Posted July 25, 201113 yr Looking at this week's albums top 40, over half of them (22/40) are by acts that have no singles currently in the top 40 and of those 22 only one (Foo Fighters) is a duplicate: 4 6 11 Caro Emerald Deleted Scenes From The Cutting Room Floor 10 8 15 Foo Fighters Wasting Light 12 9 36 Take That Progress 13 12 37 Cee Lo Green The Lady Killer 17 5 2 The Horrors Skying 18 32 45 The Script Science & Faith 20 15 7 Arctic Monkeys Suck It And See 21 34 19 Elbow Build A Rocket Boys! 22 26 16 Katy B On A Mission 23 38 3 Selena Gomez & The Scene When The Sun Goes Down 24 50 8 The Pierces You & I 25 25 20 Noah And The Whale Last Night On Earth 26 31 8 Seasick Steve You Can't Teach An Old Dog New Tricks 27 19 31 Andrea Bocelli The Best Of - Vivere 31 42 38 Rumer Seasons Of My Soul 32 27 67 Plan B The Defamation Of Strickland Banks 33 21 19 The Vaccines What Did You Expect From The Vaccines? 34 28 88 Foo Fighters Greatest Hits 35 35 94 Mumford & Sons Sigh No More 36 29 6 Bad Meets Evil Hell - The Sequel 37 N 1 Kylie Minogue The Albums 2000-2010 40 33 5 Bon Iver Bon Iver Does anyone have any idea why the public seem to be drawn to completely different artists in the album charts? Has it always been like this or is this a recent trend? (Looking at it the other way around, 'only' 18 of the top 40 singles are by acts with no top 40 albums - but this is because Chris Brown, LMFAO and David Guetta have 1 album and 2 singles each, while Adele has 2 albums and 3 singles, making an overall 'difference' of 4 if you understand me :P) Edited July 25, 201113 yr by Bré
July 25, 201113 yr Author I suppose it can be partially explained by the facts the album chart is naturally more varied in artists as releases by the same artist are further apart - but 21 of the 37 artists in the album top 40 (duplicates by Adele, Lady Gaga and Foo Fighters) having no top 40 single just seems a little bit high...
July 25, 201113 yr I think it's because what's popular single-wise these days are artists who won't shift albums. Literally, fans would rather buy one off singles than whole albums. Whereas a lot of artists in the albums chart appeal to people who would rather have/can afford an album. I never download tracks from an artist if I have/know I want to have their album. These days I think I'd rather listen to the album top 40 than the singles.
July 25, 201113 yr The different demographics between "singles" buyers and album buyers is greater then ever before, due to the different way the majority of music of each type is sold - downloads v physical. While there were always a number of artists who sold well on one format and badly on the other (James Last being perhaps the biggest example), the differences between the two lists are getting bigger and bigger.
July 25, 201113 yr I think the gap is bigger than before for the reasons stated by other people. Of the albums you list only about half a dozen have had big hit singles off them with a few others having minor hits. Ten years ago bands such as Foo Fighters and The Vaccines might have expected to have at least one big hit off an album.
July 25, 201113 yr 10 8 15 Foo Fighters Wasting Light 12 9 36 Take That Progress 13 12 37 Cee Lo Green The Lady Killer 18 32 45 The Script Science & Faith 20 15 7 Arctic Monkeys Suck It And See 21 34 19 Elbow Build A Rocket Boys! 22 26 16 Katy B On A Mission 23 38 3 Selena Gomez & The Scene When The Sun Goes Down 25 25 20 Noah And The Whale Last Night On Earth 31 42 38 Rumer Seasons Of My Soul 32 27 67 Plan B The Defamation Of Strickland Banks 35 35 94 Mumford & Sons Sigh No More 36 29 6 Bad Meets Evil Hell - The Sequel 37 N 1 Kylie Minogue The Albums 2000-2010 All the above have had a top 40 before though (Selena and Elbow not on this album), so some of them are showing longevity. I don't really understand how so many people buy (for example) Caro Emerald's album, but A Night Like This only gets top 75 and That Man only gets to 80something. I understand the R2 audience are more album buyers, I guess I'm just being hopeful she'll get a top 40 hit!
July 25, 201113 yr It depends on a lot of things. Most of all, it's something to do with different music genres and the culture that supports it. From long ago, guitar music fans have been known to value the album more, whereas dance music is more of a singles culture. Of course, these things aren't always black and white and you'll occasionally get your David Guetta, Prodigy, Chemical Brothers or Basement Jaxx, who manage to sell both singles and albums. And as someone pointed out, most of the acts who are selling albums consistently but not singles these days are already established ones. They already have a strong and usually reliable fanbase to build upon, so they don't really need the hit singles anymore. Oh, and Liam, you forgot to put The Vaccines on your list, as they DID have a Top 40 hit with "Post Break-Up Sex" (#32). ;)
July 25, 201113 yr In a word - demographics. Album buyers tend to be significantly older, on average, than singles buyers, so their musical tastes tend to be more conservative.
