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Well, I didn't see Johnny Cash being dragged out to a 15 million-strong audience last night. Half the people watching probably don't even know it's a cover.

 

That would be awkward :angel:

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iTunes Update

 

[02] 01| Coldplay - Paradise

[03] 02| Olly Murs - Dance With Me Tonight

[01] 03| T-Pain ft. Wiz Khalifa & Lily Allen - 5 O'Clock

[**] 04| Leona Lewis - Hurt

[06] 05| Rihanna ft. Calvin Harris - We Found Love

[07] 06| Mariah Carey - All I Want For Christmas Is You

[05] 07| Avicii - Levels

[04] 08| Lloyd - Dedication To My Ex (Miss That)

[08] 09| Ed Sheeran - Lego House

[09] 10| Drake ft. Rihanna - Take Care

 

[51] 11| Flo Rida - Good Feeling

[10] 12| Jessie J - Who You Are

[11] 13| Labrinth - Earthquake

[12] 14| LMFAO - Sexy And I Know It

[16] 15| Wizzard - I Wish It Could Be Christmas Everyday

[17] 16| Wham! - Last Christmas

[22] 17| Maroon 5 ft. Christina Aguilera - Moves Like Jagger

[14] 18| Kelly Rowland - Down For Whatever

[15] 19| Beyoncé - Love On Top

[13] 20| Jason DeRulo - Fight For You

 

[28] 21| Justin Bieber - Mistletoe

[20] 22| Slade - Merry Christmas Everybody

[18] 23| Lady GaGa - Marry The Night

[23] 24| Katy Perry - The One That Got Away

[19] 25| X Factor Finalists 2011- Wishing On A Star

[24] 26| Bruno Mars - It Will Rain

[21] 27| Amy Winehouse - Our Day Will Come

[26] 28| Rebecca Ferguson - Nothing's Real But Love

[27] 29| The Pogues & Kirsty MacColl - Fairytale Of New York

[29] 30| Shakin' Stevens - Merry Christmas Everyone

 

[36] 31| Rizzle Kicks - Mama Do The Hump

[41] 32| One Direction - What Makes You Beautiful

[35] 33| The Pogues & Kirsty MacColl - Fairytale Of New York

[25] 34| Lloyd - Dediction To My Ex (Miss That)

[32] 35| Charlene Soraia - Wherever You Will Go

[34] 36| JLS - Do You Feel What I Feel?

[33] 37| Example - Midnight Run

[39] 38| Christina Perri - Jar Of Hearts

[38] 39| Band Aid - Do They Know It's Christmas?

[30] 40| Sway - Still Speedin'

 

Selected Others

 

[49] 64| Rihanna - You Da One

[70] 94| Jay-Z & Kanye West ft. Mr Hudson - Why I Love You

 

[097] 117| The Wanted - Warzone

[***] 174| Wretch 32 - Forgiveness

[145] 191| Nero - Reaching Out

[264] 197| Wretch 32 ft. Etta Bond - Forgiveness

 

[***] 209| Leona Lewis - Iris

[218] 224| Professor Green - Never Be A Right Time

[284] 231| Wiley - Boom Blast

[***] 260| The Saw Doctors - Downtown

[***] 262| Doctor P & Flux Pavilion - Superbad

Xmas update (since 4:57pm on Friday)

 

:up: [11] 6. All I Want for Christmas Is You - Mariah Carey

:up: [16] 15. I Wish It Could Be Christmas Everyday - Wizzard

:up: [19] 16. Last Christmas (Single Version) - Wham!

