Let's put this to bed... officially Radio 1 are the only ones that are contracted from OCC to post it entirely in full form. If its posted on here or anyone else in full we are liable, as OCC holds the copyright. We are not authorised from OCC to post the whole 40 on here.

Of course you can post it. Are you seriously saying that no other site on the internet can post the Top 40?

RedOne, Alex Da Kid, Timbaland? :lol:

 

When Love Takes Over sampled it's piano loop from Clocks by Coldplay. He didn't "nick" it, because he paid for it!!! :lol:

 

Coldplay are not much better than David Guetta though. Speed of Sound sounds exactly the same as Clocks imo. Like with Just Dance/Poker Face, when Speed of Sound came out, it wasn't until someone told me that I noticed it was a different song to Clocks.

 

Also, interestingly, Pixie Lott covered When Love Takes Over, except her version sounds like Viva La Vida more than it sounds like Clocks (the Viva La Vida strings start about a minute into the song). :lol: This also proves the song isn't reliant on the Clocks sample.

 

 

Out of interest, what do you think the Guetta duplicate to Memories is?

 

And finally, have you heard this song? Except in this situation, Coldplay didn't pay to use the melody from this in Viva La Vida (although they got taken to court for it, and the two artists reached an out of court settlement). This song was released in 2004.

 

 

The Coldplay / Joe Satriani thing is bull$h!t. There's practically no similarity at all. Stealing a melody is what Chris Brown did to Calvin Harris. Coldplay just came up with a melody that Joe Satriani thought was similar to his own. There are only so many melodies you can make and there are thousands of songs out there.

 

Also, I hope you're joking about the bolded part or I seriously worry you may be retarded. :(

Edited May 5, 201114 yr by Bray

The Coldplay / Joe Satriani thing is bull$h!t. There's practically no similarity at all. Stealing a melody is what Chris Brown did to Calvin Harris. Coldplay just came up with a melody that Joe Satriani thought was similar to his own. There are only so many melodies you can make and there are thousands of songs out there.

 

Also, I hope you're joking about the bolded part or I seriously worry you may be retarded. :(

 

Clocks and Speed of Sound sounded so similar, I couldn't differentiate them at first.

 

Although, to be fair, there's people posting here who think Sexy Chick sounds the same Acapella, so I guess we all have our faults with regards to not being able to tell songs apart. :lol:

 

With the Viva La Vida melody, were you listening to the correct part of the song? Most of the song sounds nothing alike, but there's a couple of specific parts which sound, almost identical to the Viva La Vida melody. There are a couple of notes different, but there's also a couple of notes difference between Chris Brown/JLS/Calvin Harris.

With the Viva La Vida melody, were you listening to the correct part of the song? Most of the song sounds nothing alike, but there's a couple of specific parts which sound, almost identical to the Viva La Vida melody. There are a couple of notes different, but there's also a couple of notes difference between Chris Brown/JLS/Calvin Harris.

 

I've listened to all of it several times and never found a part that sounds like VLV that can't be covered by 'it was a coincidence'.

Clocks and Speed of Sound sound barely alike apart from the opening piano melody - the latter's more upbeat for a start, and Clocks solely consists of a piano largely, there are guitars and other synthesisers listenable in SOS

 

plus the chorus' are both completely different- Clocks only has 'you..are' ahead of a piano, SOS has a longer and more upbeat chorus

 

listening to that Joe Satriani song, yes, it sounds a little similar to Viva La Vida at one point, but it was all bull$h!t anyway, its merely 'similar' not 'rip off' certainly not to the same extent as I'm Not Alone/Yeah 3x/Eyes Wide Shut

 

 

Edited May 5, 201114 yr by chart wizard

With the Viva La Vida melody, were you listening to the correct part of the song? Most of the song sounds nothing alike, but there's a couple of specific parts which sound, almost identical to the Viva La Vida melody. There are a couple of notes different, but there's also a couple of notes difference between Chris Brown/JLS/Calvin Harris.

This was chucked out of the court - an opportunist trying to make some money off Coldplay. -_-

Of course you can post it. Are you seriously saying that no other site on the internet can post the Top 40?

:huh: I'm sorry, are you from the OCC? Do you know of a change to their policy? We stick by what the OCC have told us in the past and that's that.

This video plays the melodies on top of each other. I think they're a bit too similar tbh. I don't have any problem with songs sounding similar, I mean, I am a Black Eyed Peas fan!!! Just a bit unfair to slate an artist for doing it if artists you like do it too. It's like last year with the Red Hot Chilli Peppers vs. Diana Vickers controversy. The RHCP fans were being really cruel about it, but the RHCP had done exactly the same to other artists as Diana Vickers had done to them.

 

 

You can say there's notes different in this, but there's clearly notes different in these two songs two:

 

 

Both songs are both as guilty as each other imo.

 

However, out of the four songs (I'm Not Alone) is the only one that's actually good anyway, in my opinion, so. :lol: I find the others boring (although I liked Viva La Vida at the time, but we've got Firework now. :lol:).

Edited May 5, 201114 yr by Eric_Blob

This was chucked out of the court - an opportunist trying to make some money off Coldplay. -_-

 

Yusuf Islam also later said one of his songs sounds similar to VLV and he said he may sue Coldplay 'depending on how Satriani does' (source: Wikipedia). That says it all really :P

 

BTW, I don't think Diana copied RHCP either.

