I am pretty sure they did actually, it just did nothing.

 

Usually with re-releases there's a new remix of a song, or a new music video, or something like that, and Radio 1 playlists it (and I'm sure they would with Ellie Goulding), but instead stations in the UK were playing Anything Can Happen after Lights smashed in the US.

 

Nonetheless, the success of Lights shows that there are lots of potential chart hits out there which could've been huge if they had more promotion (i.e. not every song flops simply because it's bad).

So are we all agreeing now, weeks after I was laughed oot the thread, that it'll be a no. 28 peak?

 

 

Don't forget they do have a physical single :rolleyes: not as if its going to add anything, but they still should be hogging the top 5.

Clarity could have improved on its 29 position but radio 1 were the only radio supporters and they blisted it for 8 weeks (the longest for any blist song this year). If they had have alisted it it could have moved further.

 

If radio plays a song it will chart well!!

 

Where did you get 8 weeks from? I have it as B-listed for 4 weeks :unsure:

No it wouldn't :lol: If being a hit in the US automatically meant a song becomes a hit (which isn't always true anyway, since even songs by British artists like Cher Lloyd and Ellie Goulding that were big in the States didnt do anything here), then what's stopping people buying it right now? It's still out and available for anyone to buy at any time. Why would releasing it now make any difference?

 

You might have a point if it was still physicals that mattered, where it made sense for record labels to hold off releases until some momentum had been built up purely because the major shops would only be willing to stock it for a certain amount of time (and might have stopped stocking them by the time the songs had reached a certain level of exposure), but in the download era where an infinite number of downloads are available forever, there's never anything to lose by releasing it early.

 

1) I don't know about Ellie but Cher's US hit only became big over there AFTER it was released over here - which further proves my point actually. 'Want U Back' could've had far better airplay and therefore far better chart success if it was released/pushed/promoted AFTER the US success.

 

2) Releasing it now, after being a hit in America, would probably mean Capital and Radio 1 would get more on board because the UK is so influenced by America (obviously).

 

3) It's not about the actual release - it's the radio support.

1) I don't know about Ellie but Cher's US hit only became big over there AFTER it was released over here - which further proves my point actually. 'Want U Back' could've had far better airplay and therefore far better chart success if it was released/pushed/promoted AFTER the US success.

 

2) Releasing it now, after being a hit in America, would probably mean Capital and Radio 1 would get more on board because the UK is so influenced by America (obviously).

 

3) It's not about the actual release - it's the radio support.

 

But the point is, there's nothing stopping radio getting on board with it now if they wanted or if there was the demand for it (and again, for all the talk of radio "dictating" what songs are hits and which aren't, most radio programmers pretty much follow the charts and just playlist what songs are selling these days and ignore the songs that aren't selling) -- being officially released now wouldn't give it any benefit that it doesn't already have in terms of getting radioplay. Look at how radio stations started playing the likes of Gotye, Passenger and 'Thrift Shop' months after they were released. And certain radio stations only started playing 'Ho Hey' or 'Radioactive' ages after they were released as well. The point is "release dates" don't actually mean a whole lot in terms of promotion or airplay at this point.

 

(And as an aside, it's really not true at all that every big US hit automatically becomes a hit in the UK -- Maroon 5's One More Night spent the most weeks of any song at #1 in the States in 2012, but that was only a middling hit here, despite being "released" here after being a bonafide smash in the States.)

Edited June 28, 201311 yr by Danny

08. Lost & Not Found (feat. Louis M^ttrs) - Chase & Status

So are we all agreeing now, weeks after I was laughed oot the thread, that it'll be a no. 28 peak?

Who cares if you're right or not? -_-

Sour grapes :P

 

Wanted nearly out the top 10.

Sour grapes :P

 

Wanted nearly out the top 10.

I'm not really a fan of that Saturdays single, so I don't really care where it will chart tbh. Their weakest so far.

 

Sour grapes? Why? :unsure:

1) I don't know about Ellie but Cher's US hit only became big over there AFTER it was released over here - which further proves my point actually. 'Want U Back' could've had far better airplay and therefore far better chart success if it was released/pushed/promoted AFTER the US success.

 

I agree with you. With regards to Ellie's song, it was actually released AGES before it got big in the US lol. The song was promoted as a single in 2010 or 2011 I think, but was big in the US in 2012.

 

It's pretty obvious Capital FM only plays songs that they're told to play by record labels. If Lights was "re-released" late 2012, I think they would've played it because it had been so huge in the US (where it actually did get huge radio support), but Capital FM never, ever picks songs by itself to play. I literally cannot think of one example.

Edited June 28, 201311 yr by Eric_Blob

When Zedd - Clarity is being released? It's f***ing PERFECTION with all the versions... this is so number 1! (already top 10 combined in the US)

Omrimayo of the week?

 

I cant wait. its the most stressful time of the season when a Saturelease occurs.

 

Last time I was so DP if WAU wasn't number one, this time i need a number six! otherwise i dont know what im gonna do :cry:

Look for the nearest bridge?

Edited June 28, 201311 yr by Stackin Them P'S

I agree with you. With regards to Ellie's song, it was actually released AGES before it got big in the US lol. The song was promoted as a single in 2010 or 2011 I think, but was big in the US in 2012.