:up: [27] 21. Mistletoe - Justin Bieber

:left: [22] 22. Merry Christmas Everybody - Slade

:up: [30] 29. Fairytale of New York - The Pogues & Kirsty MacColl

:up: [32] 30. Merry Christmas Everyone - Shakin' Stevens

:up: [36] 33. Fairytale of New York - Kirsty MacColl & The Pogues

:down: [38] 39. Do They Know It's Christmas? - Band Aid

:up: [46] 45. Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree - Brenda Lee

:up: [57] 48. Let It Snow! Let It Snow! Let It Snow! - Dean Martin

:up: [55] 49. Do They Know It's Christmas? - Band Aid

:left: [50] 50. Wonderful Christmastime - Paul McCartney

:up: [220] 52. Christmas (Baby Please Come Home) - Michael Bublé

:up: [58] 56. Christmas Lights - Coldplay

:down: [60] 61. Driving Home for Christmas - Chris Rea

:up: [77] 67. Santa Claus Is Coming to Town - Michael Bublé

:left: [68] 68. It's Beginning to Look a Lot Like Christmas - Michael Bublé

:up: [72] 71. Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas - Frank Sinatra

:down: [71] 72. Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas - Michael Bublé

:down: [43] 74. All I Want for Christmas Is You (Original Version) - Mariah Carey

:down: [73] 76. Santa Baby - Kylie Minogue

:up: [92] 82. Happy Xmas (War Is Over) [2003 Mix] - John Lennon, The Harlem Community Choir, Yoko Ono & The Plastic Ono Band

:up: [102] 89. Santa Claus Is Coming to Town - The Supremes

:up: [104] 92. Step Into Christmas - Elton John

:up: [101] 93. Mistletoe and Wine - Cliff Richard

:up: [105] 100. Walking In the Air - Aled Jones

 

:down: [83] 106. Step Into Christmas (Radio Mix) - Elton John

:up: [132] 107. Baby, It's Cold Outside - Dean Martin

:up: [113] 108. Mary's Boy Child / Oh My Lord - Boney M.

:up: [128] 111. Christmas Wrapping - The Waitresses

:down: [107] 113. White Christmas - Bing Crosby

:up: [117] 116. It's the Most Wonderful Time of the Year - Andy Williams

:down: [110] 118. White Christmas (Duet With Shania Twain) - Michael Bublé

:down: [108] 122. Lonely This Christmas - Mud

:up: [155] 125. Stop the Cavalry - Jona Lewie

:down: [124] 126. Baby, It's Cold Outside - Tom Jones & Cerys Matthews

:down: [126] 127. Stay Another Day - East 17

:down: [122] 130. The Christmas Song (Merry Christmas to You) - The Nat "King" Cole Trio

:up: [136] 131. In Dulci Jubilo - Mike Oldfield

:up: [141] 134. Warm This Winter - Gabriella Cilmi

:down: [121] 136. All I Want for Christmas Is You - Michael Bublé

:up: [149] 140. I Believe In Father Christmas - Greg Lake

:down: [131] 141. Do They Know It's Christmas? - Band Aid 20

:up: [146] 144. Proper Crimbo (Single Version) - Bo Selecta

:down: [127] 149. Fairytale of New York - The Pogues & Kirsty MacColl

:up: [154] 150. Christmas Time (Don't Let the Bells End) - The Darkness

:down: [137] 151. All I Want for Christmas - Samantha Mumba

:down: [82] 152. Dominick the Italian Christmas Donkey - Lou Monte

:up: [164] 157. When a Child Is Born - Johnny Mathis

:up: [199] 159. Frosty the Snowman - Michael Jackson & The Jackson 5

:up: [189] 160. A Winter's Tale - David Essex

:down: [161] 171. Fairytale of New York (feat. Maire Brennan) - Ronan Keating

:up: [197] 178. Rudolph, the Red-Nosed Reindeer - Dean Martin

:up: [185] 181. All I Want for Christmas Is You (Superfestive!) [Duet With Mariah Carey] - Justin Bieber & Mariah Carey

:down: [177] 184. White Christmas - Bing Crosby

:up: [200] 193. Jingle Bell Rock - Bobby Helms

:up: [216] 198. A Spaceman Came Travelling - Chris de Burgh

:up: [231] 200. Little Saint Nick - The Beach Boys

 

:up: [240] 215. Silent Night - Sinéad O'Connor

:up: [291] 221. Last Christmas (Single Version) - Wham!

:up: [238] 229. Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer - Burl Ives

:ne: [***] 237. Santa Claus Is Comin' to Town (Single Version) - Bruce Springsteen

:re: [RE] 238. Carol of the Bells - John Williams

:down: [241] 245. Saviour's Day - Cliff Richard

:up: [269] 246. Let It Snow! Let It Snow! Let It Snow! - Frank Sinatra

:down: [235] 252. Santa Baby - Michael Bublé

:down: [217] 253. Santa Claus Is Comin' to Town - Frank Sinatra & Axel Stordahl

:ne: [***] 254. Christmas Love - Justin Bieber

:down: [211] 257. The Cowboys' Christmas Ball - The Killers

:down: [263] 270. Jingle Bells (feat. The Puppini Sisters) - Michael Bublé

:ne: [***] 276. Deck The Halls - Nat "King" Cole

:ne: [***] 277. Santa Baby (Remastered) - Eartha Kitt & Henri René

:down: [264] 280. A Spaceman Came Travelling - Chris de Burgh

:down: [249] 282. I Wish It Could Be Christmas Everyday - Girls Aloud

:ne: [***] 298. Winter Wonderland - Tony Bennett

 

:down: [204] xxx. Fairytale of New York - Christmas Hits

:down: [218] xxx. Dominic The Donkey - The Hit Nation

:down: [257] xxx. I Believe In Father Christmas - Greg Lake

:down: [283] xxx. Cold December Night - Michael Bublé

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Still, if Leona's vocal performance wasn't good enough, people wouldn't have tracked down her version on iTunes.

 

You only need a small percentage of the viewership doing that to get to the top of itunes. Remember, 14 million watch X Factor, you can get a number one single with 100,000 sales and Leona won't even get that.

 

The hype around her performance seems widely negative if people know the song she's singing. I guess Cash is a song ruiner, none can really compare. :wub:

Glee gets a tiny audience in the UK, XFactor as a massive audience you cant compare them.

 

I know she struggles selling original songs but does have to sing so many covers :huh: It will be interesting to see how she does when she releases her own material and without the xfactor behind her...or will SC be putting her on BGT.

 

A 'tiny audience' that has got far less popular songs than Bohemian Rhapsody into the top 40.

Surprised 'Hurt' is doing that well - I wasn't actually that keen on the performance, mainly due to the fact that everything she said, I couldn't understand.

 

The girl seriously needs to work on her diction, but she hasn't half got some pipes on her.

Sales aren't THAT low. No one remember 2004?!

But you can't really compare the two though, sales are low now in comparison to now. I think whoever is number one today will be definitely in the 5 lowest no. 1s of the year.

Lets be real here, she just performed on the X factor final, the song isn't already out on an album ect, so all of its sales are hugely front loaded. The fact that she is 'only' #4 when sales are so low right now is not 'smashing'

 

That's not "being real", that's being completely one-sided.

 

Let's look at the other side, shall we:

 

One single performance boosted her up to #4 on iTunes. Rebecca Ferguson couldn't manage that IIRC with her debut single NRBL which had, at the very least, a music video and some form of radio play. Leona doesn't have a music video, or any airplay and is selling this song on just one great performance. I don't see Michael Buble's song in the top 10 or even top 40?

Sales aren't THAT low. No one remember 2004?!

 

Nero got to number one on under 50,000. Only 10 weeks this year have had sales of a number 1 over 100,000. :(

 

Pop music was dead in 2004 and stayed that way until 2007. 2004 was the year I migrated to MTV2 and learned the greatness of Rock/Indie. :w00t:

 

That's not "being real", that's being completely one-sided.

 

Let's look at the other side, shall we:

 

One single performance boosted her up to #4 on iTunes. Rebecca Ferguson couldn't manage that IIRC with her debut single NRBL which had, at the very least, a music video and some form of radio play. Leona doesn't have a music video, or any airplay and is selling this song on just one great performance. I don't see Michael Buble's song in the top 10 or even top 40?

