April 25, 201115 yr I think On The Floor will be remembered, too, for being a major turning point in her career (her comeback, etc) - indeed, it will probably become THE defining J-Lo song. It seems like such a small thing to help it be remembered but I think it will result in it - in a similar way to Cher's Believe, for example (although that's also remembered for being THE song to kick off the autotune boom :lol:). I agree with this. I think OTF will become one of her Signature songs and will be remembered as her Big Comeback song.
April 25, 201115 yr Talk about missing the point. I wasn't comparing them. I was simply making a point that when a major act makes a comeback with a song and becomes successful again, it tends to help the song be remembered. I could have used countless other examples, too. It's one of the major spikes in an act's career, along with stuff like the debut, first big success, etc. It's a big deal when it happens, and so people will remember it. Simple as that. Wasn't that the ENTIRE point of my post? God, I really can't stand when people completely miss the point, and then I have to write out a big paragraph explaining it like THIS. I actually forgot that Fast Car was in the top 10, to be honest. Should have actually looked at the top 10 before I said that rather than relying on my memory. But still, the general point was that it will be remembered better than most other current songs that have charted far higher than it, and have had far more radio airplay than it - it's just I used a rather misguided illustration of that, in this case. I don't know why you have to be so picky and pedantic all the time even when it's not neccessary, honestly. And that's a pretty weak attempt, frankly. You can't just exclude people just because they're OLD and probably knew about the song years before just to prove your point. At the present time there are people who know the song for more than its internet fame, unlike Rebecca Black. And even when people who were alive in the 80s are dead there will STILL be people who remember it for more than that - like me, for example - because it has heavy ties to the 1980s, as seen through its frequent appearances on compilations, airplay on 80s nights, radio, etc. iread your post again and i still think it was poorly described on your part, whats the point in adding cher if you didn't want the reader to automatically make a comparison.ithink it demeans your whole point even if you didnt mean it that way because to say that the release of OTF by JLo can be compared to cher's massive million seller and 8 week run at number1 in the late 90s is wrong because cher is a much bigger name than jlo will ever be - she had massive hits in the 60s,70s,80s and 90s and is a much bigger star than jlo overall. maybe you should think of a better comparison to get what you mean across?? overall i dont think people are as heavily swayed as to whats on greatest song lists etc as people will make their own opinions and argue the bit out and i doubt OTF will be remembered due to a reason like this at all!!
April 25, 201115 yr I understood what he meant, and some other members here made a similar comparison to Cher when she first got to #1. Mainly because Cher was old in comparison to the rest of the chart when Believe came out, and because J-Lo is old in comparison to the rest of the chart now, and they both had massive comebacks with what could potentially be (one of) the biggest hits of their career. He might've been better off saying she's like a "mini-Cher", or "Cher-lite", but I understood what he was saying. It's like if I said "Usher is like Michael Jackson". I'm not saying Usher is as big a star as Michael, I'm just saying there's many parallels you can draw between the two.
April 25, 201115 yr yeah i know what you mean now - he wasnt trying to say they are as big as each other just that the situation was similar.although i would say believe is a much bigger hit than OTF but i suppose we cant really say that as of yet!!
April 25, 201115 yr Oh, I think Believe is definitely a bigger hit than On the Floor! I think probably everybody here would agree on that. :lol: On the Floor is a big hit, but not quite that big! The last song that I think might've been as big as Believe was probably Bleeding Love.
April 25, 201115 yr maybe you should think of a better comparison to get what you mean across?? There are quite a few other examples... Blondie - Maria Green Day - American Idiot Kylie Minogue - Spinning Around Madonna - Hung Up Mariah Carey - We Belong Together (yes, I know It's Like That was before, but WBT was the HUGE hit) Meat Loaf - I'd Do Anything For Love (But I Won't Do That) Nelly Furtado - Maneater Queen - Radio Ga Ga Take That - Patience U2 - Beautiful Day Usher - OMG It seems to me to be a trend that acts who come back after a small decline/dip in sales (or a long break) compared to their efforts before and return to their former power (however briefly) seem to make a signature tune (or one of their signature tunes) out of their "comeback" song, suggesting that it's a major spike in these act's careers and leads to the song being remembered. This is why I think On The Floor will be remembered, too, and will definitely become J-Lo's signature tune (not like there's much competition for that, IMO, mind...)
April 25, 201115 yr yeah youre last point about the competition compared to her old material is what caused me so much confusion and produced my arguement.jlo isnt what i would describe as a massive artist compared with the other acts youve listed there.although it was a good comeback, even if i hate the song. on some of the artists above - did queen go in a lull before radio gaga, did u2 have no sucess with their album before beautiful day? these artists are just career artists who comeback with albums in their own time because they have had so much sucess they now contro their record labels rather than the other way round!!
April 25, 201115 yr Oh, I think Believe is definitely a bigger hit than On the Floor! I think probably everybody here would agree on that. :lol: On the Floor is a big hit, but not quite that big! The last song that I think might've been as big as Believe was probably Bleeding Love. What about I Gotta Feeling?
April 25, 201115 yr What about I Gotta Feeling? Maybe. It's sold a lot, but it never seemed that big (Believe big) at the time. I guess it was more of a consistent seller, whilst Bleeding Love was completely dominating everything for a couple of months. I don't think I Gotta Feeling ever even topped 100,000 sales in a week.
April 28, 201115 yr 2 Wretch 32 Feat. Example - Unorthodox [D] http://a4.mzstatic.com/us/r30/Music/01/4c/ba/mzi.ujkkzylv.100x100-75.jpg Chart Run: 2 [1 wk] Release date: 17-04-2011 Format: download only single Label: ministryofsound Video here: LysZJBo2HI4 Chart history (Year peak title): Wretch 32 2011 05 Traktor (Wretch 32 Feat. L) 2011 02 Unorthodox (Wretch 32 Feat. Example) Example 2009 19 Watch The Sun Come Up 2010 06 Won't Go Quietly 2010 03 Kickstarts 2010 27 Last Ones Standing 2010 29 Monster (Professor Green Feat. Example) 2011 02 Unorthodox (Wretch 32 Feat. Example) Discussion Thread Here Jester, Unorthodox is not a download only single, it has a vinyl release as well.
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