I liked those years. Although I'm obviously going to like them, since they were bang in the middle of my senior school and college years (which were 2002-2010, or something like that). :lol:

 

I definitely didnt enjoy them, I remember feeling how music was starting to suck back then. But then my favourite period was late 90s/early 00s music, so the mid 00s were such a letdown for me.

It is funny how the charts are so club orientated these days, but there is such a lack of house, trance, eurodance, in the charts. Most of it is electro-pop, or urban-dance.

 

Yeah I know exactly what you mean. In one way it's nice to see dance in some way being the dominant sound, but on the other hand you don't feel like a trance song could ever be a hit in the UK now unless Flo Rida or Pitbull phone in a rap part :lol:

^ Rap and dance? I'm pretty sure at least 4 of the top 10 are pop songs too.

So I'm afraid I can't agree with Jester that we don't have one genre dominating, as we very much do - it's just not exactly a defined genre in its own right, more a hybrid of two - rap and dance.

Hmmm, fair point Rich.

^ Rap and dance? I'm pretty sure at least 4 of the top 10 are pop songs too.

 

Pop by its very nature skims the surface of several genres though.

'pop' is just 'popular music' really, so anything in the charts could be classed as 'pop'

10. Mann feat 50 Cent - Buzzin' -> Club banger, rap/urban meets dance -> US

 

I know classification of genre is mostly down to personal opinion but I highly question this. Buzzin is just an early-00s hip hop song. It's not a 'club banger' and it doesn't 'meet dance' at all.

 

IMO.

 

I can see other songs by Jay-Z and Linkin Park being seen as classics in the future (99 Problems for Jay, most like In The End for LP)

 

'What I've Done' if anything surely? :P

Edited May 3, 201114 yr by Bray

'pop' is just 'popular music' really, so anything in the charts could be classed as 'pop'

 

Actually no, it did start that way, but there is a "pop" genre, since at least the 60s. So it depends on which term someone refers to

still, I'm pretty sure most of the top 10 songs could be classed/semi-classed as 'pop' as well as their other genres

 

'What I've Done' if anything surely? :P

 

I disagree, In The End and Numb have aged far better than it imo, even though that was their highest peaking

This may sound weird but on wikipedia, it says that one of the genres for rolling in the deep is surprisingly rock :o

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_in_the_Deep

I know classification of genre is mostly down to personal opinion but I highly question this. Buzzin is just an early-00s hip hop song. It's not a 'club banger' and it doesn't 'meet dance' at all.

 

IMO.

 

Fair point, it's definitely the one that's least like the rest of them, but in the same way, it could come on in the middle of Party Rock Anthem and Where Dem Girls At and would hardly sound wildly out of place or standout imo.

This may sound weird but on wikipedia, it says that one of the genres for rolling in the deep is surprisingly rock :o

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_in_the_Deep

 

Also on wikipedia:

 

In My Head by Jason Derulo

Once by Diana Vickers

Written in the Stars by Tinie Tempah

This Ain't a Love Song by Scouting For Girls

 

These four are all classified as pop rock (except the latter which is classified as indie rock).

 

If you go by wikipedia's genres, there were 4 rock influenced #1s last year.

 

Actually 5, since it classified When We Collide as pop rock too.

Edited May 3, 201114 yr by Eric_Blob

Also on wikipedia:

 

In My Head by Jason Derulo

Once by Diana Vickers

Written in the Stars by Tinie Tempah

This Ain't a Love Song by Scouting For Girls

 

These four are all classified as pop rock (except the latter which is classified as indie rock).

 

If you go by wikipedia's genres, there were 4 rock influenced #1s last year.

 

Actually 5, since it classified When We Collide as pop rock too.

In a weird way, I can see written in the stars being in a rock genre only if because of the guitar playing towards the end though

Also on wikipedia:

 

In My Head by Jason Derulo

Once by Diana Vickers

Written in the Stars by Tinie Tempah

This Ain't a Love Song by Scouting For Girls

 

These four are all classified as pop rock (except the latter which is classified as indie rock).

 

If you go by wikipedia's genres, there were 4 rock influenced #1s last year.

 

Actually 5, since it classified When We Collide as pop rock too.

 

Wikipedia apparently considers 'a guitar' a qualification for being a rock-influenced song. However, I do agree 'indie rock' is about right for TAALS.

Edited May 3, 201114 yr by Bray

In a weird way, I can see written in the stars being in a rock genre only if because of the guitar playing towards the end though

 

Yeah, I wouldn't have really considered it rock. Although, I'm listening to the instrumental now, and I can kind of see where they're coming from. Although I'd say it's primarily hip hop, with pop as a secondary genre. Rock maybe as a third genre, but not much of it really.

 

 

Wikipedia apparently considers 'a guitar' a qualification for being a rock-influenced song. However, I do agree 'indie rock' is about right for TAALS.

 

Well, I think wikipedia is very liberal with assigning genres. But there are lots of songs with guitars in which it doesn't say are rock. Meet Me Halfway for example, and the guitar in Meet Me Halfway is actually sampled from a rock song by the Yeah Yeah Yeahs.