 

Buble is not looking for a singles success, he wants sales for his Christmas album which are great (comparative to the yearly sales average).

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You only need a small percentage of the viewership doing that to get to the top of itunes. Remember, 14 million watch X Factor, you can get a number one single with 100,000 sales and Leona won't even get that.

 

The hype around her performance seems widely negative if people know the song she's singing. I guess Cash is a song ruiner, none can really compare. :wub:

That's a ridiculous argument.

 

The X Factor final had an audience of 14 million, compare that to most of the current top 10 who have a radio audience of up to 5 times that in any chart week. That also applies to new releases who can have in excess of an audience of 100 million by the time their song is released.

Buble is not looking for a singles success, he wants sales for his Christmas album which are great (comparative to the yearly sales average).

 

And the relevance of that is...?

 

At the end of the day, he performed on the same show as Leona and, regardless of whether he wants to sell more albums than singles, his song in particular hasn't been as popular as Leona's. You could argue that Leona wasn't "looking for single success" either. After all, she hasn't sent 'Hurt' to radio or released a music video of it.

That's a ridiculous argument.

 

The X Factor final had an audience of 14 million, compare that to most of the current top 10 who have a radio audience of up to 5 times that in any chart week. That also applies to new releases who can have in excess of an audience of 100 million by the time their song is released.

 

That radio argument is rather daft, even of there are 70 miillion "listens" to a track a huge number of them will be the same people over and over again. Not so with the 14 million X-Factor final audience

 

That's a ridiculous argument.

 

The X Factor final had an audience of 14 million, compare that to most of the current top 10 who have a radio audience of up to 5 times that in any chart week. That also applies to new releases who can have in excess of an audience of 100 million by the time their song is released.

 

Also, the XF final didn't get 14 million viewers (which was clearly a guess just to help prove someone's point). It averaged 10.5 million and reached a peak of just over 12 million.

And the relevance of that is...?

 

At the end of the day, he performed on the same show as Leona and, regardless of whether he wants to sell more albums than singles, his song in particular hasn't been as popular as Leona's. You could argue that Leona wasn't "looking for single success" either. After all, she hasn't sent 'Hurt' to radio or released a music video of it.

 

The relevance is that Michael Buble was promoting his seasonal album which is currently the 7th best selling of the year. People who like his track are less likely to buy the single and more likely to buy the album, especially physical albums as gifts going into the last two shopping weeks.

 

Michael Buble isn't a singles artist so its wrong to compare the two.

And the relevance of that is...?

 

At the end of the day, he performed on the same show as Leona and, regardless of whether he wants to sell more albums than singles, his song in particular hasn't been as popular as Leona's. You could argue that Leona wasn't "looking for single success" either. After all, she hasn't sent 'Hurt' to radio or released a music video of it.

 

But it doesn't have a parent album that she can flog, so anyone who's interested might spend 99p on the song. Bublé is asking people to shell out the best part of a tenner for an album, so there's bound to be a smaller boost for him.

Also, the XF final didn't get 14 million viewers (which was clearly a guess just to help prove someone's point). It averaged 10.5 million and reached a peak of just over 12 million.

 

Repeats, ITV Player, timeshift = Average 14 million.

 

You are using overnights. Also, Sunday shows average 14 million showing that people do indeed catch up in various ways.

 

But it doesn't have a parent album that she can flog, so anyone who's interested might spend 99p on the song. Bublé is asking people to shell out the best part of a tenner for an album, so there's bound to be a smaller boost for him.

 

His audience is also more mature and more likely to want physicals rather than downloads which skew younger. The itunes singles chart isn't everything is the main point.

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Well, I didn't see Johnny Cash being dragged out to a 15 million-strong audience last night. Half the people watching probably don't even know it's a cover.

 

Half of it's target audience would not know who Johnny Cash was.

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