I'd still describe that as selling on merit - people love 21 so much that they become interested in her previous material which was previously (comparatively) overlooked.

 

In fact the only albums I'd describe as not selling on merit are albums specifically put out for an occasion such as Mothers' Day or Valentine's Day which generate their sales mostly through people seeing them and buying them as a gift for someone. And possibly albums released by artists with massive hype around them that's not because of their material (such as Susan Boyle's debut)

 

 

Yes, it has sold on merit but my point is had 21 not been released, 19 would not have sold the amount it has. That 21 is Adele's first 'massive' album. Although it was released first, 19 was not the monster album it is now and that is why people haven't mentioned it in this thread and expect a comedown in sales for the next album. Although, as has been discussed, that might not even happen.

The problem with having an album as huge as 21 is the follow up will always underperform in relation to the previous albums success. Even if her next album sells 1 million it will be deemed by many as underperforming which in reality isnt true as 1 million sales in itself is a huge success and a success many many artists would kill for.

 

In general not many acts follow up huge album with similar success, in recent years i think acts like take that have been one of very few who have managed it, coldplay who have also been mentioned in other posts have been very consistent with their sales and it will be interetsing to see how their new album performs and likewise when take that get round to releasing a new album.

 

 

Leona Lewis second album in a way surprised me by not selling better but as mentioned it got nowhere near got as much marketing as the first album, likewise spirit got a load of singles released if it where the second album didnt and its almost like the record company gave up on it to quick.

 

 

Sometimes though i do wonder if the follows up to huge albums often under perform because the buyers werent impressed with their previous purchase, to explain i will take adele's 21 for example, im sure many people bought the album on the back of the singles or the hype, just say they then didnt like the album after buying it it would then put them of buying the follow up even though the follow up might be overall the better album, i hope that makes sense in what im trying to say.

 

But before i forget i do think 21 stands an excellent chance of reaching 4 million by the end of the year and it will probably continue to sell well for at least the first 6 months of 2012.

Edited September 12, 201113 yr by Aphrodite

I can see adele breaking into the top 10 best selling albums in the uk definitely and probably top 5, I just can't see it breaking into top 3. I just think that 21 is one of those albums that comes along at exactly the right time and there is so much hype about it, that it sells amazingly in a year. However, with the top 3, all of those artists are legendary tbh, they were highly successful and were the frontrunners of their genre at the time (e.g. Abba during the late 70's era of disco music). That sole fact enables them to shift numerous copies for years and years and years even when they haven't released any new material. While Adele is a very big artist, she isn't yet at the same stage as those 3 in terms of status, so won't be able to shift as many albums in the long run as the top 3. However, there is still the possibility that if she is once again successful with her next album ( in this climate clearing 1.25 million with the album), that 21 will be able to become a catalogue seller in the same vein as sergeant peppers lonely hearts club band is for the beatles in that it is regarded by the public as that particular artists greatest work.

Sometimes though i do wonder if the follows up to huge albums often under perform because the buyers werent impressed with their previous purchase, to explain i will take adele's 21 for example, im sure many people bought the album on the back of the singles or the hype, just say they then didnt like the album after buying it it would then put them of buying the follow up even though the follow up might be overall the better album, i hope that makes sense in what im trying to say.

 

I might agree with you if not for the fact 21 is pretty much universally considered a fantastic album. The situation you described happened with Oasis after their Be Here Now era - it set the record for fastest selling album ever due to the hype around them but ultimately didn't sell much in total when people realised it wasn't very good and they never quite recovered to the success of (WTS)MG?

 

It might happen to Adele if album 3 turns out to be crap though.

 

Yes, it has sold on merit but my point is had 21 not been released, 19 would not have sold the amount it has. That 21 is Adele's first 'massive' album. Although it was released first, 19 was not the monster album it is now and that is why people haven't mentioned it in this thread and expect a comedown in sales for the next album. Although, as has been discussed, that might not even happen.

 

I understand your point but I don't personally think it matters when the sales occurred when considering how big an album is. 19 was big to start off with and became massive around the same time 21 did (they passed a million within a few days of each other)

Edited September 12, 201113 yr by Bré

It wont do 4 million this year. It will be well into next year - maybe March - when it does. Especially as she said there would be no deluxe edition.

It wont do 4 million this year. It will be well into next year - maybe March - when it does. Especially as she said there would be no deluxe edition.

 

I see no reason why it wouldn't do 4 million by the end of the year unless it somehow drops out of the top 10. It's likely to benefit a lot from Christmas sales. And I think it'll pass 5 million some time next year.

Edited September 13, 201113 yr by Bré

It will totally sell 4 million by the end of the year! There's no way this album is going outside the top 10 this year. The less she'll sell for a month is 100k (Dec) I think she'll just make 4 million by the end of the year.

I think her sales will go big again around Christmas, possibly going over 100k again.

I STILL cant believe she sold 257k in her 10th week.

Apparently the poster above suffered a s/c.

Apparently the poster above suffered a s/c.

 

I'm not sure what an s/c is, but I thought Buzzjack didn't physically let you post that quickly, even in error.

It's 'short circuit'.

If she gets on The X Factor, I can imagine it being far more likely.

She will defo do it. at the moment she is selling 50k a week and if she keeps that up for the rest of the year that would put her at around 3,750,000. But we all know that at christmas time albums that have done good during the year get bought for presents therefore her sales will boom during december so i see her average a week tell the end of the year at the very least 70k which is enough to get her to 4million. :teresa:

Edited September 15, 201113 yr by PokeHerFace

If she gets on The X Factor, I can imagine it being far more likely.

 

She is 100% performing on X Factor, its just when. We'll probably have to wait till the final because thats when Simone will want her on, hopefullly performing Turning Tables :heart: (4th single please) :P. If she performs with one of the finalists that would be so unfair on the other finalists as they would definitely win. See (Rihanna & Matt Cardle & Alexandra Burke & Beyonce) :heehee:

Edited September 15, 201113 yr by Karma

4 million is a very tall order. needs an average of 68k+ a week for the rest of the year. I think 3.5 is more likely.

Still, you never know with Adele. I remember Koney on digital spy predicting 3.3 million by year end way back in Febuary, and we all laughed and called him ridiculously overoptimistic. lol

Whatever, shes still going to have the best selling album of the 21st century by then, and in the top ten best selling uk albums of all time...in just 11 months!.

 

ps.

If 19 sells well at at xmas as well, Adele could conceivably have sold 5 million albums in the UK alone this year, astonishing!!.

 

Edited September 15, 201113 yr by Olympus

I agree

 

Its unlikely.

 

But probable.

 

 

are't they the same thing?

are't they the same thing?

 

They're the exact opposite of each other aren't they?

They're the exact opposite of each other aren't they?

 

 

That's what I meant - I just didn't type what I meant. :lol:

A combination of X-Factor and a Deluxe version (even though she hates those) with presumably the Bond theme as one of it's extra tracks, along with the Brits performance of Someone Like You, and it could be possible for that 4 millionth sale before the end of the year.

A combination of X-Factor and a Deluxe version (even though she hates those) with presumably the Bond theme as one of it's extra tracks, along with the Brits performance of Someone Like You, and it could be possible for that 4 millionth sale before the end of the year.

 

Adele is doing the next Bond theme? I wonder if that could be a second #1 for her.

 

Also I highly doubt she'll let a deluxe version be released. And is she really likely to go on XF? I'm not sure she will to be honest, although I'm sure the XF producers will really want her to. If she gets an X Factor slot here she should also get one in the US I guess.

 

EDIT: The new Bond film isn't until right at the end of 2012 so even if Adele is doing the next theme we're not going to hear it for quite a while.

Edited September 15, 201113 yr by Bré