Edited May 5, 201114 yr by Bray

There is barely any similarity between Joe Satriani and Coldplay imo - plus a court thought the same so that makes me happy enough.

only about three notes sound the same to me - the guitar solo and the vocal don't follow the same melody- nothing that isn't a co-incidence, anyway, he was just trying to get some attention anyway, whereas with I'm Not Alone/Yeah 3x, the melody follows the exact same pattern

Edited May 5, 201114 yr by chart wizard

Yusuf Islam also later said one of his songs sounds similar to VLV and he said he may sue Coldplay 'depending on how Satriani does' (source: Wikipedia). That says it all really :P

 

BTW, I don't think Diana copied RHCP either.

 

It says on Wikipedia that they had an "out-of-court settlement", which could very well means Coldplay paid Satriani in the end anyway.

 

Not that it matters, just brought it up because of double standards and everything. :lol:

 

There is barely any similarity between Joe Satriani and Coldplay imo - plus a court thought the same so that makes me happy enough.

 

If artists end up in court over a case like this, they don't only base it on whether the songs sound similar. They take things into account, such as whether the artists accused of plagiarism could've feasibly heard the original song in the first place. If the songs were almost identical, but the court decided that there was absolutely no possible way the artists could've heard the song it "copied", they could still be let off.

 

The songs clearly have almost the same melody to me though, in a similar way that Yeah 3x and I'm Not Alone do. Although in Viva La Vida they sing the melody, whilst in the Joe Satriani song it's played by an instrument.

Edited May 5, 201114 yr by Eric_Blob

Is Beyoncé still at #19?

 

Yep, no change.

 

Of course you can post it. Are you seriously saying that no other site on the internet can post the Top 40?

 

 

:blink: Show me proof apart from MW and Radio 1 where the midweek top 40 chart is posted in its full glory.

It says on Wikipedia that they had an "out-of-court settlement", which could very well means Coldplay paid Satriani in the end anyway.

 

Not that it matters, just brought it up because of double standards and everything. :lol:

 

I'm sure most Coldplay fans would be willing to admit they copied something if they did. Which they didn't. It was just Joe Satriani being a prat.

It says on Wikipedia that they had an "out-of-court settlement", which could very well means Coldplay paid Satriani in the end anyway.

 

I don't think they did as they didn't do anything wrong- even as a Coldplay fan, I can admit when they've ripped something off, that was not one of the cases

I'm just shocked people can't tell that they're similar tbh! :o I mean, I'm always noticing similarities between songs, but the Coldplay/Satriani similarity is more similar than most of the ones I point out in the iTunes thread!

to clear this up, I do think they sound *quite* similar, but thats nothing that can be deemed a 'rip-off' and more just a simple 'sounds like' if any, court case worthy? I think not! same with Diana and RHCP, they sound similar, but hardly a rip-off

to clear this up, I do think they sound *quite* similar, but thats nothing that can be deemed a 'rip-off' and more just a simple 'sounds like' if any, court case worthy? I think not! same with Diana and RHCP, they sound similar, but hardly a rip-off

 

Oh, okay. I thought people were saying they sound completely different. :lol:

 

Yeah, it could easily be coincidental. I don't think the JLS one was coincidental, because whilst not exactly the same, I'll admit that, they are VERY similar, and unless JLS and their producers were living under a rock in 2009 (literally), they should know I'm Not Alone.

 

I can quite easily imagine Chris Brown not knowing I'm Not Alone tbh (he lives in the US, for starters), although I imagine his producer must've known it (and possibly copied it). Looking at the producer's discography, he has produced some songs with samples in before (most notably Right Round for Flo Rida and Ke$ha), so he clearly can ask for samples if he wants to. Perhaps he hadn't fully grasped how well-known I'm Not Alone was in the UK, and he thought nobody would notice?

 

About Diana Vickers and RHCP, apparently Diana said that she was listening to Under the Bridge when she was writing My Wicked Heart, so if that's true, it's possible that it's at least influenced by the song. But again, I had no problem with it, even if she did copy it. My main problem was the RHCP fans being vile and hypocritical about it (not to mention, Under the Bridge was never that good in the first place imo).

Edited May 5, 201114 yr by Eric_Blob

:huh: I'm sorry, are you from the OCC? Do you know of a change to their policy? We stick by what the OCC have told us in the past and that's that.

What has the OCC said in the past? Has there been an official correspondence?

 

 

:blink: Show me proof apart from MW and Radio 1 where the midweek top 40 chart is posted in its full glory.

I didnt say have, I said can.

 

If the OCC officially releases data to a public organisation then that information is in the public domain and can be posted in full as long as it is sourced correctly.

What has the OCC said in the past? Has there been an official correspondence?

I didnt say have, I said can.

 

If the OCC officially releases data to a public organisation then that information is in the public domain and can be posted in full as long as it is sourced correctly.

 

I don't know the ins and outs of this, but there could be a very valid point here. We never posted the top 40 mids in full before because the OCC never previously provided an 'official' midweek countdown on the radio, therefore any material published was indeed available only to subscribers and it would have therefore been wrong for us to use it.

 

However, now that it is indeed out in the public domain, and available for all to hear on Radio 1 and all to see on the Radio 1 website, surely we have just as much right to post that on here now as we do posting something like Radio 2's 'top 40 one hit wonders' or indeed the official UK top 75 on a Sunday, even if it's only in quotation marks and saying 'SOURCE: Radio 1 website'? Whatever the OCC may have said in 2006 when full midweek charts were not available in the public domain, it could very well be different now. They wouldn't have a leg to stand on about somebody quoting something from another site in the public domain. It's common practice on every website/forum on the internet and they lost exclusivity rights to the data as soon as they allowed for it to be seen and heard by anyone with an internet connection anywhere in the world.

 

But like I say, I'm not trying to rub anybody up the wrong way, it's just the way that I see it. I could well be wrong though, I don't know what the official OCC stance is on these matters in 2011, they're a bizarre company so nothing would surprise me :lol: