We have had a review of our framework which is coming in with immediate effect. Changes are highlighted in colour.

 

 

Minor/Yellow (3 points)

• The song has moderate personal chart support from within it's likely fan base. (2-3 personal charts of BJSC participants)
• Artist has been recycled and previously qualified for the final.
• Song or artist has appeared in Unknown Pleasures.
• Song has a thread with more than 15 replies in a genre forum.
• Song is in the top40 of the artists 'home' nation.

Medium/Orange (7 points)

• The song or artist has performed significantly well in another contest on the forum, eg. Unknown Pleasures, Nuggets etc. (Top half of the leaderboard in the contest concerned)
• The song is by a MALE artist, or associated act with an Artist Forum on Buzzjack.
• Has strong personal chart support in it's genre fan-base and has 'crossed over'. (4-6 personal charts)
• The artist has had a top40 UK album in the past 12 months.
• Has presence on one of the big three blogs, the trifecta of Popjustice, Scandipop or Pitchfork. An additional 3 points will be allocated to songs that have appeared on any two of these three blogs
• The song is a similar sounding cover version or contains a heavily used sample of a previous BJSC entry.
• Artist has come top10 previously in BJSC
• Song has a thread of more than 40 replies in a genre forum
• Song is currently in the chart of a Scandinavian nation
• The song/artist has charted, within the past 12 months, in one of the following nations: United States, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, France & Germany
• 2 or more people attempted to confirm the song.
• The artist has previously been entered two times since 2011.

Serious/Red (12 points)

• Has significant BJSC Personal Chart presence//The song is in the Multichart during the week/s in which the confirmation process is open. (7 or more personal charts)
• The song is a fresh leak or forthcoming single by an artist with a significant following on Buzzjack.
• The song has received substantial radio, internet, TV, or print media exposure.
• The song is on a current Radio 1 playlist (any playlist published just prior to or during the confirmation period)
• The artist/song is currently or has recently (within the last 12 months) been in the UK Top 40 Singles Chart.
• Has a review on one or more of the trifecta (Scandipop/Popjustice/Pitchfork) with Hyperbole set to 11.
• Artist has multiple top10's, or a top5 finish to their name
• Song and/or artist has (recently) finished top5 in UP.
• Song has more than 75 replies in a genre forum thread
• The song is by a FEMALE artist, or associated act with an Artist Forum on Buzzjack.
• The song has gone top5, within the past 6 months, in one of the following nations: Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, France, Germany, South Korea, and Japan.
• Song is in the Hot 100 currently
• More than 5 people attempted to enter the song.
• The song or artist charted in the Top 40 in the UK or USA pre-2000. (This applies to songs like TLC's 'Creep' and Dolly Parton's 'Jolene' or any other 'classics'. Any other current or previously charted song is covered by other veto penalties in this framework)
• The artist has previously been entered three times since 2011.

Auto-veto/Black (25 points)

• Is a straight cover of a previous BJSC entry.
• Is currently in the UK Top20.
• Has presence on all of the trifecta. (Scandipop, Popjustice and Pitchfork)
• Is a former ESC entry.
• Is currently in a national final for ESC selection.
• Is a previous BJSC entry.
• Artist was in the previous month's top 3.
• Song has more than 100 replies in a genre forum thread.
• Song is from the current album campaign (single, album track, b-side or leak) of one of the very popular AF artist's (Sugababes/MKS, Lady GaGa, Katy Perry, Adele, The Saturdays, Leona Lewis)
• The artist has previously been entered four times since 2011.

An entry to the Buzzjack Song Contest WILL be vetoed if it scores 22 points or more. Songs scoring 14 points or more will be discussed for potential vetoing.