 

It's pretty obvious Capital FM only plays songs that they're told to play by record labels. If Lights was "re-released" late 2012, I think they would've played it because it had been so huge in the US (where it actually did get huge radio support), but Capital FM never, ever picks songs by itself to play. I literally cannot think of one example.

 

Did they play 'Thrift Shop'? Because Macklemore are on an independent label who wouldn't be able to "tell" Capital to play them.

Edited June 28, 201311 yr by Danny

Omrimayo of the week?

LMAO, out of date a bit :lol:

 

BTW can you please remove either the pic or the video from your signature (Or just make them smaller)? It's too large. Thank you in advance ;)

LMAO, out of date a bit :lol:

 

BTW can you please remove either the pic or the video from your signature (Or just make them smaller)? It's too large. Thank you in advance ;)

Done :)

 

It's a shame about Chase & Status, i think they could have been in the top 5 next week if they released on this Sunday.

 

Am i the only one who thought it was Labrinth who was singing on the song at first?

Edited June 28, 201311 yr by Stackin Them P'S

(And as an aside, it's really not true at all that every big US hit automatically becomes a hit in the UK -- Maroon 5's One More Night spent the most weeks of any song at #1 in the States in 2012, but that was only a middling hit here, despite being "released" here after being a bonafide smash in the States.)

 

'One More Night' getting so many weeks at the top in the USA was absolutely ridiculous. It was never once #1 on Digital Songs, the vast majority of those weeks the digital #1 was 'Gangnam Style' but because radio refused to touch that while it overplayed 'One More Night' to death, 'One More Night' was the country's 'most popular song' for NINE WEEKS. I always moan about the Billboard Hot 100 but that is just beyond ridiculous.

 

(On the other hand 'Payphone' which sold FAR more overall and was a digital #1 had a grand total of zero weeks at #1 on the Hot 100. At least that ended up far, far higher on the year-end chart, where 'One More Night' was at the dizzying heights of number eighteen. I think it's fair to say that even in the USA 'One More Night' was far from one of the biggest hits of the year).

Edited June 28, 201311 yr by LoveBréAgain

Yeah, One More Night was only that successful because US radio wanted to avoid Gangnam Style getting to Number One.

One More Night is definitely their best single behind Moves Like Jagger though :wub:

But the point is, there's nothing stopping radio getting on board with it now if they wanted or if there was the demand for it (and again, for all the talk of radio "dictating" what songs are hits and which aren't, most radio programmers pretty much follow the charts and just playlist what songs are selling these days and ignore the songs that aren't selling) -- being officially released now wouldn't give it any benefit that it doesn't already have in terms of getting radioplay. Look at how radio stations started playing the likes of Gotye, Passenger and 'Thrift Shop' months after they were released. And certain radio stations only started playing 'Ho Hey' or 'Radioactive' ages after they were released as well. The point is "release dates" don't actually mean a whole lot in terms of promotion or airplay at this point.

 

(And as an aside, it's really not true at all that every big US hit automatically becomes a hit in the UK -- Maroon 5's One More Night spent the most weeks of any song at #1 in the States in 2012, but that was only a middling hit here, despite being "released" here after being a bonafide smash in the States.)

 

Okay, look at '#Beautiful' as an example. Obviously I can't prove anything for sure but I highly doubt Capital would've touched the song if it wasn't looking to be a hit in the US. Radio 1 is debatable considering they might have playlisted it simply because of Miguel. Also, I wouldn't compare 'Clarity'/'I Love It' to the likes of 'Radioactive' etc simply because the former songs are Dance-Pop songs while the latter is Rock - radio are more likely to support Rock songs regardless of chart success while it is different for Pop songs.

 

'One More Night' is a poor example because it was a post-album single. The fact that it went top 10 was an achievement in itself. Obviously there are loads of songs that have been hits in the US yet haven't done anything over here but I never claimed every US hit was a hit over here afterwards - I just said a lot.

'One More Night' getting so many weeks at the top in the USA was absolutely ridiculous. It was never once #1 on Digital Songs, the vast majority of those weeks the digital #1 was 'Gangnam Style' but because radio refused to touch that while it overplayed 'One More Night' to death, 'One More Night' was the country's 'most popular song' for NINE WEEKS. I always moan about the Billboard Hot 100 but that is just beyond ridiculous.

 

(On the other hand 'Payphone' which sold FAR more overall and was a digital #1 had a grand total of zero weeks at #1 on the Hot 100. At least that ended up far, far higher on the year-end chart, where 'One More Night' was at the dizzying heights of number eighteen. I think it's fair to say that even in the USA 'One More Night' was far from one of the biggest hits of the year).

Eeek. Makes me thankful that the UK chart is solely based on sales and nothing else :lol:

 

I can't imagine many people can really take that Hot 100 chart seriously tbh (especially after the whole addition of Youtube data/Harlem Shake debacle)

 

Where did you get 8 weeks from? I have it as B-listed for 4 weeks :unsure:

 

I'm pretty sure I had him on for at least 7 weeks coz I remember thinkin radio 1 obv love this song enough to keep them on for this long but not enough to alist them, it pissed me off lol!!