October 25, 201410 yr I understand Jake's point tbh. There's a sense of gentleman's etiquette to these things. And where's the "gentleman's etiquette" in jake's post pre-edit? Let's get a bit of perspective here. The etiquette of publicly naming, shaming and swearing at someone online is displaying slightly less manners than confirming a song that another has talked about before for me.
October 25, 201410 yr And where's the "gentleman's etiquette" in jake's post pre-edit? Let's get a bit of perspective here. The etiquette of publicly naming, shaming and swearing at someone online is displaying slightly less manners than confirming a song that another has talked about before for me. I didn't see Jake's post pre-edit, nor do I think I was condoning the manner in which he made his point if it was offensive. His behaviour is an entirely different issue to whether he was raising a valid point or not.
October 25, 201410 yr Agreed. Anyway, it's understandable to be a bit cheesed off. A bit like when I was included in the rate despite SPECIFICALLY asking not be included.
October 25, 201410 yr I didn't see Jake's post pre-edit, nor do I think I was condoning the manner in which he made his point if it was offensive. His behaviour is an entirely different issue to whether he was raising a valid point or not. Well even post-edit i can't defend it. Just thought it was odd to talk about Mikey's etiquette in this context when no one knows if he even viewed that thread, found the song before Jake did and planned to send it then, and was then called out in the way in which he was here. Everyone seems to be claiming that he's done this heinous sneaky action with no actual evidence to back it up, which if i was Mikey would make me feel pretty shit. Jake raises an interestingish point but it'll forever be impossible to tell if people discovered the song through a thread on buzzjack or if they had known about it before so it's useless making a big deal when someone else sends it (and then there's the way in which he did it, which as you rightly said is a different issue).
October 25, 201410 yr It's little wonder people don't post threads for new music if people then underhandly take them from you and pass them off as their own discovery. Just to be 100% clear on this... it's this bit of Jake's post that I think is a valid point, I do think everyone holds back posting threads and thus damage forum activity because they are worried someone else will "steal" it and thus the thread starter won't get their entry. The gentleman's etiquette bit I mentioned was possibly a little (unintentionally) harsh on Mikey reading it back, I didn't mean to imply he definitely HAD stolen an entry by those means as such, more that I think there is a certain unwritten fairness in checking whether there is a thread or not before submitting. It's not foolproof though obviously. (edit... thinking it through further, I guess the whole checking for threads thing actually would just result in posters desperately trying to start the threads on every decent new track just so they could have first shot at it here. Maybe not such a great thing after all!) Edited October 25, 201410 yr by مدهش*
October 25, 201410 yr Having previously been on the end of one of Jake's rants it is a little disheartening and just made me think "just how seriously do you take this?!". If I posted a song that I was intending to send to this or one of the other contests on here and someone else sent it first as a result of me posting it, I really wouldn't care. If anything I'd be happy that people have taken notice of something I've posted and feel the song is good enough to want to share wider. When I wasn't first to 'Sunlight' the other month (a song I adored and really wanted to send) I just took it as essentially having two entries in the contest. BJSC should be a bit of fun and reading stuff like this makes me think people should lighten up a bit!
October 25, 201410 yr By the way, someone stole my entry too. And I didn't even post about it so they stole it directly from my brain. :(
October 25, 201410 yr YAY usfland is back! Pavel cheated. John you hoe. at least you did your legs :) By the way, someone stole my entry too. And I didn't even post about it so they stole it directly from my brain. :( mikey, reading people's minds is a clear breach of bjsc gentleman's etiquette :angry:
October 25, 201410 yr And where's the "gentleman's etiquette" in jake's post pre-edit? Let's get a bit of perspective here. The etiquette of publicly naming, shaming and swearing at someone online is displaying slightly less manners than confirming a song that another has talked about before for me. look not everyone deals with things as passively as you do, i'm more direct and ultimately confrontational. i have posted with mikey on forums for over a decade now, so i feel i know him well enough and how he goes about bjsc, could i ultimately be wrong? yes of course but i use my best judgement and acumen before deciding what decision to come to. i have noticed he's gone for entries posted by others in indie before and have never seen him enter something like this/from the blogs where the song in question was posted. on that basis of using my brain i called him. should i have sworn? perhaps not. is that how i felt at the time though? absolutely. i'm not some eternally rude, bulldozer of a person, i'm very openly expressive, sometimes wrong but a lot of the time right and i trust my judgement.
October 25, 201410 yr Two of my three options are by acts that have been sent once before and DNQ'd...not a promising start but I guess it worked for Goldfish! Will confirm something before the end of the weekend, I can't imagine I'll be battling anybody for any of my potentials.
October 25, 201410 yr confirmed while I was tipsy so don't actually remember what I sent lolol here's to finding out when you guys do!
October 25, 201410 yr confirmed while I was tipsy so don't actually remember what I sent lolol here's to finding out when you guys do! cheryl then? xxxxx
October 25, 201410 yr confirmed while I was tipsy so don't actually remember what I sent lolol here's to finding out when you guys do! whatever your gf told you to send?
October 25, 201410 yr Researching these now and loving a good few already. I don't stand a chance eeeek.
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