songs nowadays that are available digitally from the minute the album is released such as Telephone are nowhere near as impressive as songs released only physically such as Eternal Flame or Think Twice in my opinion x

 

This. Though I hadn't thought about cherry-picked album tracks, just download singles that are continuously available.

Another slow climber from 92:

 

9 weeks to reach #1.

 

Boyz II Men "End Of The Road"

36-31-22-14-6-4-2-2-{1}-1-1-2-3-6-18-23-27-25-23-52-71

 

Curious as to why this bombed 23-52 after weeks of stabilising. Was the month in the 23-27 range Christmas time?

I am a bit uneasy with using top 100 runs here - I think top 75 is more standard for this kind of comparison (especially as telephone would be 11 weeks instead).

 

Celine Dion's record was top 75 weeks alone, iirc.

Curious as to why this bombed 23-52 after weeks of stabilising. Was the month in the 23-27 range Christmas time?

 

I'd guess the record company deleted 'End Of The Road' so that they could focus their attention on the follow up single - the massive...erm #23 hit 'Motownphilly'. :D

I am a bit uneasy with using top 100 runs here - I think top 75 is more standard for this kind of comparison (especially as telephone would be 11 weeks instead).

 

Celine Dion's record was top 75 weeks alone, iirc.

 

The argument of keeping top 75 runs to stay standard seems to me about as valid as staying with top 12 runs, as that's what the chart was right at the start of its life. The OCC officially switched to a top 100 several years ago, so that should be considered what is the 'official chart' in my opinion. Although I suppose the chart was a top 75 for much longer than it was/is a top 100.

To be fair, the top 100 was published at the time when Jennifer Rush was charting, and it had an extra week at #97 before starting its top 75 run. So chart purists can at least be somewhat satisfied that using the same chart size comparison it is officially tied with Telephone in terms of time taken (both 17 weeks).

 

Think Twice didn't have any extra weeks between 76-100 before starting its top 75 run, though, so it still stays on 16 even with that. Although I'm not sure if the top 100 was even published at the time? I think it started from 1995 onwards (Think Twice started its run in 1994) when it was top 200? That's what Zobbel has, anyway. It was reduced back to top 75 in 1991, after being top 100 for several years before that in the Record Mirror.

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Dead Or Alive You Spin Me Round - 15 weeks

 

55-49-51-58-65-55-48-45-41-42-40-19-5-2-1

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I am a bit uneasy with using top 100 runs here - I think top 75 is more standard for this kind of comparison (especially as telephone would be 11 weeks instead).

 

Celine Dion's record was top 75 weeks alone, iirc.

 

i prefer to use the top 100, as that is what is used now (and if OCC release anything higher, i'll use that), but in this thread, i'll put how many weeks it took in the top 75 too ;)

Phyllis Nelson Move Closer - 11 weeks

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What does the Guinness Book if Hit Singles use? Top 75 or 100?

What does the Guinness Book if Hit Singles use? Top 75 or 100?

Guinness / Virgin Hit Singles use the chart as published in Music Week, so from May 1978 this is the Top 75. This is despite Music Week publishing a Top 100 from January 1983 to November 1990. Positions 76 to 100 weren't treated as part of the "official" chart in Music Week as some records that would have been placed between 76 and 100 were omitted due to exclusion rules and this section of the Top 100 was published away from the main top 75. Guinness used Music Week's reasons for refusing to acknowledge 76 to 100 as "official" as justification for not using the data in the Hit Singles books.

 

Guinness / Virgin Hit Singles use the chart as published in Music Week, so from May 1978 this is the Top 75. This is despite Music Week publishing a Top 100 from January 1983 to November 1990. Positions 76 to 100 weren't treated as part of the "official" chart in Music Week as some records that would have been placed between 76 and 100 were omitted due to exclusion rules and this section of the Top 100 was published away from the main top 75. Guinness used Music Week's reasons for refusing to acknowledge 76 to 100 as "official" as justification for not using the data in the Hit Singles books.

 

That's fair enough - but now that the whole chart has been stripped of the old (IMO absurd) exclusion rules, there's no longer a reason for not using the T100 in record books.

15/11/1952 Jo Stafford - You Belong To Me (10 weeks) 2-5-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-{1}-2-5-5-6-9-11-8-11-12->19

 

17/01/1959 The Platters - Smoke Gets In Your Eyes (10 weeks) 17-14-9-7-7-3-2-2-2-{1}-2-2-2-4-7-7-13-17-18-24->20

 

17/11/1979 The Pretenders - Brass In Pocket (10 weeks) 57-48-47-33-30-10-10-5-3-{1}-1-2-7-19-42-59-73->17

 

14/02/1953 The Stargazers - Broken Wings (8 weeks) 11-12R(2)-7-6-7-8-2-{1}-3-6-8-12->12

 

08/01/1955 Bill Haley And His Comets - Rock Around The Clock (10 weeks) 17-18-13R(39)-8-7-4-2-3-{1}-1-1-2-2-2-1-1-6-8-14-17R(33)-13-12-8-9-8-5-8-14-13-15-24R(2)-25-25R(2)-26-27R(2)-22->36

 

06/12/1952 Kay Starr - Comes A-Long A-Love (8 weeks) 9-6-3-3-3-3-2-{1}-2-2-3-4-8-11-12-8->16

 

31/10/1959 Emile Ford And The Checkmates - What Do You Want To Make Those Eyes At Me For? (8 weeks) 12-7-4-3-2-2-2-{1}-1-1-1-1-1-3-6-9-11-14-21-23-31-32-31-35-45-50->26

 

18/06/1960 Johnny Kidd And The Pirates - Shakin' All Over (8 weeks) 45-40-15-10-10-4-3-{1}-2-3-5-7-6-14-12-17-21-35-37->19

 

12/05/1962 Mike Sarne With Wendy Richard - Come Outside (8 weeks) 46-29-17-6-4-3-2-{1}-1-2-4-7-6-9-17-18-26-32-43->19

 

24/05/1958 The Everly Brothers - All I Have To Do Is Dream/Claudette (7 weeks) 24-18-12-9-4-2-{1}-1-1-1-1-1-1-2-2-3-5-5-12-15-29->21

 

18/02/1956 Kay Starr - Rock And Roll Waltz (7weeks) 9-7-4-4-4-2-{1}-3-3-2-3-4-6-5-6-8-9-12-22-24->20

 

14/03/1964 Peter And Gordon - World Without Love (7 weeks) 39-36-16-13-4-2-{1}-1-4-5-12-23-27-37->14

 

24/12/1977 Althia And Donna - Uptown Top Ranking 7 weeks 34-34-18-13-2-2-{1}-3-7-17-38->11

 

10/05/1980 Don McLean - Crying (7weeks) 41-40-28-13-4-2-{1}-1-1-4-8-18-44-63->14

 

07/12/1974 Status Quo - Down Down (7 weeks) 34-20-15-15-10-3-{1}-5-6-26-44->11

 

 

That's fair enough - but now that the whole chart has been stripped of the old (IMO absurd) exclusion rules, there's no longer a reason for not using the T100 in record books.

Unless Music Week can be persuaded to use the Top 100 I can't see it happening. I agree with you though.