i understand where she is coming from though, its a age thing.the chart is full of rnb/dance tunes inspired by going out and getting drunk so its full of stuff like - tiesto/busta,rihanna,katy,example,snoop,mann etc whereas there is a lack of what some people would call 'real' music which more than the under 21s would like.so a songs by say jlo will sell immensly well whereas there is a lack of marina/adele style music in the charts.but that will change eventually.i think the way it came out made it sound like she was looking down at people who like this type of music when she is just frustrated as its so hard to break through for new artists now.

 

the question is will people still remember 'on the floor' type songs in 20 years compared to what i personally see as classics like 'someone like you' or 'hollywood'?

 

'On The Floor' type songs and 'Someone Like You' will definitely be remembered, not so much 'Hollywood'. I think OTF will be one of the top sellers of the year and be remembered in years to come.

 

(2) Wretch 32- Unorthodox

 

I like this tune, Maybe this tune will hit #1 next week

 

No chance, it's LMFAO vs. Chris Brown vs. J-Lo. I think LMFAO will win, but Chris could get his first number one. J-Lo will end up at no.3

Edited April 24, 201115 yr by danielGaGa

Hollywood should be remembered imo, in the sense that it's a brilliant song, but it won't be, simply because it wasn't a big enough hit.

 

Yeah, J-Lo's previous discography is very remembered by a lot of people my age, and On the Floor is shaping up to be one of the biggest hits of her career too, so I see no reason why that won't be remembered too.

Yes, songs like On the Floor will definitely be remembered. Maybe not by older people, but by the people who are teenagers now, most definitely.

 

 

i disagree i think songs like 'on the floor' will be forgotten very quickly as there are so many tracks made like it and so they fill in for a time.OTF will be massive during the summer months on holiday but by next years something else similar will take its place - a bit like roll deep-good times from last year!

 

whereas songs like someone like you, just the way you are and f*** you will be the culturally defining songs from the recent charts because they are unique and stand out for their melodies and lyrics!!

Hollywood should be remembered imo, in the sense that it's a brilliant song, but it won't be, simply because it wasn't a big enough hit.

 

Yeah, J-Lo's previous discography is very remembered by a lot of people my age, and On the Floor is shaping up to be one of the biggest hits of her career too, so I see no reason why that won't be remembered too.

 

i hope hollywood will be remembered.i think youre wrong in saying that a high chart position means they will be remembered longer?there are hundreds of songs which peaked low in the chart in their day but are culturally defining anthems now.even journey entered at no62 in the uk in 1982!!

^ It's funny that you named Forget You and Just the Way You Are. Two of the worst songs from the past year imo. :lol: Just generic RnB tripe. I like a lot of urban music, but those are really dreadful imo, are geared specifically with the goal of getting lots of radio airplay (and they succeeded, unfortunately), and were made to get approval by adults (make them old-fashioned and quiet), and by teenage girls (litter the song with swear words so they'll think it's funny, and put lyrics like "Girl you're amaaaaaaaazing, just the way you aaaaaaaaaaare"). They've been making songs like those for decades. I've been listening to music like that since the day I was born. It's getting old now. :(

 

They will be remembered though. I hate those songs, but I'll always remember them, not because I think they're good, but because they're simply so popular (same reason why On the Floor will be remembered).

 

Someone Like You is a bit better than those songs, but still not amazing.

 

And, you see, Good Times still IS remembered fondly now. In my last year at school, we'd put the song on the sound-speakers at school every Friday lunch-time. :lol: It was very culturally relevent, and will be fondly remembered by most people in my year, and even now, that song makes me happy, because it makes me remember how excited I was for the weekend each week. We did a similar thing with I Gotta Feeling too.

 

Also, I listen to a lot of pop music. On the Floor doesn't sound like every other song in the chart at all. I can think of one song it sounds like from 2009/2010 (Stereo Love by Edward Maya (another song that will be remembered for years btw, especially by those in Europe)). That's one chart hit a year. Not 10 chart hits a week.

 

And like someone else was whining earlier in the thread about RnB songs sampling Canon. Again, the only other song I can think of which sampled Canon in recent years and impacted that chart was We Dance On by N-Dubz, which was popular this time last year. Again, one chart hit a year. It's not that much.

 

Everybody still remembers My Humps by the Black Eyed Peas you know. :D

Edited April 25, 201115 yr by Eric_Blob

On The Floor will not be remembered.

On The Floor will not be remembered.

 

Why do you think that?

 

Remember 10 years ago when people said Love Don't Cost a Thing would be forgotten? Everybody (my age) still remembers it. :lol:

Edited April 25, 201115 yr by Eric_Blob

People may remember it but it doesn't mean it'll be fondly remembered or actually played anywhere....

People may remember it but it doesn't mean it'll be fondly remembered or actually played anywhere....

 

Forget You and Just the Way You Are are specifically designed to be played everywhere. That's one reason why they're two of the poorest songs from 2010. And that's one reason you'll think they're the best songs in the future, because Heart and Smooth will still play them. They're just generic RnB trash. Infact, they're barely even RnB, they're basically pop songs.

