I never liked Baby One More Time but I will always be proud to love Everytime and Stronger. I dont generally feel guilty when it comes to pop music. I would feel more guilt in liking a song from Nickeback or The Script.

Nickelback I agree with but there's nothing wrong with liking The Script IMO! 'The Man Who Can't Be Moved' is brilliant and they have a few other good songs too.

 

I don't like '...Baby One More Time' at all but I do love 'Toxic' and 'Womanizer' (sic).

Script = Westlife with a worse singer :lol:

Script = Westlife with a worse singer :lol:

 

Don't The Script write and produce their own material? And play instruments? Don't see the Westlife comparison at all.

 

I like 'Call Me Maybe' but baffled at how well it's doing. It's so basic. If Miley Cyrus couldn't break the top ten with See You Again, The Climb or Party In The USA (which were all much better pop songs) then I don't see why this should sell a MILLION copies.

Writing your own songs is not a reason for being credible.

Writing your own songs is not a reason for being credible.

 

So what is a reason for being credible if writing your OWN material isn't?

So what is a reason for being credible if writing your OWN material isn't?

 

 

Creating interesting music - that's why certain manufactured music is credible (Girls Aloud, Sugababes, certain Britney and Gaga tracks). Whereas Nickelback and The Sript (just to pick bands that I despise) write their own songs and make dreary, derivative and generally boring, generic music.

 

This of course, is all my own opinion.

Oddly, for now at least I wouldn't mind listening to "Call Me Maybe" quite loudly. For those who were around 18-20 in '99, was it the same with the Britney song?

 

Actually, that is a VERY good question.

 

I've always wondered this. Back then I used to hear so many "teen-pop" songs similar to Call Me Maybe on the radio. I've always wondered what people over the age of, like 11, thought of all that. :lol:

 

On another note, people will probably mock me, but does anyone think the instrumental to Call Me Maybe is a lot like In Da Club? Like it's bursts of strings with a few bars-worth of percussion in between all the way through, both insanely catchy.

 

Creating interesting music - that's why certain manufactured music is credible (Girls Aloud, Sugababes, certain Britney and Gaga tracks). Whereas Nickelback and The Sript (just to pick bands that I despise) write their own songs and make dreary, derivative and generally boring, generic music.

 

This of course, is all my own opinion.

 

I agree with this. I can appreciate some artists are very talented, but they still need to release songs that I like for me to "like" them, if that makes sense. And on the converse, I've never really had a problem with liking songs by rather talentless artists. The people that make those songs behind the scenes are probably very talented anyway.

Edited April 30, 201213 yr by Eric_Blob

Don't The Script write and produce their own material? And play instruments? Don't see the Westlife comparison at all.

 

I like 'Call Me Maybe' but baffled at how well it's doing. It's so basic. If Miley Cyrus couldn't break the top ten with See You Again, The Climb or Party In The USA (which were all much better pop songs) then I don't see why this should sell a MILLION copies.

 

I'm not sure how any of those are a better pop song than "Call Me Maybe" when I don't remember how two of them go (and the third I only do because of the X Factor).

To be fair, Party in the USA was a MUCH bigger hit in the US than Call Me Maybe (so far). It spent like 6 weeks at #1 on iTunes. I think it would've gone top 10 in the UK with more promotion.

To be fair, Party in the USA was a MUCH bigger hit in the US than Call Me Maybe (so far). It spent like 6 weeks at #1 on iTunes. I think it would've gone top 10 in the UK with more promotion.

 

More promotion? You could hardly move for Miley Cyrus and/or Hannah Montana at the time

 

I'm not sure how any of those are a better pop song than "Call Me Maybe" when I don't remember how two of them go (and the third I only do because of the X Factor).

I can see kind of where the comparison is coming from, Party In The USA is an amazing (imo) pure pop song, but I do think Call Me Maybe has a much wider appeal and musically is a much better pop track I'd say. Less generic anyway, even if it's hardly revolutionary. I can see why it's doing so well, very inoffensive song which loads and loads of people seem to love. It's a bit baffling that it's on course to sell a million (and I do prefer Party In The USA, and the two other Miley songs Shadow listed for that matter) but I do really like it and I can see how it's getting success.

