As we are aware, the chart on the OCC singles site goes up to 100, some sites 75 and the official industry chart is 200.

 

What would you could a non charter? Below 75, 100 or 200?

 

Personally, anything below 200 is a non-charter as they've had not had an official placing. Have we any examples of acts hitting a position below 200?

Hit Singles only acknowledges singles that made the top 75 so being at number 76 will never published as being a "hit".

At the moment, below top 100. I consider anything in my chart spreadsheet to be a 'hit' to some extent and my spreadsheet covers the whole top 100 since the OCC started posting it on their website in mid-2007.

I say below top 200 is a 'non-charter', because my eyes the logic is that if you can give a number for it then it has charted :P

 

On Wikipedia, it says So Do I Say Sorry First by Stephanie McIntosh peaked at 258, but this is Wikipedia so it's totally unreliable :P Might have been the iTunes peak or something.

I say below top 200 is a 'non-charter', because my eyes the logic is that if you can give a number for it then it has charted :P

 

On Wikipedia, it says So Do I Say Sorry First by Stephanie McIntosh peaked at 258, but this is Wikipedia so it's totally unreliable :P Might have been the iTunes peak or something.

 

 

Agreed Liam. As long as it made it, thats what matters.

 

I think with that position, it could have just been magiced or an I-Tunes position :D

I say below top 200 is a 'non-charter', because my eyes the logic is that if you can give a number for it then it has charted :P

 

Same. If it has a number, it charted!

Apparently Kiss That Grrrl by Kate Nash was about 21 copies short of the Top 200, so that basically gave it a position of 201. :P

 

But I count anything outside the Top 200 as a non charter.

Apparently Kiss That Grrrl by Kate Nash was about 21 copies short of the Top 200, so that basically gave it a position of 201. :P

 

But I count anything outside the Top 200 as a non charter.

 

 

Knew I should have mass downloaded that week :cheer:

Personally, anything below 200 is a non-charter as they've had not had an official placing. Have we any examples of acts hitting a position below 200?

This is the albums chart, but when Melanie B's L.A. State of Mind missed the top 200, Music Week mentioned its position as 453 in the sales report.

 

Here's the report - it's in the last paragraph: http://www.musicweek.com/story.asp?section...storycode=14375

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I was going to mention the Kate Nash example - which at #201 makes it difficult not to say "It didn't chart", because technically it did - just that access for anything below #200 isn't made readily available for the public.

 

In my eyes, anything below #200 hasn't charted - even the OCC count entries from below 200 into the top 100 as a 'new entry'.

Is there a way to obtain info below 200?

 

I knew about the Mel B one.....that was LOLtastic. I guess she bought 150 copies B-)

76 and below is a non charting single for me.

We could always go as far as the OCC database can place singles and albums, which is position 10,000! Below number 10,000 the OCC computer isn't able to allocate any product a position.

 

I wish I had access to the OCC database, I'd love to know what was number 10,000 each and every week... and how much each had sold.

I say below top 200 is a 'non-charter', because my eyes the logic is that if you can give a number for it then it has charted :P

 

On Wikipedia, it says So Do I Say Sorry First by Stephanie McIntosh peaked at 258, but this is Wikipedia so it's totally unreliable :P Might have been the iTunes peak or something.

 

Number 258 LMAO!!!

As we are aware, the chart on the OCC singles site goes up to 100, some sites 75 and the official industry chart is 200.

 

What would you could a non charter? Below 75, 100 or 200?

 

Personally, anything below 200 is a non-charter as they've had not had an official placing. Have we any examples of acts hitting a position below 200?

 

I would say anything below #100 doesn't count as a hit, because that's the lowest position free to access by everyone.

 

Apparently Kiss That Grrrl by Kate Nash was about 21 copies short of the Top 200, so that basically gave it a position of 201. :P

 

Generally speaking, the average sales difference between songs around #200 is just 5 copies, and ties are frequent, albeit resolved by some means that is unclear.

 

It's usually possible to tell which songs are *just* outside the official top 200 though, as they will just scrape into the Download top 200. e.g. this week Otis was #199 on downloads, but didn't make the overall T200.

 

We could always go as far as the OCC database can place singles and albums, which is position 10,000! Below number 10,000 the OCC computer isn't able to allocate any product a position.

 

I wish I had access to the OCC database, I'd love to know what was number 10,000 each and every week... and how much each had sold.

 

me2! :lol:

We could always go as far as the OCC database can place singles and albums, which is position 10,000! Below number 10,000 the OCC computer isn't able to allocate any product a position.

 

I wish I had access to the OCC database, I'd love to know what was number 10,000 each and every week... and how much each had sold.

In theory the chart could go down low enough to reflect all the tracks that are available to download and there must be several million of them. But in practice most of these won't be downloaded at all in any given week so you'd be looking at the number of tracks that have sold at least one copy. I'd guess that might well be around no.10,000.

In theory the chart could go down low enough to reflect all the tracks that are available to download and there must be several million of them. But in practice most of these won't be downloaded at all in any given week so you'd be looking at the number of tracks that have sold at least one copy. I'd guess that might well be around no.10,000.

 

I heard several years ago that something like 1/4 million tracks sold at least one copy each week, so that figure must be significantly higher now.

Down to 10,0000???

 

I am sure Frixion (Crap boyband) reguarly visit the 8000-9500 region :D

There used to be a Top 250 in 2004/5 I think, but today, I class a song that doesn't reach the Top 200 a non-charter

There used to be a Top 250 in 2004/5 I think, but today, I class a song that doesn't reach the Top 200 a non-charter

 

 

I remember obtaining some information from that era about a song....."I want to give you one for Christmas" by Hotpantz made #224 (or something) LOL....one year after making the mid 60s!