupid because if sales are combined 50/50 with airplay we've seen what happens. A track at #14 in the sales chat, will only turned up at around 34 in this major codswallop, when the stagnant independant radio playlists keep the likes of Olly Murs in the top 15 for like 3 months!

 

In comparison to the old Network Chart it's nothing like it. The airplay element was only about 10% & they didn't use it for fallers outside the top 30. It made more sense & you'd get more new entries rather like the Fresh Hit top 40 today on the Superstation.

Hi Dave!

 

It's a bizarre chart when songs float around #11 to #15 for weeks on end. The chart compilers should either use sales and airplay all the way through the chart or just make it all sales... the Big Top 40 is missing a trick by restricting the top 10 to sales only...

 

Hi Dave!

 

It's a bizarre chart when songs float around #11 to #15 for weeks on end. The chart compilers should either use sales and airplay all the way through the chart or just make it all sales... the Big Top 40 is missing a trick by restricting the top 10 to sales only...

I contacted the person responsible for Big Top 40, a few months after it started. He was rather clueless in his answers & said that Independant Radio could never use a chart without including airplay because it represents what the listener wants to hear! This made me laugh because airplay on stations like Capital & Heart etc all try to tell us that we should be listening too, months after it was first released. They were still playing Rule The World a la Take That, 2 years after release! Florence & the Machine are a big no no, they tell us. Then this chap also told me that if I wanted to listen to a sales chart, where they play the complete top 40 then I should tune into Radio One. Another laugh because they haven't played the complete top 40 since 2003. So we can sum up the Independant Radio bods are so out of touch its untrue. Apparently Capital & Heart aim themselves at the average 20 year old nutty female, & ignore everyone else. Then you have this Gold station, where they play the same 200 tracks over & over again 24/7. This one made me laugh, when on a request show the presenter told a listener that they didn't have The Last Waltz on their system...shocking when you think this song was a million seller & the station is apparently for the over 50s!

 

There must be something wrong with people totally, if they actually listen to this rubbish week in, week out. Rather time that the Government closed the lot down for all being the same, when they are supposed to be Independant of what they do, & Local too...which has now all gone & is a former shadow of what Radio by the IBA was set out to be in 1973. Rather harsh here, but when Smooth Radio is the best Independant Station (and isn't very good anyhow) what the hell is there too listen too. You got the 12 year olds at R1 & Celebrity Radio 2 without talent or your regular professional except Ken Bruce of course. Then there's Tony Blackburn on this POTP rubbish...no format in this tired show that should never had returned after 1992's axe. You want to do a Vintage Chart Show? Then have a proper format, where you cycle years over a monthly period & don't play the same old tired out boring biased records.

Yeah, the Big Top 40 Show would be awesome if it was the whole live iTunes top 40. Okay, there would be even MORE songs charting twice, but you'd get some pretty interesting songs in the lower end of the top 40, like perhaps some album tracks and stuff.

 

Also, the official charts in some other countries include airplay in them (most notable example, the Hot 100 in the US). They do cope, but it does cause silly things like the Black Eyed Peas being #1 for 26 consecutive weeks, or What's My Name? getting to #1 before Only Girl. The chart also moves a lot slower. For example, both Firework and Grenade were in the top 3 in the US for seemingly months.

 

I think one of the reasons the Big Top 40 Show includes airplay is, because if they didn't, the chart would have a lot of Radio 1 songs in it, which would simply be weird. Including airplay in the lower regions of the chart makes the Radio 1 songs chart a lot lower, spend less time in the chart, and in some cases, not even chart at all. But instead, you get the Heart FM songs staying between #11 and #20 for 3 months. I remember through a lot of 2010, I Gotta Feeling would re-enter the top 40 on that chart every few weeks, when it was nowhere near the top 40 in the official chart.

 

That said, the chart sucks, but I think the presenters are actually very good. They're far less biased, more mature, seem more interested in the chart, and they also manage to play almost 50 songs in the 3 hours (although they do sometimes shorten some of the songs, especially when they play the top 10 at the beginning). This is pretty much why I listen to the chart. It's almost constant, "current" music for 3 hours.