I can see kind of where the comparison is coming from, Party In The USA is an amazing (imo) pure pop song, but I do think Call Me Maybe has a much wider appeal and musically is a much better pop track I'd say. Less generic anyway, even if it's hardly revolutionary. I can see why it's doing so well, very inoffensive song which loads and loads of people seem to love. It's a bit baffling that it's on course to sell a million (and I do prefer Party In The USA, and the two other Miley songs Shadow listed for that matter) but I do really like it and I can see how it's getting success.

It's pleasant. It's decent enough. If pushed I might say it was 'quite good'. But are there that many people out there who really 'love' it, or just a whole load who like it enough to buy it? It just seems so 'ordinary' to me.

I do like the little twist at the end of the video though.....

Edited April 30, 201213 yr by Col1967

Creating interesting music - that's why certain manufactured music is credible (Girls Aloud, Sugababes, certain Britney and Gaga tracks). Whereas Nickelback and The Sript (just to pick bands that I despise) write their own songs and make dreary, derivative and generally boring, generic music.

 

This of course, is all my own opinion.

I can see what you mean, but at the same time while I think The Script are pretty generic their songs are very relate-able. That's why I like them. :) (And Danny O'Donoghue is sexy...)

I'm not sure if it will sell a million. Maybe around 800-900k. I think its sales will fall quite a bit over the next few weeks.

It's pleasant. It's decent enough. If pushed I might say it was 'quite good'. But are there that many people out there who really 'love' it, or just a whole load who like it enough to buy it? It just seems so 'ordinary' to me.

I do like the little twist at the end of the video though.....

Well across this forum (personal charts, Buzzjack Song Contest etc.) there are, and pretty much all my friends love it. Although you're right, I'm kind of just making generalisations based on a small sample of the population around me, I can't defiinitively say lots of people love it tbh.

 

 

And Danny O'Donoghue is sexy...)

OH GOD YES. Second only to Olly Murs for me in my list of hawt men :kink: (off topic but I have to be a whore whenever hotness of someone hot is mentioned).

For those who were around 18-20 in '99, was it the same with the Britney song?

 

Well I was 18 in 1999 when 'Baby One More Time' smashed but there were two things going for it - the song itself is excellent pop music that even the indie snobs of 1999 even admitted was a "very good" song. It also had the music video which is how I became aware of the song.

 

First time I ever saw the video, I only caught the last 40 seconds of the video on MTV (in the school hall with the basketball players before ending with a daydreaming shot of Britney at her desk) and after it finished, I was left thinking "what is this?" with an odd smile on my face. :lol: I bought the song on CD single the week it was released.

Another thought is that single sales are so much better now than they were 5 years ago. If 'Call Me Maybe' had been released in 2007, it might've been another 'Umbrella' with up to 5 (or maybe more?) weeks at no. 1 but just selling around 600k in total.

 

iTunes is increasingly becoming more and more popular, and this is seen in the big sales of individual tracks (have to emphasise this point as cherry picking from albums is increasing hence the overall album sales decreasing so badly).

Just having gone on my Facebook, reading the feed, I've seen quite a few comments about Carly Rae Jepsen. Also Conor Maynard, Justin Bieber too. It seems for some people, liking these "teen" pop songs is the new cool thing to do at the moment. :drama:

 

I mean, I like all three of those songs too, but I like them because I find them catchy, and I generally wouldn't boast about liking them on Facebook for everybody to see. :lol: But evidently I can now without losing any street cred! :cheer:

Another thought is that single sales are so much better now than they were 5 years ago. If 'Call Me Maybe' had been released in 2007, it might've been another 'Umbrella' with up to 5 (or maybe more?) weeks at no. 1 but just selling around 600k in total.

 

iTunes is increasingly becoming more and more popular, and this is seen in the big sales of individual tracks (have to emphasise this point as cherry picking from albums is increasing hence the overall album sales decreasing so badly).

 

The "Call Me Maybe" and "Umbrella" comparisons are incredibly apt I think, both have become completely ubiquitous during their respective stints in the charts and I could see the latter clearing well over a million were it to be released now.

 

Question - as Gotye looks likely to drop out of the top 10 before he clears a million (as Maroon 5 did last year), could Carly become the first artist in aeons (Alexandra probably did this, and Gareth Gates otherwise) to sell a million copies before it leaves the top 10? Or even sell a million while in the top 10?