 

People think Good Times is forgotten because they never hear it anymore. But it's kind of difficult for Heart, Smooth, Radio 2, etc. to play Good Times, when all those stations categorically refuse to play songs with rapping in.

 

Also, of course you won't remember On the Floor fondly, since you don't like it. I won't remember Just the Way You Are and Poker Face fondly either, because I hate them.

 

A general trend I've noticed is, if you love a song, you remember it fondly, and if you hate a song, you don't remember it fondly. :lol:

Forget You and Just the Way You Are are specifically designed to be played everywhere. That's one reason why they're two of the poorest songs from 2010. And that's one reason you'll think they're the best songs in the future, because Heart and Smooth will still play them. They're just generic RnB trash. Infact, they're barely even RnB, they're basically pop songs.

 

People think Good Times is forgotten because they never hear it anymore. But it's kind of difficult for Heart, Smooth, Radio 2, etc. to play Good Times, when all those stations categorically refuse to play songs with rapping in.

 

Also, of course you won't remember On the Floor fondly, since you don't like it. I won't remember Just the Way You Are and Poker Face fondly either, because I hate them.

 

A general trend I've noticed is, if you love a song, you remember it fondly, and if you hate a song, you don't remember it fondly. :lol:

 

Will you stop quoting your opinion as fact? Saying they 'are' the worst songs of 2010. That's just what you think. Quite a lot of people clearly disagree.

 

Of course people will remember On The Floor. All songs get remembered to some degree. But will radio still be playing OTF in even one year? I very much doubt it. Will they still be playing JTWYA and FY!? They probably will. The songs that continue to get played on the radio are the songs which will be remembered by future generations and not just be a song that you vaguely remember but can't recall the tune of which OTF will likely be.

 

As for the last paragraph, surely that's obvious? But we're not talking about what individual people remember fondly, we're talking about songs which will become associated with 2010 / 2011 in general in the future and songs which everyone knows the words or the tune to.

Edited April 25, 201115 yr by Bray

Forget You and Just the Way You Are are specifically designed to be played everywhere. That's one reason why they're two of the poorest songs from 2010. And that's one reason you'll think they're the best songs in the future, because Heart and Smooth will still play them. They're just generic RnB trash. Infact, they're barely even RnB, they're basically pop songs.

 

Yes, they're pop songs, and very much the better for that. No need for every song to be R & B/Hip-Hop/Rap. I think "Just The Way You Are" will go down as a possible all-time classic (not so sure about "Forget You"). It's a very well-written song, the production on it is top notch and the vocals, while not techincally the best, suit the song just right. And then, you call them "generic R & B trash" and praise "My Humps" to the hilt? Pot, kettle, black?

 

--

Richard

 

^ My Humps isn't generic though. That's why most people either love it or hate it. It's a controversial song. You don't hear songs like My Humps enterting the chart every fortnight.

 

But I still don't think you're all getting it. Forget You and Just the Way You Are are some of the most radio-friendly songs of the year. They'll be played on the radio for years because they're radio friendly. Adults will remember those songs in the future because they're on the radio all the time.

 

Pass Out and We No Speak Americano won't be played on the radio in 10 years time because they're not generic, they're not tailored for Heart FM, and so they're not radio-friendly. Yet everyone will still remember them.

But I still don't think you're all getting it. Forget You and Just the Way You Are are some of the most radio-friendly songs of the year. They'll be played on the radio for years because they're radio friendly. Adults will remember those songs in the future because they're on the radio all the time.

 

Pass Out and We No Speak Americano won't be played on the radio in 10 years time because they're not generic, they're not tailored for Heart FM, and so they're not radio-friendly. Yet everyone will still remember them.

 

Yes, you're probably about right with most of that. But that doesn't make "Forget You" and "Just The Way You Are" bad songs like you were implying a couple of posts ago. They're appealing to a slightly different market, that's all.

Yes, you're probably about right with most of that. But that doesn't make "Forget You" and "Just The Way You Are" bad songs like you were implying a couple of posts ago. They're appealing to a slightly different market, that's all.

 

Okay. I do really loathe those songs, so I get very biased when I talk about them. :lol: I think you might be right about the markets. I think they'll be remembered more fondly by people that like music from, say the 80's, than from people who like music from the 00's.

 

I remember the first time I heard Forget You on the radio (I had no idea how big it would become at the time). It was on Radio 1 late in the evening, and Cee-Lo Green was being interviewed, and I remember the presenter commenting "that sounds like a classic record", and I assume that was the first time the presenter heard the song too.

 

It's just annoying, because ever since I was a little kid and I was enjoying songs like Barbie Girl by Aqua, Tragedy by Steps, etc. My parents were always saying things like "When you're older, you'll look back at Barbie Girl and be embarrassed that you like it", "The original version of Tragedy is better. No one will remember this tacky Steps version in a few years", and so on. So I just get annoyed when it seems to happen with every song that I like. :lol: I don't even like On the Floor that much anyway (I like it, but not an enourmous amount). I gave it a '-1' in the Reshuffle Chart, for example.

