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Pixie was played at the end of CBB in full so that could rise again.

 

Yes, it is rising again.

0.909286 atm.

Well, Cry Me Out had a lot of longevity.

 

The problem with Pixie's song is that it's just SO generic. Another electropop song? Like really?

 

Ah, but I *like* electro-pop. :)

 

Can you imagine the reaction if I said 'another rap song, that's just so generic'...

 

Actually, I don't have to imagine - I have said that, and I have the bitten-off head to prove it. :P

I think it was a promo single for her album but I'm pretty sure it didn't reach #1. Still, falling that far is awful!

Taylor Swift is absolutely horrendous in general though, so glad I'm not American because it's bad enough with the (limited) exposure she gets here!

 

I :wub: Taylor Swift - she makes just the kind of music I like to listen to - gentle upbeat ballads, lacking the negative emotions that irritate me about a certain other genre...

You've clearly never heard any Blake Shelton.

 

Ah, but I *like* electro-pop. :)

 

Can you imagine the reaction if I said 'another rap song, that's just so generic'...

 

Actually, I don't have to imagine - I have said that, and I have the bitten-off head to prove it. :P

 

I like Electropop too, but Pixie's song is generic as f***... Would much rather have Maroon 5 at #1 this week, or eiven the Sats :kink:

Ah, but I *like* electro-pop. :)

 

Can you imagine the reaction if I said 'another rap song, that's just so generic'...

 

Actually, I don't have to imagine - I have said that, and I have the bitten-off head to prove it. :P

 

Well, rap songs can be generic (e.g. Give Me Everything, Party Rock Anthem), but I don't think all of them are. Rap is just a type of vocals, but whether a song is generic or not depends on its instrumental.

 

About positive emotions, I think a lot of rap songs do have them (e.g. Give Me Everything, Party Rock Anthem). There's been very, very few depressing songs in the chart this year (well, it's difficult to make a depressing song about partying I guess...), rap or not.

About positive emotions, I think a lot of rap songs do have them (e.g. Give Me Everything, Party Rock Anthem). There's been very, very few depressing songs in the chart this year (well, it's difficult to make a depressing song about partying I guess...), rap or not.

 

I don't know about that - I *hate* parties, I always have!

Can you seriously not go without mentioning your dislike for a style of vocals (at least use the correct genre term of hip-hop ONCE in a while) for just a few posts? Jesus christ.
Can you seriously not go without mentioning your dislike for a style of vocals (at least use the correct genre term of hip-hop ONCE in a while) for just a few posts? Jesus christ.

 

Thank you for just proving the point I was making - that some fans of rap consider their genre above criticism, and that I get my head bitten off for daring to speak a word against it.

 

Also, in case you haven't noticed, the overwhelming majority of my posts are about YTD sales.

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^ It's indeed true that a lot of the biggest hits of this year are on air, on sale. Looking at the 10 biggest songs of the year:

That makes sense, if its not available when people first want it they will probably download it illegally therefore negatively effecting sales.

That makes sense, if its not available when people first want it they will probably download it illegally therefore negatively effecting sales.

 

I wonder what the ratio of legal to illegal downloads actually is?

 

Do you think that the problem is worse for new releases, than for oldies?

I'd imagine so. The reason I liked On Air, On Sale is that it makes me actually buy more. For example I bought the recent Coldplay and Bombay Bicycle Club songs because they were released OA/OS, and it was going to be ages before the album came out, but I haven't bothered buying Example's new song because I'd be buying the album anyway, and I'm not paying for something I'll buy again one week later. Had it been released 8 weeks ago I'm pretty certain I'd have paid for it. I have noticed that in the first few months of the year my legal purchases did rise, but it's gone way down again now.

I think the iTunes top 10 effect is so critical to a songs success. With OAOS a song is released while people have barely heard it. This means it will struggle to make the top ten resulting in lost sales of all the Casual buyers that won't notice it..

 

I think it is safe enough for huge Artists and bands but not so much for the rest.

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The thing with OA/OS is it's the best strategy providing every song is released that way. Earlier in the year there was only one song in the top 10 which had been held back (On The Floor) because OA/OS had become quite prominent and there weren't many acts holding back releases. But since June when Calvin/Example/Tinchy all released has there even been any high profile OA/OS releases? Little Bad Girl and Every Teardrop Is A Waterfall are the only ones I think? And then Coldplay's new one next week.

 

You say it's safe for big acts, the most successful OA/OS release this year is from LMFAO. They aren't huge at all, it was just released with the perfect strategy, get it to radio and TV when it's released, it gets played a lot and people buy it. It really is quite simple but it seems to get completely messed up most of the time, The Saturdays and Britney Spears especially. It's like the management teams and record companies had no idea how to use it, did it COMPLETELY wrong and have now decided it's crap.

I don't see how some people here believe Taylor Swift is the worst thing in the US charts :lol:

 

The truth is that she is an album seller. Her singles do not have a great chart run even though her album sales are enormous during the last few years. Outside America and Australia her singles have not been succesfull (if we count out Love story and perhaps You Belong With Me). But country music is not popular outside America and is UNpopular in the UK. Remember the low UK peak of Hey Soul Sister? It was a worldwide hit (also as far as radio and tv play are comcerned) but the UK wouldn't fall for it. Fireflies was a 'similar' case imo but mainly because of the electro-pop genre it was huge here as well.

Thank you for just proving the point I was making - that some fans of rap consider their genre above criticism, and that I get my head bitten off for daring to speak a word against it.

 

Also, in case you haven't noticed, the overwhelming majority of my posts are about YTD sales.

 

And you've done it again, rap is not a genre of music. Rap is the style of vocals that are most prominent in the genre of hip-hop. This year in particular rapping has branched out into other genres (electropop being the main example) so a song can contain rapping without being hip-hop (Party Rock Anthem, for instance). Your dislike of the "genre of rap" is therefore utter bollocks, if you simply said "I don't like rapping as a vocal style and tend to avoid it if I can" and didn't manage to fit it into a large number of your posts people may not consider you a narrow-minded prick.

Foo Fighters :up: to 58. Top 40 would be wonderful, apparently the physical came out on Monday though so I'm not hopeful as it can't be long until Radio 1 drop it. Even a live video would probably boost it enough.
And you've done it again, rap is not a genre of music. Rap is the style of vocals that are most prominent in the genre of hip-hop. This year in particular rapping has branched out into other genres (electropop being the main example) so a song can contain rapping without being hip-hop (Party Rock Anthem, for instance). Your dislike of the "genre of rap" is therefore utter bollocks, if you simply said "I don't like rapping as a vocal style and tend to avoid it if I can" and didn't manage to fit it into a large number of your posts people may not consider you a narrow-minded prick.

 

I see you have a shield quoting a Latin phrase in your sig, so perhaps you are familiar with the term 'ad hominem' attack?

 

As for your comment itself, you can take it as read that whenever I say 'rap', I mean the whole hop-hop genre, and any genre it has leaked out into.

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I see you have a shield quoting a Latin phrase in your sig, so perhaps you are familiar with the term 'ad hominem' attack?

 

As for your comment itself, you can take it as read that whenever I say 'rap', I mean the whole hop-hop genre, and any genre it has leaked out into.

 

I considered your point against me pretty inane so didn't really see any point in countering it per se. I'm actually trying to help you believe it or not, you're not exactly helping yourself by speaking of hIp-hop/rap like it's some form of fungus.

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