I don't think I've ever met an avid Dido fan, her sales seemed to mainly stem from casual buyers which makes it even more impressive.

 

 

Why is that more impressive? I'm just curious. There are far more casual buyers of mainstream albums than there are avid fans.

Looking like a safe bet for 4 million, in fact, I'd say 5 million isn't out of the question by 31 Dec 2011!

this will definately be the peak of adele's career. to sell 10 million copies of an particularly 'average' album (apart from SFTTR and RITD which are class) is a great feat.....however she wouldnt be the first to set herself unrealistic targets for her next album.

many will believe that it will sell the same as 21, however i also rememeber leona selling over 3million and then scraping 600k for her second album. i think this will be the case again.

i cant see her next album shifting over 1.5million (if its released at xmas), thats not me being pessimistic, its me being realistic.

Edited September 12, 201113 yr by jay727

'Gold' by ABBA, is now on over 4,950,000 UK Sales. (Globally 28.5 Million to 29 Million)

 

'Sgt Pepper...', by The Beatles, has sold over 5 Million UK copies. (Globally 32 Million)

 

'Greatest Hits' (One), by Queen, is on over 5,700,000 UK copies. (Globally 25 Million to 27 Million)

 

Even if you remove the percentage Sales, that the Queen Album got from 'The Platinum Collection'

(About 560,000 to 566,000), it is still the UK's Best Selling Album.

 

We will see if Adele will outsell those 3 Albums, in the UK. It will be harder for her to do so Globally.

'21' has sold about 10.5 Million Globally, but over 3 Million of those are from the UK.

Edited September 12, 201113 yr by zeus555

this will definately be the peak of adele's career. to sell 10 million copies of an particularly 'average' album (apart from SFTTR and RITD which are class) is a great feat.....however she wouldnt be the first to set herself unrealistic targets for her next album.

many will believe that it will sell the same as 21, however i also rememeber leona selling over 3million and then scraping 600k for her second album. i think this will be the case again.

i cant see her next album shifting over 1.5million (if its released at xmas), thats not me being pessimistic, its me being realistic.

 

I think you're right, it's very unusual for an act to replicate massive sales like that. The most recent example is probably Dido with her first two albums shifting almost the same amount. There's about 200k difference between the two and I don't think anything has come as close as that for a long time.

I think you're right, it's very unusual for an act to replicate massive sales like that. The most recent example is probably Dido with her first two albums shifting almost the same amount. There's about 200k difference between the two and I don't think anything has come as close as that for a long time.

 

exactly!

I never 'got' Dido. Her Music & voice are so bland, that she makes Karen Carpenter sound like Johnny Rotten!

 

'No Angel' is now on 3,063,000 UK Sales. With 'Life For Rent' on over 2,850,000. If you recall, her 3rd

Album - 'Safe Trip Home' - performed terribly - entering at No.2, & falling to No.18, if I recall correctly!

 

So, you can be huge with 1 or 2 Albums, & then people seem to lose interest in your 2nd or 3rd Album.

We will see what Adele can achieve with Album 3 - be it called '22' or '23'......

Edited September 12, 201113 yr by zeus555

this will definately be the peak of adele's career. to sell 10 million copies of an particularly 'average' album (apart from SFTTR and RITD which are class) is a great feat.....however she wouldnt be the first to set herself unrealistic targets for her next album.

many will believe that it will sell the same as 21, however i also rememeber leona selling over 3million and then scraping 600k for her second album. i think this will be the case again.

i cant see her next album shifting over 1.5million (if its released at xmas), thats not me being pessimistic, its me being realistic.

 

Many outside this forum maybe but us sensible chart-knowledgeable people know that she will be extremely lucky to sell anywhere near as much with album 3 as she did with this one. I'm sure it'll easily pass 1 million on hype alone and it's going to have monstrous first week sales (possibly challenging Oasis' record) especially if it's released in Q4 but it's highly unlikely to have the longevity and remarkably consistent sales and chart positions 21 did. There is a very small chance she could have similar success but it's more likely album 3 will underperform in comparison (which is of course not underperforming at all by most other artists' standards).

'Gold' by ABBA, is now on over 4,950,000 UK Sales. (Globally 28.5 Million to 29 Million)

 

'Sgt Pepper...', by The Beatles, has sold over 5 Million UK copies. (Globally 32 Million)

 

'Greatest Hits' (One), by Queen, is on over 5,700,000 UK copies. (Globally 25 Million to 27 Million)

 

Even if you remove the percentage Sales, that the Queen Album got from 'The Platinum Collection'

(About 560,000 to 566,000), it is still the UK's Best Selling Album.

 

We will see if Adele will outsell those 3 Albums, in the UK. It will be harder for her to do so Globally.

'21' has sold about 10.5 Million Globally, but over 3 Million of those are from the UK.

 

Ah, but this is like the reverse of the situation with films. On the all-time highest grossing films list 17 of the top 20 are from the 21st century and 8 of them from 2009-11 alone - it doesn't necessarily mean that, for example, Shrek 2 was more popular than Jurassic Park. It just appears to be so due to ticket price inflation. Accounting for the overall decrease in album sales the past few years both in the UK and worldwide 21 may be closer to the heights of those albums than it seems. Not that I'm suggesting 21 is the biggest album ever. It just may be bigger than the figures suggest. We'll see if its sales remain strong indefinitely or if it suddenly drops off the radar without warning. It's going to be extremely bizarre to see '21' outside the top 5 when it eventually drops out.