 

Also, another flaw with the chart is that some high-selling songs don't actually chart. If a song is in the top 10 they play at the beginning, then isn't in the iTunes top 10 at 6pm, it actually doesn't chart at all, even though it's probably one of the 20 best-selling songs of the week.

 

Also, there was one chart last year, where there was a bug on iTunes or something, and a load of tracks got deleted. Some of the tracks in the top 10 got effected, which meant that the top 10 was really weird. I remember Telephone and Rock That Body got into the top 10 that week, even though they were only in the iTunes top 10 because a few of the tracks above them got deleted.

 

Capital is not actually too bad, from what I've experienced. They do actually play some songss early. For example, they were playing like Price Tag back in December, before even Radio 1 started playing it. There's other songs too. I heard Lights On on Capital before I heard it on Radio 1, and the same with Blind Faith. Radio 1 probably premieres these songs, but then takes weeks to get them on the playlist and in frequent rotation, while Capital seem to premiere a song, and then are playing it all the time only a few days later.

 

They also change what they're playing more frequently. They do seem to be playing Firework every 3 hours at the moment, but they won't be playing it every 3 hours this time next year! Heart FM, by contrast, are still playing Bad Romance and Empire State of Mind every 2 hours...

Edited February 25, 201114 yr by Eric_Blob

Eric....Listen to Jason Scott http://www.thesuperstation.info on Sundays. The complete top 40 plus the 41-50 sneaky peak, & at 7pm the New Releases/Bubblers in the Ones To Watch...a chart show that's 4 hours long & you'll hear some 64 songs, well almost!

Another laugh because they haven't played the complete top 40 since 2003.

 

In the first chart show of 2011 they actually *did* play the whole top 40, although that was with Scott. Reggie could never get close to all 40 but when Scott or Greg are doing it they regularly play 37-39 songs (whereas Reggie maybe averages about 31-32?)

If they can't play 40 songs in 3 Hours then there must be something wrong with them. Personally I'd be playing the top 50 in 3 hours & not missing any out. It's all about being slick & using the fader a la Tom Browne & Simon Bates.

its ironic in this country how the peoples chart is on what is percieved to be the state/public controlled station whereas the commercial/private charts are controlled charts!!

Eric....Listen to Jason Scott http://www.thesuperstation.info on Sundays. The complete top 40 plus the 41-50 sneaky peak, & at 7pm the New Releases/Bubblers in the Ones To Watch...a chart show that's 4 hours long & you'll hear some 64 songs, well almost!

 

Thanks. I might check it out this week. (Almost) 16 songs an hour sounds pretty good. :D

 

One thing I have tried to do before is wait until the chart show is over, then go through the chart show thread on Buzzjack and listen to all the songs, and read everybody's posts as the "commentary" so to speak. The only problem was then I basically ended up listening to only the songs I didn't know, and the songs I liked, so I'd skip half the chart. I know this sounds really weird, but I kind of want to hear the whole chart, even the songs I don't like, but I can't trust myself not to skip the ones I don't like if it's left up to me, so it's best someone else plays them to me, and I listen (sorry, I know this sounds absolutely pathetic on my part! :lol:). So yeah, I'll check out that chart show and see if it's good. I do like the Big Top 40 Show, but I listen to the radio a lot, and it is a bit annoying hearing some songs all the time, and then they stick around in the chart for 9 months too. :drama:

If they can't play 40 songs in 3 Hours then there must be something wrong with them. Personally I'd be playing the top 50 in 3 hours & not missing any out. It's all about being slick & using the fader a la Tom Browne & Simon Bates.

It's because Reggie waffles and loves to read out texts rather than playing the songs. He struggles with the basics of presenting a chart show. He doesn't seem to know how to deal with a simple concept of playing 40 songs in order from 40 to number 1.

Good to see Kidz by take that doing well on at least one chart!