I'll wait for the previews to arrive but I'm 90% sure I'll be ordering this album

Well she could have similar singles success, and Taylor is a better album seller than Katy I think so that's how I think it could be bigger overall, but it'll still be very tough of course! :lol:

 

'Teenage Dream' was one of the most successful campaigns ever in terms of singles. Even if you're talking UK-only, Taylor would need four more 300k+ selling top ten hits (three of them being post-album), and that's without taking into account Katy's re-release which produced two more. She'd also need to sell over a million albums, which she hasn't got near to doing with 'Red' or anything else. As for the US, I can't see anyone touching MJ/Katy's five #1 record but admittedly Taylor has the potential to outsell the album there, i.e. sell three million+.

 

I just think it's a highly ambitious standard to achieve, especially regarding singles!

 

I was just talking more generally worldwide really. 'Teenage Dream' has sold 5.7 million albums worldwide apparently, while 'Red' is on 4.2 million (if I'm to believe Wikipedia). I think '1989' is definitely going to be Taylor's most successful album worldwide, so that would immediately put '1989' into the 5 to 6 million sales region (without a re-release which will have inflated Katy's sales too of course). Then singles-wise, I'd say 'Shake It Off' is getting quite close (although not quite matching it of course) to the success of 'California Gurls' when talking about general worldwide success and then there's no reason why Taylor couldn't have another 4 or 5 singles that go top 10 all over the world - 'I Knew You Were Trouble' and to a lesser extent '22' showed that there's definitely potential for lots of successful Taylor post-album singles from an album but of course she ran out of pop singles to release from 'Red' which she'll have no problem with on '1989'. Of course it'll be nearly impossible to match the record of 5 #1s from an album, but that's US-specific whereas I was just referring to general worldwide success.

 

Of course it's very ambitious but I think Taylor could get very close to the success of it, if not matching it. We can hope anyway! ^_^

I was just talking more generally worldwide really. 'Teenage Dream' has sold 5.7 million albums worldwide apparently, while 'Red' is on 4.2 million (if I'm to believe Wikipedia). I think '1989' is definitely going to be Taylor's most successful album worldwide, so that would immediately put '1989' into the 5 to 6 million sales region (without a re-release which will have inflated Katy's sales too of course). Then singles-wise, I'd say 'Shake It Off' is getting quite close (although not quite matching it of course) to the success of 'California Gurls' when talking about general worldwide success and then there's no reason why Taylor couldn't have another 4 or 5 singles that go top 10 all over the world - 'I Knew You Were Trouble' and to a lesser extent '22' showed that there's definitely potential for lots of successful Taylor post-album singles from an album but of course she ran out of pop singles to release from 'Red' which she'll have no problem with on '1989'. Of course it'll be nearly impossible to match the record of 5 #1s from an album, but that's US-specific whereas I was just referring to general worldwide success.

 

Of course it's very ambitious but I think Taylor could get very close to the success of it, if not matching it. We can hope anyway! ^_^

 

You're assuming there that her US sales won't drop at all despite her completely abandoning her country roots for the first time.

 

As for the rest, I think you're being very idealistic and optimistic about post-album singles but we'll have to agree to disagree I suppose!

You're assuming there that her US sales won't drop at all despite her completely abandoning her country roots for the first time.

 

As for the rest, I think you're being very idealistic and optimistic about post-album singles but we'll have to agree to disagree I suppose!

Out Of The Woods is I think Taylor's most succesful promo single yet and her album is very high on the pre-orders around the world.

She'll most likely break the 1 million barrier and continue selling

Incredible iTunes positions worldwide (not including second versions):

 

Out Of The Woods

#1 United States

#1 Argentina

#1 Armenia

#1 Australia

#1 Austria

#1 Bolivia

#1 Brazil

#1 Brunei Darussalam

#1 Bulgaria

#1 Cambodia

#1 Canada

#1 Colombia

#1 Costa Rica

#1 Cyprus

#1 Czech Republic

#1 Denmark

#1 Dominican Republic

#1 Ecuador

#1 Egypt

#1 El Salvador

#1 Estonia

#1 Finland

#1 Greece

#1 Guatemala

#1 Honduras

#1 Hong Kong

#1 Hungary

#1 India

#1 Indonesia

#1 Ireland

#1 Israel

#1 Japan

#1 Kazakhstan

#1 Laos

#1 Lebanon

#1 Luxembourg

#1 Macau

#1 Malaysia

#1 Mexico

#1 Mozambique

#1 Namibia

#1 New Zealand

#1 Nicaragua

#1 Norway

#1 Panama

#1 Papua New Guinea

#1 Paraguay

#1 Peru

#1 Philippines

#1 Poland

#1 Portugal

#1 Saudi Arabia

#1 Singapore

#1 Slovakia

#1 Slovenia

#1 South Africa

#1 Spain

#1 Sri Lanka

#1 Sweden

#1 Taiwan

#1 Thailand

#1 Trinidad and Tobago

#1 Turkey

#1 United Arab Emirates

#1 Venezuela

#1 Vietnam

#2 Belgium

#2 Italy

#2 Latvia

#2 Malta

#2 Netherlands

#2 Nigeria

#2 Switzerland

#3 Azerbaijan

#3 Belarus

#3 Cayman Islands

#3 France

#3 Germany

#4 Kyrgyzstan

#5 Russia

#6 Romania

#14 Ukraine

#19 Jordan

#27 Botswana

#41 Chile

#42 Oman

#65 The Bahamas

#106 Qatar

qatar not getting it are they

Out Of The Woods is less abysmal than Shake It Off, but still pretty awful.