Edited May 3, 201114 yr by Eric_Blob

I wouldn't classify any of those songs as 'rock' except maybe Scouting For Girls, but far more 'pop rock', basically softer, more mainstream, radio-friendly rock, Written In The Stars has influences of rock, but I still wouldn't call it rock

 

When We Collide is actually a soft-rock kind of song by Biffy Clyro, Matt Cardle's is a bit more 'pop' than 'rock' though

Numb/Encore is a classic already. It doesn't matter that it's not original. Lots of unoriginal, sampled songs or songs done in homage to some of other song or act can become a classic.

 

Back in 2002 we had plenty of singles by artists featuring other artists (feat. Ashanti was the suffix of choice) but it was nowhere nearly as bad as it is now. It's a game of covering bases now to maximize tv and radio coverage and to appeal to as wide an audience as possible. And it's working.

Edited May 3, 201114 yr by tonyttt31

I'd classify the top 10 as:

LMFAO - Party Rock Anthem - rap/dance

Bruno Mars - The Lazy Song - Pop (a bit of R&B)

Chris Brown ft. Benny Benassi - Beautiful People - R&B/dance

Snoop Dogg ft. David Guetta - Sweat - dance/rap

Jennifer Lopez ft. Pitbull - On The Floor - dance-pop (I won't classify it under rap as Pitbull just raps a bit - just my opinion)

David Guetta etc. - Where Dem Girls At - rap/dance

Wretch32 ft. Example - Unorthodox - hip-hop

Katy Perry ft. Kanye West - E.T. - pop/R&B (see OTF for why I omitted rap)

Tracy Chapman - Fast Car - alternative/folk (a bit stuck at what genre this falls into :lol:)

Mann ft. 50 Cent - Buzzin' - hip-hop

 

Adele is a hard one to classify. RITD could come under pop, it seems a bit weird saying SLY is pop, but you can't say it's alternative or soul... Idk, the whole point of this post was the top 10 anyway :lol: (which btw makes me see Fast Car is the only song with no urban influences in - OTF would be just dance-pop w/o Pitbull, but then arguably you could bring R&B into it too)

 

Ftr, I don't generally like to use Pop as a genre - I prefer to dance-pop, urban pop or whatever.

I know I sound like an old man bleating on here but having been an avid chart follower from about the age of 11-21, and still following it with a lesser interest now I really just miss the days where I could sit down and listen to the top 40 and genuinely feel like I'd hear a differentiated, really interesting mix of songs from artists of all ages, genres and nationalities. Now I sit down and hear 30 odd 'club tracks with rapper' and the odd old song/new release from a different genre that's usually been bumped up by some reality TV show, because radio seem to not want to play and promote anything else - even though it's clearly out there (look at the German charts for example - you genuinely feel like anything could be a smash hit and supported by radio there).

 

So NO, popular music isn't at an all time low, there is GREAT music around, but you have to search for it. Are the UK charts at an all time low? Also no - imo, the low sales periods of the mid 00s throwing crap one week wonder fanbase buys and Elvis re-issues into the top five were much worse. Have the UK charts lost their indentity and personality? Most definitely yes, our top ten basically mimics the US/Australian charts these days, the days of absolutely anything being a huge hit off its own back and quality, without having to rely on being sung/used on a TV reality show to get noticed, seem over for now at least. Birdy and Aloe Blacc are the closest we've got to something like that right now, very different songs that have grown organically albeit with radio support, but even so, it doesn't look like either will be troubling the top ten.

 

That said, one very different TV event (as it's promoting brand new songs) that I do love is Eurovision, and it's very interesting to be a fan of it in the digital era. I know the chances of anything becoming a bona fide hit from it are slim to none, but for a few days each year at least, it throws some real oddities into the iTunes top 100, songs that would never EVER get radio support. Alexander Rybak's Fairytale a UK top ten hit for example - an incredibly universal pop/folk song from Norway. Not the sort of thing that anybody would probably expect to see the UK public buy, but they did! Except it crashed and burned afterwards with no post-contest support here whatsoever. Lets say that the same song had never been in the contest, but had instead been like any other hit song - climbed steadily up the Radio 1 playlist until it was on the A-list getting 25 plays a week. I can almost guarantee that it wouldn't have flopped here if that was the case - people WILL still buy unique and different songs, but not if they're not exposed to them, and it's this death of variety which saddens me, and why for the last three years in particular, I've become far less interested in the UK charts. Although 2009 in particular seemed to be a lot more interesting somehow - the sight of both Agnes and Alexander Rybak getting top ten hits at the same time was too much to handle :lol: But 2010 and 2011 has indeed seemed very samey, and radio should definitely take some of the blame for this with what they refuse to support and what they support far too much. No way is music at an all time low, it's just that radio and TV music channels seem to want people to believe that it is by pumping exactly the same things out all day every day.

Adele is a hard one to classify. RITD could come under pop, it seems a bit weird saying SLY is pop,

 

 

RITD is blues more than anything else and SLY is a ballad. Simple.