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Well if he did say 14 instead of 13, that'd be the Netherlands and they are the biggest charters on iTunes across the world so I doubt they would have stole many of Suzy's votes by mistake. But by all means, if true then Portugal should complain; especially if she finished in 11th/12th place by 1-2 points.

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The Netherlands have moved into 2nd now! Greece and Austria's odds are already shortening quickly so I wouldn't be surprised to see them join the leading group of 6 (Sweden, The Netherlands, Armenia, Ukraine, UK and Hungary) after tonight's semi final.
I'm interested to see how the odds for semi 2 finalists will change after tonight
I love how relevant the Dutch have become again in the last two years. Their Eurovision success reflects their general global chart success of late. In fact they've probably overtaken Sweden as the third biggest international hit producers after the US and UK :o
Dayum! Austria has shot up to #4 in the odds at 10/1

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Go Conchita, she has to come Top 10 at least at the final!

Austria up to 4th favourite on oddschecker, UK down to 6th!

 

Sanna going into Saturday as the favourite *.*

Wow! Austria and The Netherlands in the top three favourites. What's happening!

 

I do like Rise Like A Phoenix but looking purely at the song it would be my least favourite winner since Believe. I can see why it's being tipped for the top though, it's a strong dramatic ballad with jury appeal and Conchita will obviously have major televote love.

 

Not sure it would be much of a hit single but then Running Scared wasn't either.

Rise Like A Phoenix felt like such a moment tonight and definitely had the feelings of a winner, if she's in the second half, I think she could definitely do this.
I really don't think it can. There are enough nations out there that will give it nothing. I do think it will be easily top 10, probably top 5, but unlikely to be top 3.

Armenia seem to be falling a place a day in the odds :lol: Been a long time since there were so manys songs bunched up close together at the top of the odds!

 

Even in 2011 Sognu was a clear favourite through to the final (even though it completely bombed in the end!)

Sweden and Armenia dropped immediately after the running order was announced - Improvements for Molly :cheer:

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Austria up to 4th favourite on oddschecker, UK down to 6th!

 

Sanna going into Saturday as the favourite *.*

Thank God I betted before her odds fell so much! Conchita really reminded me of Adele 'Skyfall' for some bizarre reason! It really felt like a winner! :o I really disregarded the song before tonight (I genuinely only thought it'd do so well down to it being a woman with a beard - which is why my mate betted on her!) as it didn't really appeal to me before, but seeing it performed so brilliantly, I was impressed and really wasn't surprised to see the odds slash the way they did.

 

Rise Like A Phoenix felt like such a moment tonight and definitely had the feelings of a winner, if she's in the second half, I think she could definitely do this.
Completely agreed!

 

Also, lets not forget, the UK haven't had a Semi-final performance, therefore, very little boost on iTunes/harder to tell how well it'll do! Had it been an interval act, I believe it would have slayed iTunes all over Europe. Wasn't it one of the biggest cherry picks going into the competition, without major promo? :unsure: I still believe we have a much better chance than what the odds suggest!

Molly's odds today are disappointing - down to 12/1.

Re Austria - last night was a 'moment' but aside to her message about being who you want to be; the song isn't really that great.

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I think the bookies just genuinely don't have a clue has to who's going to win hence why the odds have been up and down all week for a lot of countries.
Molly's odds today are disappointing - down to 12/1.

Re Austria - last night was a 'moment' but aside to her message about being who you want to be; the song isn't really that great.

 

every song was a moment, but then you have better moments than others.

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