Taylor has been amazing once again regarding communication with fans and wrote a special message on her Tumblr page for UK fans about why we haven't been able to get 'Out of the Woods' yet:

 

To all my wonderful UK fans,

 

I realize that you are not yet able to get ‘Out Of The Woods’ due to a new strategy my record label is working on in the UK. I’ve never been one to hold my music back from any of you so I will be watching closely to see if this is ultimately a better experience for you, the fans.

 

My good friend Ed Sheeran utilized the same strategy with ‘One’ in the UK and he seemed very happy with the feedback from his fans.

 

But, ultimately, it’s down to you. Let me know.

 

Peace out.

Taylor/Natalie/Becky

 

Interesting!

 

The "same strategy" as Ed used with 'One' is the interesting bit. So that means her label wants 'Out of the Woods' to be the first instant grat (and therefore be eligible to chart), so could the plan be to wait until Sunday, remove 'Shake It Off' as an instant grat (and put it up as a standalone single) and then make 'Out of the Woods' the only instant grat from the album? That's all I can think of if they want to use the same strategy as Ed did with 'One'.

I know she has no say over it but I don't see how holding music back can ever be a good strategy/experience for the fans? What do they gain from waiting for ages for a song to be released, the joy of seeing it chart a few places higher - do more than 1% of an act's fanbase even care where an album track/instant grat charts? :lol:

 

I long for a time when we don't have to wait weeks or more often months after EVERY other country in the world to get hold of certain songs.[/steve201stylerantover]

'Out Of The Woods' is absolutely brilliant! Quite possibly my favourite of hers already! If this is supposed to be the song that best represents the album... consider me as a new STAN! FUUUUUCK. SO GOOD.

It sounds a bit like her record label suggested it and Taylor has reluctantly agreed, or is happy to try something different for a change (as we know she hasn't held anything back since 'We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together' which was only held back a few days of course), but is very prepared to cancel the change if her fans aren't happy. I believe Taylor when she says she'll be watching closely to make sure us fans are happy, although I do agree that it does seem like there isn't going to be any sort of benefit. We'll see!

I am so stuck whether to buy the album on ITunes or physical copy

The problem with ITunes is I love physical copy albums and I want the booklet and messages that Taylor puts in albums and the problem with physical copy is that it will probably only be the standard version and not deluxe.

 

Should I get ITunes now + physical for Christmas? Should I just get physical? Should I just get ITunes? Should I just get physical and buy the deluxe songs I like on ITunes?

I am so stuck :(

I can see stores stocking both the standard and deluxe versions of her album (especially with it being Taylor). Unless you're talking strictly supermarkets (who rarely (if ever) stock deluxe versions of any album.) They should just make it the deluxe version only for the UK fans, like Kelly C did for 'Stronger'!

I always favour physical copies over digital copies, I've only ever bought 1 or 2 full-length albums digitally. And like you say, Taylor physical copies are special regarding the booklet messages and of course this time we get the special set of 13 photo prints!

 

Is there a reason you can't get the deluxe physical album, is it the extra cost?

I'm sure most artists release both a standard and deluxe physical copy these days too? Could you not purchase the deluxe CD? (Or is Taylor not releasing the deluxe as a CD?)

I can see stores stocking both the standard and deluxe versions of her album (especially with it being Taylor). Unless you're talking strictly supermarkets (who rarely (if ever) stock deluxe versions of any album.) They should just make it the deluxe version only for the UK fans, like Kelly C did for 'Stronger'!

 

 

I always favour physical copies over digital copies, I've only ever bought 1 or 2 full-length albums digitally. And like you say, Taylor physical copies are special regarding the booklet messages and of course this time we get the special set of 13 photo prints!

 

Is there a reason you can't get the deluxe physical album, is it the extra cost?

 

When I want to buy an album on release, I go to my nearest Sainsburys as my HMV half an hour away closed last year. They literally never have the deluxe copies but I think I might go and check there just in case and if not i'll find something somewhere eventually

When I want to buy an album on release, I go to my nearest Sainsburys as my HMV half an hour away closed last year. They literally never have the deluxe copies but I think I might go and check there just in case and if not i'll find something somewhere eventually

 

Ah right I see your problem as like Jonjo says, only HMV seem to stock deluxe copies. There's the option of buying the deluxe on Amazon, but of course I don't know if that's a possibility for you. Otherwise maybe the best bet could be too get the standard physical (so you get the booklet and the photo prints) and then buy the extra tracks from iTunes but that could become quite expensive! Three of them are voice memos though of course so they might not be essential to download, so it might not work out too expensive.

I would possibly suggest ordering it online from somewhere. Not only do you get the deluxe CD, but more often than not, they ship it out early and you end up getting it the Friday or Saturday before release! (Happened a fair amount of times for me!) They won't charge you for the CD until they have shipped it out to you, either! :D

Taylor will be posting a lyric from all 13 tracks over the next 13 days and she has just revealed the first!

 

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Track 1 #1989lyrics

 

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