Edited September 12, 201113 yr by Bré

The reason Leona lewis flopped on her second album was because there was just so much momentum and a huge commercial push with Spirit, that echo didnt get. Spirit certainly didnt have the consisitency that 21 has had.

I think you're right, it's very unusual for an act to replicate massive sales like that. The most recent example is probably Dido with her first two albums shifting almost the same amount. There's about 200k difference between the two and I don't think anything has come as close as that for a long time.

 

Coldplay had pretty close album sales for their first three before a bit of a dropoff with VLVODAAHF and another likely dropoff with MX (although again that can be partially accounted for by the drop in album sales in general)

Coldplay had pretty close album sales for their first three before a bit of a dropoff with VLVODAAHF and another likely dropoff with MX (although again that can be partially accounted for by the drop in album sales in general)

 

True for some reason I forgot about Coldplay despite the fact I heard their new single this morning :lol: Take That are another act that spring to mind. I think I mentioned Dido just because her first 2 albums are still fairly ahead of any other artists' multiple selling albums with her having 2 in the top 10 of the century.

The reason Leona lewis flopped on her second album was because there was just so much momentum and a huge commercial push with Spirit, that echo didnt get. Spirit certainly didnt have the consisitency that 21 has had.

 

650,000+ sales, any artist would be happy with an album that big in UK. :D

 

I think Adele could hit near 4million by December, the upcoming weeks (especially round christmas) I can see the sales somehow going to be hugeee! Its not even been reduced yet on sale price, imagine then! It'll be the biggest selling UK album of all time.

Four million by the end of the year is still a distinct possibility. She needs to sell an average of around 60,000 per week. That's ahead of what she's selling now but she is bound to see a healthy increase from November onwards. Then, of course, she will get another boost in the new year when she gets nominated for every Brit Award for which she is eligible.

 

All of that means, of course, that the next album will have to sell 2.2 million + to sell even half as many as 21.

It is extremly rare for any artist, whoever it may be, to have more then ONE monster album. The follow up doesnt normally do as well, it would be unrealistic to think it could. Mahoosive sales like these are very rare, and it takes something extremly special, very few artists experience having such a huge album, only someone really special, with stand out material experiences success like this.

Edited September 12, 201113 yr by Karma

Ah, but this is like the reverse of the situation with films. On the all-time highest grossing films list 17 of the top 20 are from the 21st century and 8 of them from 2009-11 alone - it doesn't necessarily mean that, for example, Shrek 2 was more popular than Jurassic Park. It just appears to be so due to ticket price inflation. Accounting for the overall decrease in album sales the past few years both in the UK and worldwide 21 may be closer to the heights of those albums than it seems. Not that I'm suggesting 21 is the biggest album ever. It just may be bigger than the figures suggest. We'll see if its sales remain strong indefinitely or if it suddenly drops off the radar without warning. It's going to be extremely bizarre to see '21' outside the top 5 when it eventually drops out.

However as an opposite to films albums are a hell of a lot cheaper now than when Sgt. Pepper's was released, there's also a much higher population in the country now than there was then, but to counter Sgt. Peppers has been around longer and been released on more formats, I'm sure a lot of sales will be replacements.

People keep talking about Adele only probably going to get 1 monster album, what about 19? It's been top10 for 35 weeks and surely will hit 2mil by end of the year and sell well into next. Id say those sales are pretty hefty too, never mind '25' or whatever it may be called...

People keep talking about Adele only probably going to get 1 monster album, what about 19? It's been top10 for 35 weeks and surely will hit 2mil by end of the year and sell well into next. Id say those sales are pretty hefty too, never mind '25' or whatever it may be called...

 

Yes, 19 is a massive seller but it hasn't really done it on merit like 21. 21 has basically carried 19 to it's success with her debut selling more copies after 21's release than in the 3 previous years put together.

Thats true, 19 has been absolutely huge, sold 1million alone this year? I mean thats as incredible as the success as 21 to an extend :heehee:, if you think 19 was out years ago and has sold 1 million in 2011? Never seen anything like it myself. As T Boy said though that is mainly down to 21, but that doesnt take anything away from 19 and whatever happens next Adele isnt a one-hit-album wonder. :lol: I think every album she releases will sell over a million, that'll be an achievement in its self, not always trying to reach the incredible heights of a very rare achievement with 21!

Edited September 12, 201113 yr by Karma

Yes, 19 is a massive seller but it hasn't really done it on merit like 21. 21 has basically carried 19 to it's success with her debut selling more copies after 21's release than in the 3 previous years put together.

 

I'd still describe that as selling on merit - people love 21 so much that they become interested in her previous material which was previously (comparatively) overlooked.

 

In fact the only albums I'd describe as not selling on merit are albums specifically put out for an occasion such as Mothers' Day or Valentine's Day which generate their sales mostly through people seeing them and buying them as a gift for someone. And possibly albums released by artists with massive hype around them that's not because of their material (such as Susan Boyle's debut)