July 25, 201113 yr Oh, and Liam, you forgot to put The Vaccines on your list, as they DID have a Top 40 hit with "Post Break-Up Sex" (#32). ;) Ah, so they did. I couldn't remember if it had got there or not, and couldn't be bothered to google it :lol:
July 25, 201113 yr Yes, demographics also play a part. But don't underestimate the buying habits of each musical culture, though, vidcapper. ;)
July 25, 201113 yr Yes, demographics also play a part. But don't underestimate the buying habits of each musical culture, though, vidcapper. ;) I bet you understand it better than record company bosses do, though! :P
July 25, 201113 yr Is this not an odd week to make this thread? I'd have thought it were even less in recent weeks? Only three weeks ago there was: Caro Emerald Biffy Clyro Kaiser Chiefs Stevie Nicks Bon Iver Gillian Welch Paul Simon Limp Bizkit Elbow Seasick Steve Two Door Cinema Club The Pierces That's four more albums that haven't contained a top 40 hit than this week, 3 if you include the Kylie collection.
July 25, 201113 yr Author Is this not an odd week to make this thread? I'd have thought it were even less in recent weeks? Only three weeks ago there was: Caro Emerald Biffy Clyro Kaiser Chiefs Stevie Nicks Bon Iver Gillian Welch Paul Simon Limp Bizkit Elbow Seasick Steve Two Door Cinema Club The Pierces That's four more albums that haven't contained a top 40 hit than this week, 3 if you include the Kylie collection. It may be an odd week to make the thread, but I thought it needed to be made anyway even if the situation is 'improving' (I say that as if it's a bad thing but it's not really :P) I suppose demographics probably do make most of the difference. But how long has it been like this? I'm sure the artists in the two charts were generally far more similar not *that* long ago. Ah, so they did. I couldn't remember if it had got there or not, and couldn't be bothered to google it :lol: Bon Iver also got a top 40 hit before - 'Blood Bank' got #37 in 2009. :P As did The Horrors - 'Gloves' #34 in 2007. And Andrea Bocelli had a #2 hit in 1997 and another top 30 hit in 1999 :kink: Edited July 25, 201113 yr by Bré
July 25, 201113 yr Yes it's mainly demographics- When supermarkets started selling albums back in the late 90s it started as people who had really ventured into a "record shop" for years were suddenly buying albums again with their weekly shop.If you compare the top 100 best selling albums of the 80s/90s with the current one for the 00's (shameless plug) you'll see that the 00's is when the difference really started....the need for a massive lead off hit single just wasn't that necessary anymore
July 25, 201113 yr Yes it's mainly demographics- When supermarkets started selling albums back in the late 90s it started as people who had really ventured into a "record shop" for years were suddenly buying albums again with their weekly shop.If you compare the top 100 best selling albums of the 80s/90s with the current one for the 00's (shameless plug) you'll see that the 00's is when the difference really started....the need for a massive lead off hit single just wasn't that necessary anymore Well, I remember big-box stores (or hypermarkets) already selling music in the late 80's and throughout the decade here in PT. Some of them still do, although with less and less shelf space.
July 25, 201113 yr Bon Iver also got a top 40 hit before - 'Blood Bank' got #37 in 2009. :P As did The Horrors - 'Gloves' #34 in 2007. And Andrea Bocelli had a #2 hit in 1997 and another top 30 hit in 1999 :kink: I remember than Bon Iver track, don't recall The Horrors though. I remember Andrea Bocelli's hit too, I should've put them on but slipped my mind and I couldn't be bothered to Google. They're sort of invalid anyway, as are When The Sun Goes Down and Build A Rocket Boys as they've not acheived a top 40 single off this album, nor have Andrea, The Horrors or Bon Iver :P the point I made was most of the albums have had big hits from them, just none of them are in the top 40 currently so they're just showing longevity.
July 25, 201113 yr Author I remember than Bon Iver track, don't recall The Horrors though. I remember Andrea Bocelli's hit too, I should've put them on but slipped my mind and I couldn't be bothered to Google. They're sort of invalid anyway, as are When The Sun Goes Down and Build A Rocket Boys as they've not acheived a top 40 single off this album, nor have Andrea, The Horrors or Bon Iver :P the point I made was most of the albums have had big hits from them, just none of them are in the top 40 currently so they're just showing longevity. Technically Andrea has as both of his top 40 hits are on 'The Best Of - Vivere' :kink:
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