Edited April 25, 201115 yr by Eric_Blob

But I still don't think you're all getting it. Forget You and Just the Way You Are are some of the most radio-friendly songs of the year. They'll be played on the radio for years because they're radio friendly. Adults will remember those songs in the future because they're on the radio all the time.

 

Pass Out and We No Speak Americano won't be played on the radio in 10 years time because they're not generic, they're not tailored for Heart FM, and so they're not radio-friendly. Yet everyone will still remember them.

 

Yes, because they're radio friendly they can more easily become a well remembered song. That is how it's always worked.

 

However, there are always exceptions to the rule. Gangsta's Paradise for example is a very well remembered song and that has loads of rap in it. Pass Out I think will be remembered. Not sure about WNSA.

Yes, because they're radio friendly they can more easily become a well remembered song. That is how it's always worked.

 

However, there are always exceptions to the rule. Gangsta's Paradise for example is a very well remembered song and that has loads of rap in it. Pass Out I think will be remembered. Not sure about WNSA.

 

I haven't heard 'We No Speak Americano' on the radio in ages! But I do think in 10 years time if you asked a friend 'Do you remember WNSA' they would say yes. Same with Barbra Streisand, that was absolutely massive in my area, and still is today.

I haven't heard 'We No Speak Americano' on the radio in ages! But I do think in 10 years time if you asked a friend 'Do you remember WNSA' they would say yes. Same with Barbra Streisand, that was absolutely massive in my area, and still is today.

 

What makes these songs memorable IMO is the fact that they were so different from the typical songs at the time.

Yes, because they're radio friendly they can more easily become a well remembered song. That is how it's always worked.

 

However, there are always exceptions to the rule. Gangsta's Paradise for example is a very well remembered song and that has loads of rap in it. Pass Out I think will be remembered. Not sure about WNSA.

 

'Pass Out' will be remembered for being the debut single of Tinie Tempah who is amazingly popular and shows no signs of fading, although WITS is much more radio friendly so that could be more rembered. WNSA will face the same fate as many other dance songs and fade away. Would the average person remember songs like 9PM, Put Your Hands Up For Detroit, WNSA and Barbra Streisand over songs like Pass Out, She Said, [insert any song by a male artist that is from the UK and has some rapping in it]. I don't think so.

 

I love 'Forget You' so it being a radio hit is great for me but its a shame people in 10 years time will know all the words to JTWYA yet go :wacko: when a song like 'Like A G6' or 'Boom Boom Pow' gets played on the radio.

Yes, because they're radio friendly they can more easily become a well remembered song. That is how it's always worked.

 

However, there are always exceptions to the rule. Gangsta's Paradise for example is a very well remembered song and that has loads of rap in it. Pass Out I think will be remembered. Not sure about WNSA.

 

I always found it weird with Gangsta's Paradise actually. Not only the rapping, but also the sampling. Two things that are very frowned upon by most people (especially older people, although I'm a big fan of both). It's a well-known sample too (a Stevie Wonder album track, I think). It's not like it sampled some obscure song which nobody knew, so I agree with you, it's quite puzzling how it's looked back on so fondly.

 

I guess the song is lucky it didn't have autotune in it too. :lol:

 

At the same time though, while it is annoying that in 10 years time all the kids will only know I Gotta Feeling from the Black Eyed Peas, when it's not even close to their best (even from that album, Boom Boom Pow and Meet Me Halfway were so much better), I bet the songs from the 70's and the 80's that are on the radio all the time that we all know are probably far from the best from those eras too. Again, it's probably just the most radio-friendly, MOR, etc. songs getting played.

Edited April 25, 201115 yr by Eric_Blob

Why are people here so obsessed with what songs will be remembered? Does it really matter? We're hardly the people to judge, posting as we are on a MUSIC FORUM, therefore naturally having a deeper interest in music than your average member of the public. We can hardly attempt to put ourselves in Joe Public's shoes, so I don't see why people keep trying to. There are more interesting things to talk about, honestly...

 

But if we have to entertain the subject, I think every song mentioned over the last page or so will be remembered. You have to give the public more credit, I think. Even if they have to hear it to remember it, they'll still remember them.

 

And on another subject, Forget You IS an R&B song. The problem is that R&B has evolved into something completely different to what it used to be, but IT IS R&B. It's more in the definition of "rhythm and blues" (which some people would call soul, nowadays, due to the newer version of R&B that has emerged in the last two decades being so different to the old type). Obviously it's a very pop version of it - but then almost every song in the charts is a poppier version of the genre it spawned from. But please don't try to say it's not R&B just because it's not in the same mould as every other R&B song in the charts these days (bar Aloe Blacc ;))

Edited April 25, 201115 yr by superbossanova