 

 

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It's mainly minor tweaks and a couple of additions. Artists will be permanently banned from BJSC once they've been entered 7 times, but other updates like that will appear in the updated rules which should follow over the next week. Whenever I get about three hours to write the new threads

 

 

Most importantly, the veto threshold has now been LOWERED to 22 Veto Points. Songs scoring 14 points will now be discussed for potential veto. This is also a lower target. We hope everyone is happy with the changes we have made, but feel free to let us know otherwise! ^_^

Hopefully this takes place this contest onwards!

 

Must admit that i'm loving the new veto framework!

Some good changes here! (even if it means my entry now scores 12 veto points :( )

i'm trying to have a much more inspired year, so lets hope that i wont be in violation of too many of these.

Brilliant. :(

 

According to this my entry has 22 points, awaiting my PM. Unless they don't stack (i.e. similar rules (e.g. an UP song finishing top 5 obviously performed significantly well so is there a need for 19 points instead of 12?)).

They don't stack, you get the points of the highest related flag you hit. So an artist who has had a top 5 would only get 12 points for recycling and not the extra ten points that come with hitting the related yellow and orange flags.

Oops, my entry (just barely) meets one of the 7-point 'offences' now. 2 uninspired ~

They don't stack, you get the points of the highest related flag you hit. So an artist who has had a top 5 would only get 12 points for recycling and not the extra ten points that come with hitting the related yellow and orange flags.

 

Oh, happy days! Cheers for clearing that up.

Some good changes here! (even if it means my entry now scores 12 veto points :( )

Wait I just realised my confirmed artist's top 40 single(s) were not pre-2000. So I have no veto points :D

Wait I just realised my confirmed artist's top 40 single(s) were not pre-2000. So I have no veto points :D

You would not have any veto points even if that artist had top 40 singles prior to 2000. This rule only applies to ancient songs like Jolene, as it's actually stated.

Could the 3-point category for personal chart support be changed to 2-3 personal charts? Because if you get veto points for it being in one chart then you can only get 0 veto points by not charting your own entry until after the contest :drama: (If you have a personal chart that is).

Could the 3-point category for personal chart support be changed to 2-3 personal charts? Because if you get veto points for it being in one chart then you can only get 0 veto points by not charting your own entry until after the contest :drama: (If you have a personal chart that is).

 

Would they not discount your own chart anyway though?

Would they not discount your own chart anyway though?

 

They are only given a list of songs, so they wouldn't know who submitted what (although it only being in one personal chart is probably a good clue).

If your entry is getting three points and only three points then you are in absolutely no danger of a veto. Given that the only people who ever see it are the moderators the scores given are absolutely irrelevant for entries below 14 points and only relevant for those over 14 points in the event of a veto.

And yes, we have no participant information so it's impossible for us to discount just one personal chart because while it could be the participant, it might not be. We're not psychic. It is reasonable to say that the 1 personal chart it is in is not the same person that entered it and it thus gives an indication of the level of knowledge on buzzjack.

i still think it being in ONE personal chart really shouldn't qualify for veto points

shan't chart my entries until after the semis go up then~

Yeah I think it's silly cause people could end up pushing their own entry over 14 or 22 veto points just by charting it themselves, no? :unsure:

3 points doesn't actually make much of a difference in the slightest. If 3 points sends it over 22 points the chances of it getting vetoed anyway are around 99.99% As for just being pushed over 14 points, it'll need to have had a 12 pointer or a 7 and 2 three pointers which would have put it on our radar regardless. (We stated in the original framework that anything getting a 12 we would look at even if it didn't hit the threshold.)

 

If you're so concerned about your chart (which we can't tell anyway) putting a song over the 22 point limit; it's getting axed regardless of those 3 little points.

 

If you're concerned about your chart putting over 14 points then we will have probably already looked at it and it's very likely to be safe (chance of veto ~5-15%)

Well if, say, 20 points is 99.9999% veto situation then why is the official barrier still 22 points then?

 

From now on (if I am not lazy enough to post my chart which I 70% of the time am) I shall probably be disguising the entry in the chart. Oops